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Please dont hate me for what im about to say,my only witness is a guy by the name of kenneth Arnold

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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 03:15 AM
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I don't particularly choose the UFO forums or any other specific one for that matter. I've seen four UFOs in my life, two of them with friends. I've never really believed in UFOs until I actually saw one for the first time back when I was about 15. I don't really theorize about them I just accept the fact that they are there. It's a crazy universe we live in and it's something interesting to think about. If you're interested in my personal experiences I can elaborate if you want me to.




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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by elfulanozutan0
reply to post by Immortalgemini527
 


I don't particularly choose the UFO forums or any other specific one for that matter. I've seen four UFOs in my life, two of them with friends. I've never really believed in UFOs until I actually saw one for the first time back when I was about 15. I don't really theorize about them I just accept the fact that they are there. It's a crazy universe we live in and it's something interesting to think about. If you're interested in my personal experiences I can elaborate if you want me to.

By all means please,go ahead.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 03:29 AM
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The first one I saw I was at my friends house down the street from mine. It was cloudy and the moon was out. She and I were looking at the sky when we saw something behind the clouds. It was big, had lights on the outline of it, moved slow and was silent. We watched it for about 6 minutes before we couldn't see it anymore.

The next one I was in Reno the next year and it was during the day. I was outside of a casino looking at the Sierra Nevada Mountains when a shine caught my eye. There was this metallic looking object with the sun reflecting off of it. It was swaying from left to right gradually getting higher and higher into the sky until it was out of my perception.

About two years later my friend and I were driving towards my other friends apartment just south east of my house. When going south on a main street we noticed two bright lights flying in a line formation with each other. They were moving slower than airplanes typically move and I lived about 30 minutes from DFW airport. When we got to my friends apartment we looked to the West down the highway and saw the two lights in the same formation in the town west of mine. My friend and I rushed into my friends apartment and said "You won't believe what we just saw" my friend who lived and our other friend saw the objects as well and said the same thing to us. It was pretty weird.

The last one was the beginning of this year, I was at my aunts house. She lives in a hilly part of town that looks over cities west of ours. I went onto the upstairs balcony for a smoke when I noticed a bright orange light just appear in the sky in the west. It looked like it was moving towards my direction (not directed at me of course) and then the light just faded away and the object was gone.

I'm not saying they are all extraterrestrial UFOs, I think it is a possibility but I just don't know, I haven't seen human aircrafts like the ones I've seen so who knows. I KNOW there is other life in the universe so the idea of them coming here doesn't really effect me to much. I won't be one of the religious people that will be culturally shattered if a UFO landed on the White House lawn. (not saying it will, just using it as an example)



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by elfulanozutan0
reply to post by Immortalgemini527
 


The first one I saw I was at my friends house down the street from mine. It was cloudy and the moon was out. She and I were looking at the sky when we saw something behind the clouds. It was big, had lights on the outline of it, moved slow and was silent. We watched it for about 6 minutes before we couldn't see it anymore.

The next one I was in Reno the next year and it was during the day. I was outside of a casino looking at the Sierra Nevada Mountains when a shine caught my eye. There was this metallic looking object with the sun reflecting off of it. It was swaying from left to right gradually getting higher and higher into the sky until it was out of my perception.

About two years later my friend and I were driving towards my other friends apartment just south east of my house. When going south on a main street we noticed two bright lights flying in a line formation with each other. They were moving slower than airplanes typically move and I lived about 30 minutes from DFW airport. When we got to my friends apartment we looked to the West down the highway and saw the two lights in the same formation in the town west of mine. My friend and I rushed into my friends apartment and said "You won't believe what we just saw" my friend who lived and our other friend saw the objects as well and said the same thing to us. It was pretty weird.

The last one was the beginning of this year, I was at my aunts house. She lives in a hilly part of town that looks over cities west of ours. I went onto the upstairs balcony for a smoke when I noticed a bright orange light just appear in the sky in the west. It looked like it was moving towards my direction (not directed at me of course) and then the light just faded away and the object was gone.

I'm not saying they are all extraterrestrial UFOs, I think it is a possibility but I just don't know, I haven't seen human aircrafts like the ones I've seen so who knows. I KNOW there is other life in the universe so the idea of them coming here doesn't really effect me to much. I won't be one of the religious people that will be culturally shattered if a UFO landed on the White House lawn. (not saying it will, just using it as an example)


Have u ever been abuducted it seems that you might be transmitting some frequencie or something ?



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:16 AM
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Haha. No. I've never been abducted. I don't believe in the abduction theories. I think that the abduction phenomena is due to sleep paralysis. When you're going to sleep you are drifting between consciousness and R.E.M. sleep. Sometimes you will become aware between these levels of consciousness or awareness, at the point where you do not control your body but you're awake. This is when I believe people experience the alien abduction phenomena also if you have ever heard of the occurring of being in sleep paralysis and seeing a shady figure above your bed and you can't move, as well as others. I have never had these events happen to me but I have heard of it happening to other people of course. I caught myself in between the dream and aware states and haven't been able to move my body. But it has only happened once or twice and I knew what it was when it was happening so I wasn't freaking out. It is weird though, I have to admit.

My belief of the abduction phenomena being related to sleep paralysis is from a book called '___': The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman. He obtained permission from the DEA and FDA to give people '___' (a naturally occurring chemical in nature) which is released from your Pineal Gland while in R E M sleep and creates dreams. When his subjects were injected with '___' multiple reoccurring dreams occurred without the subjects being exposed to each other at any point during the tests. One of these reoccurring "dreams" was the alien abduction phenomena in multiple subjects, as well as near death phenomena. So I think that alien abductions are from your mind. I don't know why it happens or what it means because it has never happened to me or anyone I personally know. I highly recommend reading the book VERY interesting and gets you thinking, kind of like the biology of the spirit.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 04:28 AM
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Wow your post left me breathless... where to start.

Ok for one- Alien abductions ARE real. Some people do experience sleep paralysis and encounter demons and other entities in the earthbound realm. That is also real. '___'- child, dont preach about what you dont understand. Ever take straight '___'? No? Well then- let me tell you, you physically leave your body- your spirit literally leaves your body like when you die- and you go to another dimension literally- phydsically- spiritually. '___' has nothing what so ever to do with alien abductions. I am an alien abductee, and as god as my witness I sware to the fact of both of these statements. Do yourself and your consiousness a favor and expand your self awareness and ignorance!



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by ofhumandescent
You are lucky they didn't beam you up.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a9c88426fa74.jpg[/atsimg]



How does the OP know they didn't? The majority of times people don't realise they have been abducted until they are drawn to sites like this one, where people start sharing memories.

If the event is real then I would say there is a more than above average chance of the OP being abducted without his/her knowledge consciously.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 06:37 AM
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Is that image the TR3B??

It might not be the size of a football field,but the TR3B is ours from what i understand.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527


Ill tell u a secret or atleast riddle it for u.
have u ever just looked in a direction and just started starring ,or have u ever just walked out the door and looked up,or have u ever just got up and looked out the window for nothing,its a meaning my friend.



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The reason I asked all those things is because I can relate to your situation in one way, I too have seen a triangle very close and can relate to the awe of what you have seen but there are lots of people who create their fantasy and believe they have seen something and embellished it.

So I ask lots of questions..

From what you say you have described the experience spot on, the night I saw mine with my wife was an imprint on my old memory, it's there as if I saw it yesterday. I have to say I did not get the psychic powers you seem to have got at the time, while I looked at the bottom of this huge craft and at what you describe as it's engines, at no time did I get any feelings of how this thing could do what it was doing.

I was just awestruck at how something so so big could move so slowly and make no noise.

The size of this thing was amazing, I could open a newspaper at arms length while pointing it towards the craft and I would still have been able to see the craft on all sides.




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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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Please explain about your abduction experience I would love to hear about itfrom someone who has personally experienced. As for '___' don't automatically assume that I haven't done my fair share of research on the subject. You should raise your awareness and stop being ignorant towards other people. I've smoked '___' and have left my body. I'm convinced it isthe spirit molecule. I don openly talk about because to many people look at it as just a drug. I could go on about what I have seen in the Dream realm but this isn't the place for that.

As for alien abductions and '___' read the book and you will see what I'm talking about. Multiple subjects experienced the abduction phenomena while on '___'. I personaly know someone as well who got abducted while on '___'. I didn't mention it because I don't want to come off as condoning drug use but since you had to assume I haven't done my research on the subject I have to clarify for you.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by xynephadyn
Some people do experience sleep paralysis and encounter demons and other entities in the earthbound realm. That is also real.


Sleep paralysis is a sleep disorder; it has nothing to do with demons or spirits. That is ignorant superstition. In your words...


Originally posted by xynephadyn
child, dont preach about what you dont understand.



Originally posted by xynephadyn
Ever take straight '___'? No? Well then- let me tell you, you physically leave your body- your spirit literally leaves your body like when you die- and you go to another dimension literally- phydsically- spiritually.


Again, superstitious, ignorant nonsense. '___' is a psychotropic drug, it affects your brain chemistry and causes hallucination.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 03:08 PM
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That's not nonsense.

When you die your body pumps out '___' and you do in fact hallucinate.


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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 05:33 PM
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And you know this how??
Did you die and experience this or did you read it from a book written from someone who has never died??
I am confused as to how this is a fact,as you have stated in your post.

You might hallucinate when living but how do you know about death??


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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 05:43 PM
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It happens within a few minutes BEFORE your brain completely shuts down.

When your dead, you ARE dead and begin to rot.

It's at the moment of death. '___' bends all time.

That moment is not a moment in your mind.

Nothing happens after everything already begins to decompose.

Rick Strassman actually did the studies, it's not superstition or nonsense.


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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 06:19 PM
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It's true, dmt is released when youre born and when you die, it's be done by blood tests and huger levels of dmt are found when you're born and
you die



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by MrsBlonde

anyway as far as I'm concerned there are no UFOs they're Corporate Dominion State Craft,TPTB to ATSers



I often have those thoughts, tbh I'm of the many and all explanations school of thought re ufos and sightings of them.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 07:17 PM
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These guys obviously have never done their research.

It's been scientifically proven.

It's also the most illegal substance on the planet.

There is a reason for this.


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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 09:51 PM
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I completely agree. Sometimes there are too many coincidences to be coincidences and when you are presented with not only the history it has played but Dr. Strassman's work and some others, your brain begins to rationalize what it is. Some people on the other hand, can't fathom a concept of like that. It's the biology of spirit and I find it funny that religious people preach about the soul and afterlife but when confronted with this evidence they're usually the first to dismiss it as nonsense because it isn't taught in their doctrine, or at least their interpretation of their doctrine.



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by Thepreye

Originally posted by MrsBlonde

anyway as far as I'm concerned there are no UFOs they're Corporate Dominion State Craft,TPTB to ATSers



I often have those thoughts, tbh I'm of the many and all explanations school of thought re ufos and sightings of them.


Thanks Thepreye, I honestly don't say that to be a kill joy just saying if they weren't ours TPTB would be be as mystified by them as we are, and they clearly aren't
I know they didn't get those Nazi scientists over here for nothing and I thought the ones I saw were 'vintage' if that makes any sense. Anyway I've seen so many ,always different (no triangles ) in broad daylight with others and at night with others and alone ,I'm just bored of them I guess,I'm pretty convinced that if they were ETs that somebody in the higher levels of military intelligence(used in the oxymoronic sense)would have freaked out over it by now.

I do think we have been visited by ETs in the past though but that's another story
Peace Out



posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by elfulanozutan0
Haha. No. I've never been abducted. I don't believe in the abduction theories. I think that the abduction phenomena is due to sleep paralysis. When you're going to sleep you are drifting between consciousness and R.E.M. sleep. Sometimes you will become aware between these levels of consciousness or awareness, at the point where you do not control your body but you're awake. This is when I believe people experience the alien abduction phenomena also if you have ever heard of the occurring of being in sleep paralysis and seeing a shady figure above your bed and you can't move, as well as others. I have never had these events happen to me but I have heard of it happening to other people of course. I caught myself in between the dream and aware states and haven't been able to move my body. But it has only happened once or twice and I knew what it was when it was happening so I wasn't freaking out. It is weird though, I have to admit.

My belief of the abduction phenomena being related to sleep paralysis is from a book called '___': The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman. He obtained permission from the DEA and FDA to give people '___' (a naturally occurring chemical in nature) which is released from your Pineal Gland while in R E M sleep and creates dreams. When his subjects were injected with '___' multiple reoccurring dreams occurred without the subjects being exposed to each other at any point during the tests. One of these reoccurring "dreams" was the alien abduction phenomena in multiple subjects, as well as near death phenomena. So I think that alien abductions are from your mind. I don't know why it happens or what it means because it has never happened to me or anyone I personally know. I highly recommend reading the book VERY interesting and gets you thinking, kind of like the biology of the spirit.


I caught myself in between the dream and aware states and haven't been able to move my body.

I hate those dreams,lol
speaking of dreams, boy! found out the hard way 2 years ago visiting a friend in Alaska that the 2 dreams i had that scared the hell out me was coming from...

So im in Alaska with my friend ,she has a cabin bed and breakfast spot i some times visit ,she has a boat ride as well to go to a spot where u can see dolphins whales and just nature period.
On this particular night one of her waiters didn’t show up, she asked me for help.

( before this happened I had a dream the following day of me)…[I swear to god this was one of the most hated dreams I have ever had as far as one of those suffocating dreams]

So i am RUNNING FROM THESE BLOODY BUBBLES ! And every time the bubbles would catch me I felt as if it was my last breath.. MY GOD ! THESE BUBBLES JUST KEPT COMING AND COMING AND COMING and every time I escaped another one would come and another and another I can honestly say well over 100 times. I am feeling my self fighting to wake up thinking inside my head while sleep, it was a horrible feeling.. one of the worst.

Prier to this day there has only been 2 times in my life that I had to go inside my own dream and get my self out.. Amazing when this happens. Scary as hell but amazing, I say scary because I was scared when it happened.
The 3rd time ,back to work.

So here I am in Alaska helping my friend with orders but I have been noticing this lady keeps starring at me, like for hours .
So after the rush was over I sat down thinking “she wants to say something so let me just ask her how’s everything with the service’ so I go over there and she just starts laughing. So I laugh with her.

1 minute into the conversation she says.
lady> I have been starring at u all night
527 really why ?
Lady> u look like this clown “laughing’
527>clown
Lady> I am so sorry but u look like this clown in my dream I had last night, it might wasn’t u but u favor him. Laughing’
U see ,I had a dream of this circus and u was a clown and I was this giant woman blowing bubbles, and every one was laughing ,every time u would escaped ,I would blow more ,it was so funny how u looked trying to get out and then u would run for your life and then I would blow the bubbles and catch u again.. and long dream as well,strange huh?
527> u was just having your self a ball huh, so funny.

What I think in my experience of this, the 3 times that I had to go inside my own dream was the day I might, no might ,the day I Dream Jumped into some one else’s dream.




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