VIDEO PROOF the WTC towers were not brought down by the planes but by deliberate demolition

reply to post by zatara

It will be difficult to protect such witnesses, I agree. They will not sent a hitman to the hotel where US-Marchalls protect the witness but probably sent a plane to the hotel......just to be sure.

No, they won't send a hitman to a hotel where US Marshals are protecting the "target". However, what they will do is tamper with the next plane or train that the target get's on, then call it an accident and ensure that the ME agrees. They will poison the food that goes up to the hotel room, then blame it on ecoli, and ensure that the investigation agrees. Orders will come down for the Marshals to be changed "by accidinet" and prison escappe will rob and kill him.

The point here, is that if the government wants you, they take you... period.


--airspoon

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Good lord! You're right! Right there in plain sight and I DO NOT buy that it could be anything but CD charges going off at the same time as the second tower is hit. The explosions are too widespread and simultaneous to be anything but what you assert.
Great work! This could be the evidence we've been searching for for 9 years.

Okay, I gotta get off this thread before my brain implodes!

Please think about this. Please.

Let's say there were explosives already in place. Let's say on every other floor. (When they were put there, doesn't matter but.... they're there. That much, I agree)
Okay? We on the same pretend page? Moving on....................


Now...........how did the 'demolition demons' KNOW the plane was going to hit where it hit let alone, WHEN it was going to hit (barring any accidents along the way)?

I will assume you're saying "They didn't"

Then, let's go to the next conundrum:

The plane hit at a random spot on the building(s) but..... in the general 'pre-planned area'. Right? (eye roll)
That means, the chargers would have to have been numbered, floor by floor by someone, somewhere.
And this telepathic-genius knew ONLY to set off those particular chargers (after counting all the floors after the 'hit") so to set off the correct ones (to really confuse the audience so they'd think it was from the jet....) instead........ of doing the typical demolition procedure and imploding them all at once! Right?

And to that I say..............you are crazy-nuts.

Reality doesn't work like that. Hollywood and cartoons do though.
So please do us Truthers a favor. At least preface your statements by saying this is only your opinion. Don't say it so adamantly because even I (whose on the same side as you) thinks it's insane.

Thank you.

Originally posted by network dude
Ahh. a PROOFER!

I just get so damn mad

Proof = something that could convict a person in a court of law. Proof is something that is tangible. What you have is a theory. Please note the difference.

Difference noted. Can you not see sudden ejections of smoke on BOTH sides of the north tower?
It seems extremely suspicious to me that the only obvious explosions to occur before the collapse happen just a split second before the second plane hits the south tower.
Taken in context with eyewitness testimony saying that there were explosions happening in the north tower not connected with the 2nd plane impact, I would definitely call this proof that there were explosives planted in at least the North WTC tower.

Just a reminder of how awesome the twin towers were,,

reply to post by Human_Alien


It wouldn't be very hard at all to time demolition charges if you sitting in WTC7 with a remote in your hand, would it? Certain bandwidths (fire and police radios for instance) weren't available that day. Perhaps someone else had a more important use for them?
I find it really odd that you agree that 9/11 was an inside job but have to take issue with everything some of us write. Of course these are my opinions, it is ATS fcs.

reply to post by Human_Alien


Hi Human_Alien.

Now....who, where and how did they know to start setting off the detonators in the first building at that exact moment? This wasn't a Hollywood movie where we (the audience) gets to put logic aside and replaced with imagination!

This sounds difficult doesn't it? But actually, it's probably one of the easier elements of the plot.

All that is required, is someone on the ground, within sight equipped with a radio detonator and a big red 'fire' button.

It really is that simple. Have eyes on site, watch for the plane coming in, time it right, and hit the detonator button. Nothing could be easier.

As to the WHO...that's the $64,000 question isn't it.

WHO was on the ground, within sight that could have a possible motive for being involved in an act of war against the US?

This is for a new and genuine investigation to fathom, however in case you didn't know, four or five men were seen parked in an unmarked van, with excellent sight coverage of the towers....they were witnessed "Jumping up and down with apparent glee, giving each other the high five, as the towers were struck, as you would do in celebration if your football team scored"..kind of a strange thing for innocent citizens to do don't you think?

The FBI also thought it was a very unusual thing for a van full of men to do, after witnessing that kind of carnage too, so they decided to go and question them and find out what the story was..after a hunt and a chase, the FBI caught up with the group of weird men, in their van and arrested them.

It was then that they promptly discovered, this van load of strange men, were not US citizens at all. They were not Arabs either, they were (and are still i assume) Israeli citizens...more than that, they were (and are) israeli citizens, whose job of work happens to be for the Israeli intelligence services, the Mossad.

Coincidence?

After all this had transpired, the FBI were ordered (by someone, i don't know who) to release these highly suspect men, who promptly fled the US, back to Israel pretty damn quick.

This is NOT conspiracy theory, this is actual fact. It is on record as being the case, so there are NO grey areas regarding this particular portion of the 9/11 saga.

Motive?

Blame the Arabs/Muslims for the atrocity, and mass murder of US civilians which of course invokes the kind of military response we have seen over the last nine years. Millions of Iraqis and Afghans dead, thousands of US and Allied soldiers and servicemen and women dead. Not to mention the new and heavily draconian and frankly unconstitutional domestic 'security' measures enacted under the 'homeland security act'. Israel can clamp down on local Arab populations and perform whatever domestic terrorism it wants to, under the name of national security without the civilized world getting it's knickers in a twist.

The HOW is (relatively) easy mate, getting to the WHO is always going to be hit and miss when the perps have friends in high places, as evidenced by the van load of whooping Mossad agents being released to flee back to Israel in short order.

reply to post by theregonnakillme


I have a question about this 'new' video. (No, not why it took NINE years to post it)

At exactly time index 01:30, a white (or silver under the sun's glare) aircraft is seen entering the shot, at center right of the screen yes?

Are we to assume this was the second aircraft to strike the towers? If so, it doesn't add up.

The aircraft is first seen entering the frame at 01:30..it takes only two seconds for it to cover the distance from the right side of the screen, to disappearing behind the first tower. Two seconds.

The second tower was not hit until 01:58 (on this video), a full 28 seconds after we first see the aircraft eneter the shot. How does an aircraft, traveling at a reported speed of 500-600 Mph, take almost one half minute to cover such a short distance?

Unless it wasn't the second aircraft. If not, who was it then?

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

It wouldn't be very hard at all to time demolition charges if you sitting in WTC7 with a remote in your hand, would it? Certain bandwidths (fire and police radios for instance) weren't available that day. Perhaps someone else had a more important use for them?
I find it really odd that you agree that 9/11 was an inside job but have to take issue with everything some of us write. Of course these are my opinions, it is ATS fcs.

Hi and thanks.

I just have issues when reality gets stretched beyond common sense.

To me, there's no reason to start imploding the building for an hour and half.

A quick flick of the switch would suffice! It makes no sense to compromise the buildings integrity (because after all, we're all saying someone put a LOT of thought into this) for an hour and a half.

The buildings were taken down by controlled demolition. That's my strong opinion. I'm just having a hard time finding reason to do this any other way than the 'normal' way. Like they did with WTC 7. They 'pulled it" at the 11th hour.
No need to detonate explosive throughout the day (unless of course that's yet another FIRST for that day)

What was probably 'exploding' moments after impact were generators. Crashing ceilings to floors. Computers. Electrical wires. Lights. Windows. Elevators crashing.... etc.

reply to post by Human_Alien


I think precision is more common sense here. I watched, and common sense told me, those towers were staying up, and we we're going to have to either fix it for weeks, or spend months disessembling it. I thought it would take a day to put the fires out. Never, did the thought cross my mind that they would fall, until they did. And even then, my mind was saying, "thats bs, thats fake, that didn't happen.." It did. So common sense now tells me, something else was at work here!



eta: in terms of, why wait an hour and a half to implode... well, they wanted as many people watching as possible. SHOCK & AWE. psyops work better when more people are psyched.

reply to post by Myendica


That's exactly what i was thinking when they were hit..apart from the usual poor people this and that etc.

I was thinking that they are going to have two versions of the 1970's film 'the towering inferno' to deal with..i was wondering how they would fight the fires. Would it be from above? From below?

Then the first tower fell..and it fell fast.

My reaction was more or less the same as yours.

Then the second tower fell...and it fell fast.

Then i was up and out of my chair, shouting at the TV that it was BS.

Then the third tower fell..and it fell fast.

Then i was certain it was a total fraud.

Then i saw Larry Silverstein, the WTC leaseholder on TV being interviewed..when he said to the interviewer after building 7 came thundering down...fast; "You know, we have had such a terrible loss of life today, such a tragic loss of life, that we decided the best thing to do was to just PULL the building".

That's what he said. PULL the building.

Not pull the firefighters out of the building and let it burn...not pull the plug on any attempts to save the building..but PULL the freaking building. Pulling a building means demolishing a building.

It was at that point any trace of any doubt i may have had about this not involving 'inside' conspirators evaporated forever. I knew then they had just conspired to murder thousands of innocent people.

I assumed it was purely for quick profit from the massive insurance policy old Silverstein had taken out on the WTC a few short months prior to the deed..little did i realize at the time that those unfortunate victims murdered that morning, would be the first of millions to die as a direct result of this plot.

And they're still dying.

reply to post by spikey


Hi!

Again. I think some people are adding confusing elements unnecessarily.

You take down a building (grant it. A 104 story, to my knowledge, has never been done before) by one hit of a switch.
There's no need to set off explosive for hours.

If that's the stance of some of you then, enlighten me and please show me where this has been done before.

As far as someone sitting in a control room. I will buy that to some degree. But I highly doubt they were sitting there, setting off explosives for an hour and half. I do believe people were watching the events unfold though. I suspect Giuliani was among the clan.

What I might entertain is...the plane itself, had some explosives on it. But what I won't believe is someone was detonating them, one by one, floor by (happenstance) floor nor.....that they were timed to off in those when the plane(s) hit.

Originally posted by Myendica
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

I think precision is more common sense here. I watched, and common sense told me, those towers were staying up, and we we're going to have to either fix it for weeks, or spend months disessembling it. I thought it would take a day to put the fires out. Never, did the thought cross my mind that they would fall, until they did. And even then, my mind was saying, "thats bs, thats fake, that didn't happen.." It did. So common sense now tells me, something else was at work here!



eta: in terms of, why wait an hour and a half to implode... well, they wanted as many people watching as possible. SHOCK & AWE. psyops work better when more people are psyched.

edit on 15-9-2010 by Myendica because: (no reason given)

You're missing my point.

I concur.
They were taken down.

What I don't believe is..........they were 'taking' them down as soon as the plane(s) hit.

They took them down moment before they collapsed.

Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by theregonnakillme

 

I have a question about this 'new' video. (No, not why it took NINE years to post it)

At exactly time index 01:30, a white (or silver under the sun's glare) aircraft is seen entering the shot, at center right of the screen yes?

Are we to assume this was the second aircraft to strike the towers? If so, it doesn't add up.

The aircraft is first seen entering the frame at 01:30..it takes only two seconds for it to cover the distance from the right side of the screen, to disappearing behind the first tower. Two seconds.

The second tower was not hit until 01:58 (on this video), a full 28 seconds after we first see the aircraft eneter the shot. How does an aircraft, traveling at a reported speed of 500-600 Mph, take almost one half minute to cover such a short distance?

Unless it wasn't the second aircraft. If not, who was it then?

The white aircraft could be the white wide body jet that was seen in the area on many videos. The NIST report makes no mention of this even though it was seen on numerous main stream media reports. I find it odd that a large aircraft painted totally white with no tail number is flying low over NY and no government official mentions it!

I also thought maybe it was one of the news helicopters? But i can only speculate. AGAIN another question for a REAL investigation; Evergreen maybe?!

reply to post by spikey


" That's what he said. PULL the building. "

Hmmm ... How about posting a source that would validate this claim of yours ?

Can you do that ?

I'll save you some time ... NO YOU CAN'T .

Stop telling lies while calling yourself a "Truther" . It's disgraceful and a mockery .

As much as this has been discussed here on ATS , I am very surprised that you would be so arrogant as to put forth such a blatant lie .

i have seen that clip of LS saying we decided to pull it many times before

im not very good with computers and i dont know how to post a link off you tube and im also in work so cant get on to you tube

but if u have a look am sure u'll fine it!

reply to post by okbmd

I will do it for him!

Originally posted by airspoon
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

You know.....you all say this but never once am I hearing HOW it was done.

This is why we need a true investigatoin. Nobody really knows until we get a proper investigation.

--airspoon

I think the simple fact that a full proper, independant, investigation is prohibited, is enough proof that this was all a product of foul play. Not the works of random terrorists which if it were true, does not justify the invasion of two middle eastern nations.

reply to post by DCDAVECLARKE


I'm sorry , could you pinpoint the exact moment in either video where LS said they made the decision to pull the BUILDING ?????????

Alex Jones is a BALD FACED LIAR , Silverstein never once said "We pulled the BUILDING" .

Anyone who claims this is what was said is also a LIAR .

reply to post by okbmd

The guy wanted all of the towers out of the way imo!

reply to post by DCDAVECLARKE


You are entitled to your opinion .

That does not include making outright claims that have been proven false .

Again , show me where Silverstein said pull the "BUILDING" .

You can't .

This is just another lie that the TM continues to spout as 'truth' .