Non MSM knowledge on Coldsores

Hey all,

While this post might not be a conspiracy, after reading the GREAT post regarding fighting cancers I wanted to reach out to ATS members regarding Coldsore treatments. I have been afflicted with them as long as I can remember, and when it comes around my world seems to come to a halt. Feelings of embarrassment, why me, plague my days about 3-4 times a year.

Are there any members out there with alternative information out there, or remedies that have worked, or helped the healing process. To the best of my knowledge at the first sign of a tingle I use

Ice
L Lysine
Vitamin C

Every once and awhile I will use "over the counter" stuff, but I am always disappointed with the results.
Hope to hear from you guys, and hopefully make my life a little easier

I too feel your pain. I've been taking lysine daily and even if I do have an outbreak, the sore is so small others really can't tell I have one unless I point it out. It still feels like the size of a bowling ball but I think alot of it is my self conscience about it.

reply to post by EoTsNake

Canker sores (not cold sores) are made much worse by sodium lauryl sulfate which is in most toothpaste.

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Probably explains why I rarely get them nowadays. I don't brush my teeth.

I had one ages ago and I got so frustrated with it, I tore the core out of it. Talk about blinding pain. I almost passed out. But I got the center out. Its a small gray ball of knotted tissue. After that, it never came back. I still have scar on my lip, but its not near as noticeable as that big sore.

A cold sore means your bodies defense mechanism is warn out.
many things can cause this to happen,
One is stress
but usually You are low on Lysine,.
Your body cannot produce this and so you must get it from foods or supplement.
My recommendation,.. do some research into what causes herpes and cold sores.
Sounds a bit drastic but the info is the same,..
Stay away from peanut butter, peanuts for a while
anything that might compromise your immune system,.
Many people are allergic to things they never thought they would be, Allergies stress your system.

After you do some research on Lysine try this,
Go to a local GNC or I use a company Nutritiondiscounters.com
and buy your self some AMINO ACIDS. , these are basic nutrients your body requires.
One of them is Lysine which combats cold sores, a weakness in your defense system.
The soft gels work the best.
Start out with Two in morning and two in evening for a week
then two a day will be enough..
More questions about this please feel free to U2U me
I have been free of the this for 8 years.
Oh and the topical medicines are a waste of money. Fix the problem from with in BEFORE it starts.

I am not a doctor,. but I will play one on ATS''

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I am in no way trying to be funny or smart or cute when I type this but you have been checked out completely right? Cold sores 3 to 4 times per year sounds like HSV. Could it be that you were possibly born with this or well never mind I would just get different doctors opinions on your affliction.
Not a doctor or a nurse...but I studied to be one...Yeah.

Just screw what people say about you and your sore...once you go through humility, you are golden. BEcause a cold sore is only a few days (or weeks for some) but you live the rest of the year...think about it

Originally posted by EoTsNake
To the best of my knowledge at the first sign of a tingle I use

Ice
L Lysine
Vitamin C

Every once and awhile I will use "over the counter" stuff, but I am always disappointed with the results.
Hope to hear from you guys, and hopefully make my life a little easier

I think you're using the right stuff already. All I would recommend is maybe increasing the dose of lysine when/if you are anticipating an increase in stress/illness of any kind, as this will help nip the problem in the bud.

Coldsores are Herpes. Its simplex 1.

Herpes is a very old virus. There are plenty of variations and snippets of it around. Eppstein-Barr, MCV, Chicken Pox, (yes, really) and other herpes viruses and even snippets as retroviruses and other even smaller viral "bits".

This virus type is even in our DNA. At some point some variation of it, some retrovirus, managed to snip itself into the human nuclear DNA, and is passed along. It is a very hardy virus.

I do various things to help heal up my skin faster. Skin things do not heal up quick for me. But I wouldn't necessarily say that my stuff heals it up faster than the average for doing nothing.

There are a number of nutritional supplements with documented anti-viral activity, including against herpes class viruses (such as what often cause sores in the mouth).

An example is elderberry extract, and although I'm not aware of human in vivo trials for this particular type of virus, I know it's been demonstrated in vitro to have anti-viral activity against herpes viruses, and there have been multiple human trials suggesting that it may substantially shorten the duration of the flu, which is of course caused by a very different type of virus. The extract is available in both syrup and capsule form, although I believe all the human trials used the syrup form. It isn't known to have side effects over the short or long term, and has antioxidant properties.

Avoid alcohol and chocolate.
Avoid bug sprays.
Avoid mercury fillings.


Make sure your living quarters don't have dark spots (mould) on the walls and are not damp, as mould in (or under) a house destroys your immune system.

Make sure there is no dust inside, as the dust mites that live in house dust also affect your immune system.


Get plenty of sleep.
Get plenty of fresh veges and raw fruit.
Get the best water filtration system you can afford.
Always eat a healthy breakfast. Organic oats and an apple is a great way to start the day. (Besides, you might end up winning the derby.)

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thanks for telling the cast its a herpies virus


heres my contribution to the OP

Docosanol is a compound that is capable of having an inhibitory effect on the herpes virus and therefore it is suggested that it can help to limit both the duration and severity of cold sores. Clinical trials for one docosanol product showed that it reduced the median time-to-healing period for cold sores by (only) about one day. In most cases the instructions for creams containing docosanol state that the product should be applied to the area where the cold sore is forming repeatedly throughout the day, as soon as a person senses that a lesion has begun to form (preferably the Tingle stage).

www.animated-teeth.com...



lip area fever blisters, i used to get even from bacteria in the soils...i was raised on a Dairy Farm
what was even worse was the very rare (twice in my life) when this 'blister' would be around ones' eye
...no its not pink-eye, thats another malady that my daughter had when in elementary school

the last time i bought the special ointment was some 30 years ago for a tiny tube costing $20,
i mean the ammount of medicine that would be less than one toothbrush load of toothpaste....
but it was the only thing that works (at least in my case)

Well the traditional remedy in western herbal medicine is melissa officianalis (lemon balm) in the mint family with a strong limonene content(lemon smell). Its is anti viral but specific in cases of cold sore eruptions. Combine it with lysine as mentioned above internally. Avoid red meat and all high sources of argenine(another amino acid)

Herpes being a chronic virus, you need to treat the liver over a long term. Astragalus tea, where not used in acute viral episodes can be most effective in chronic conditions like Hep C and Herpes. Your best bet though is to follow aforementioned advise and try some supervised fasting while using alteritives(ie.blood cleansing herbs for lack of better lay terms). parsley juice no more then 2 oz a day @150lbs/body weight, red clover to usher out undigested animal protien(arginine), styllingia(queens root), yellow dock(rumex crispus) and so on. Please feel free to U2U Im happy to direct you to a practitioner in your area if I know one.

Thanks for the tips all, they are appreciated!

I am going to give them a try, one question.... is the Astragalus \ red clover tea something I should drink on a daily basis? Or just when I am feeling run down and wore out?

Also I dont want to go off the deep end, but I swear I hardly ever, if at all see professional athletes with coldsores?

FACT: 85 to 90 percent of all Americans have the cold-sore virus. And 55 million have recurrent symptoms, so you are not alone if you get them.

Source: www.livestrong.com...

Maybe I am missing something, or the medical staffs of people on that pay level are privet to medical information the main stream people are not! Just a thought, health and healing for all...

About fifteen years ago, I would get really bad cold sores all the time. They would start out on my lips and then spread to my nose and even around my eyes. It was miserable, to say the least. Nothing I did would really help. I mainly washed the sores with soap and water until they dried up. But after about five years, they tapered off. I rarely get a cold sore now and when I do, it doesn't spread past my lips and is usually gone within a day or so. I don't know what changed, because I didn't do anything specific, no over the counter medicines or anything. So don't despair, this situation may not be forever! Also, I have found that by using a piece broken off of an aloe vera plant works very well on cold sores.

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You would do nothing but benefit from taking Astragalus and Red Clover on a regualr basis. Astragalus works on strengthening the Lungs, Spleen and Digestion. Its mildly detoxifying to the Liver, contains low molecular weight long chain polysacharrides which strongly improve immune function. Its name in Chinese is Huang QI which translates to Golden Emperor (yellow energy literally)

Red Clover Blossom and other alteratives I would take during a fast, or during a prescribed period of cleansing over the course of week. Too much cleansing action can have a poor effect, so being prudent is of the utmost. If you wont see a practitioner, then I highly reccomend getting a few good books Like Maude Grieves a Modern Herbal, or some other reputable Materia Medicas so that you can be familiar with plant actions and contraindications.

My hillbilly grandma always told us that dabbing a little chicken poop on them would clear them up. Or was that chapped lips? I forget.
Thankfully we didn't have chickens.

I would also look into Manuka honey. It is made from Tea Tree pollen and has amazing Anti-Viral properties. You can dab some on 2 to 3 x a day and maybe try a half teaspoon 1 to 2 times a day. Reishi mushroom for about 10 days. Astragalus. Vitamin C at least 2 - 5,000 mg. Lysine. All are good things to help with Viral infections,Bacterial infections, etc.

Cold sores are a type of herpes. It's no surprise that they'll keep coming back.
See a doctor for treatment.