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Originally posted by davidgrouchy
Well first of all let me put my head in the guillotine and disclose
that I am very sensitive and I pray a lot and I use proper names.
As to the OP's question, it is phrased in just such a way that
normally I wouldn't participate at all, as it's parameters
suggest an answer is already in mind, and it is not
an answer of learning or clarity, but condemnation.
Yet the surprising thing is when I read the OP
I get the distinct sensation that they are just
curious, they actually want to know why.
I guess the query is framed in such
an inflammatory way is just a reflect-
ion of the times we live in as this
is how people are talking now.
What concerns me most is
that the OP's generation
would happily imprison
the church leaders
without even once
reading the book.
So in the hopes
of staving off any
bloodshed, because
history shows that it is
quite easy for one generation
to decide they are too advanced
and sophisticated to tolerate any
old fashioned or boring groups and
to decide to speed that process along,
I will try to answer the OP with full faith and intent.
Biggest problem with religion is that only One Man communicates with "God"
Congratulations!
I congratulate you,
because soon you will
be able to congratulate me!
This question was not true until
just now at this very writing, I win!
The Bible is actually a contest to see
who gets to live forever and who seeks death.
By being the first one who figures out that the Bible
is a contest I get to live forever. Surely in a few hundred
years when people start to notice they'll say that "God" must
have communicated with me in some form or other. Now if I can
stay out of any secret longevity research labs and continue with my
daily routine of work, exercise, and design, then I can build this solar
system wide culture that I'm making. When it's done what will they say?
No the problem isn't that only one person ever got to read the bible,
the problem is that it's so simple that it's an embarrassment when
one sees it being done right. What are you going to do when
you find out that he's already here on earth, taking over
everything, and you are _not_ in his circle of friends.
This is why the secular world wants you to
destroy religion, because it is far too easy
for a group that treats people like family
to take all business away from corp-
orations and their abysmal cust-
omer service. They fear all
their work will wind up in
the hands of one peas-
ant enthroned by a
dubious miracle.
/humble meekness
Congradulate
me now?
David Grouchy
Originally posted by metalore
reply to post by operation mindcrime
operation mindcrime, I think a huge flaw in your example is that even monkeys don't let a higher placed group member "lash out" for no reason. They let that higher placed group member lash out FOR A REASON.
The capacity for evil in human beings comes from those who want to lash out for no reason in order to appear like the one who is lashing out for some reason, even if that reason is the very sustenance of social structure. You see, the evil ones aren't even concerned about social structure. They're just jealous of the alpha and want to fool people into thinking they are the alpha. And they even want to convince you that it is normal for them to lash out for "no reason." THAT is what is actually capable of destroying society. NOT transcension. And it looks like you fell for their trick.
They know nothing about maintaining social structure, and, in fact, nothing about destroying social structure. But it is only the latter that they can accomplish.
Originally posted by catwhoknows
reply to post by hadriana
To had and sab,
I respect what you are. I am a believer in Jesus, and I cannot tell you how angry I am about Jesus being connected to the church of His name. He is not.
The Anglican church is full of hypocrites and liars.
So is the Roman Catholic church.
So is every church - that is what I believe.
Jesus is about love, forgiveness and brotherhood. You might want to consider Him.
We humans are unique. We don't fit with nature.
Originally posted by operation mindcrime
reply to post by saabacura
We humans are unique. We don't fit with nature.
Isn't it wonderful how your conscious mind is telling you that this is a fact? Isn't it wonderful how everybody has some notion (by default) that somehow he/she must be special?
Well we are special. But only in regard to how we seem to convince ourself that we are special.
The rest is just nature!!
Peace
Do we really fit in with nature? You need to think a little more. I never said we are special. That is you.