Ancient Mars

reply to post by Phage

I've made mistakes. And when I find out about it I try to correct them.

Had to laugh at that having seen you correct a mistake,

was it something along the lines of "ah, them pesky zeroes"
when you quoted a source on mass that was in error by X 10000 or something...

I dont recall you correcting the theory to fit..

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Here's what the color wheel looks like with the L4 filter (L456):

Oh yeah that looks pretty good... and the rocks look brown

And with the L2 filter (L256):

Yup definitely NOT close to true color there... and those rocks have that NASA reddish tint Nice work

Glad to see you and weedwacker finally getting it

Its kinda like this set...

Viking the way NASA showed us



The way the blue people try to show it..



But since the Viking lander is actually WHITE... and those squares are actually red green and blue like the Rover sundial... I will stick to this as being CLOSE to true color on a dusty day



You can actually see red green blue and yellow on the central color chart, even though its in the shade

reply to post by zorgon


And that bottom pic shows a near perfect Red,White and Blue American flag,,

reply to post by CynicalM

There was no "theory" to correct. It was some irrelevant point about how much the Van Allen belts weigh.

But as a banned member you should be more careful about covering your tracks Virgom.

reply to post by Phage


No tracks to cover mate, I got interested following my son on this site...
Ask the Mods, but thanks for bringing it up, big of you..

And it was a big error on your part Phage, just sidestepped with a laugh..

Seeing as Mars had mega oceans in the past perhaps its that martian water that we g0t deluged with after it was torn from the surface of mars by passing nibiru and sent splashing down on the earth in time to float the Ark.
Other than that awsome pics boys n girls....thanks for a great read!

I find this really interesting and I have a great deal of respect for the amount of research that has gone into this.My question is if martian life had existed on Mars and did pretty much annihilate the planet through warfare then the only type of weapons that spring to mind to do that much destructive power are nuclear weapons, and if nuclear weapons caused this much destruction then wouldnt there be radiation to imply this?

I certainly believe Mars likely had human type life and civilization before. One only needs to look at Richard Hoagland's work.

You present an interesting conjecture and the history of mars is indeed an enigma....I have always wondered if some horrific cataclysmic occurrence has led to mars being in that state that it is today and could very well be a precursor to the fate of our planet as well.

We can never truly know how long was mars habitable and also the nature of life that evolved there.Perhaps all of the life on earth is in fact "alien" in origin.

We are always led to believe that life prescribes to a certain dogma but we certainly have no indication that how the universe has evolved since the ages past....that may well be lost forever.

reply to post by Skyfloating


WAy cool. I love thjis sort of stuff on ATS. Its what keeps me coming back.
what about those spaced objects. we need to hurry and send some humans there

Hot Spot for Life Found on Ancient Mars Volcano

Nov 01, 2010

If life ever existed on Mars, then newly discovered mineral deposits on the flanks of a long-dead volcano would be a good place to dig for its remains.

Spotted by a high-powered orbital imager, they’re not the first deposits found on Mars of silica, a mineral used by some simple forms of life, including single-celled algae that evolved early in Earth’s volcanic past.

But the new deposits are the first from a locale with a definite volcanic pedigree, formerly rich in heat and water, as well as minerals — a locale formerly suited, by any earthly definition, for life.

Stand on the slopes of Nili Patera 3.7 billion years ago, and “you would see steam rising up out of the volcano. In the spots we see the deposits, that’s where the highest concentration of steam would be,” said geoscientist Jack Mustard of Brown University. “It’d be like standing on Hawaii, looking across a volcano, seeing the fumaroles where vapors are given off, or standing in Iceland where the hills are steaming.”

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Exquisite picture, it doesn't look like Mars to me, hopefully this would be a good place to look for life, at least single cell aglae.

Your right... it has that nice "Lunar Black Sky" look that NASA is so fond of.



Silica = Silicon dioxide does that make them 'simple lifeforms that depend on silica" Silicon based life forms?

reply to post by Aquarius1


"Silicon-based life forms"??

Presenting: The "Horta"!

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Species thought to be indigenous to planet Janus VI. Maybe evolved elsewhere???



(Oh, and the image and story are neato, good find. I don't think the "black sky" is supposed to be an exact representation, though!!! I mean, Opportunity and Spirit photos dispeled that, long ago......)

reply to post by weedwhacker


I wouldn't want to come across that anywhere, if reminds of a monster from outer-space, ah maybe that is where it comes from, I would imagine whatever is found is going to be similar to what is also on earth, since Mars is in our solar system and way back when these planets were formed there had to be similar attributes.

Originally posted by Aquarius1
Exquisite picture, it doesn't look like Mars to me, hopefully this would be a good place to look for life, at least single cell aglae.

It doesn't look like Mars because it's a computer generated image with some photo "painted" over the 3D scene, that looks like it was made with too little detail to look good.

reply to post by ArMaP

It doesn't look like Mars because it's a computer generated image with some photo "painted" over the 3D scene, that looks like it was made with too little detail to look good.

I thought that was what it is, I agree there isn't much detail, if they are going to make these prictures they should at least make them look real, still a nice picture.

Thanks

reply to post by ArMaP


Ah so its CGI then

As to Silicon based life forms.. what in the Universe ever gave people the idea that a life form based on silicon would be a rock creature?

Silicon is a component that makes our skin flexible and resilient, Silicon implants are not stones. Silicon rubber is common place so why do we think silicon life forms must be rock critters?

Silicon in mineral is commonly crystalised as quartz SiO4 Hardness of 7

Now Carbon... the stuff that makes up those crazy life forms on Earth is crystalised as Diamond Hardness 10

Yet we are not rock critters


Now this is what Hu-mans can do with silicon



Not a rock critter but pure silicon

reply to post by Skyfloating




I also think it is most interesting that these holes are equidistant from each other. Beware though of speaking in absolute terms. "Always, Never" and so on lead to embarrassments sometimes. Those holes could be natural. They could be. I could speculate and come up with an explanation but best wait for someone to go look at them in person. I want very badly to know that humans or others really were on Mars but I am not going to let this desire cloud my judgment.