The Price of being Awaken!

Originally posted by Serizawa
In my experiences, the people who i found to be truly awake seemed to be in depression.

They are still asleep then.

Just becoming more aware of the depravity and mass suppression of mankind does not mean one is truly awake.

I too find it hard to try and expand peoples minds, but they are like zombies. Most of the time I don't like to socialize because I know I don't fit in with others and have never been good at having conversations with people anyways. I have also been going through rapis changes from depression to joy or happiness and haven't been able to pin it down to why it is happening.

Awake people don't come to internet forums, nor are they hippies that smoke weed.

You don't even have to open your eyes to be awake. Just think about that one.

I cant say im awake...but i can say...i do not get frustrated. I do not get joy out of TV, i drink, but only once a month or so.

I dream about the future, but not of things going boom or jesus returning...i dream of silly things like...being at a stoplight, or saying a certain phrase to someone.

I may be in the beginning of waking up or i could be think i am, and am still a zombie, who knows.

I do not feel depressed, i feel alone...but not depressed.

I would love to help people wake up, but there is so much negativity that i feel the energy being sucked out of me whenever i try.

Fighting back will only get me killed, there aren't enough like-minded people out in the open yet to SAFELY make a difference.

Originally posted by Serizawa
In my experiences, the people who i found to be truly awake seemed to be in depression.

I have experienced the same thing.

The road to the truth takes a lot out of you, and makes you weak, and that weakness makes the truth that much harder to handle in the end.

However, the fully awakened understand that the universe is evolving, and this evolution, although painful, will benefit the universe (everything) in the end. We are the universe.

With that said, here is an interesting quote;

‎"For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." - Ecclesiastes 1:18

Man to be fully awaken is said that you are not affected by the circumstances. You see them, hear them but that's it.

Although, you cannot be a not responsive person every time. So sometimes you see the difference and you get depressed. BUT if you stay depressed things won't be better.

You must have seen it many times. When you are feeling good things are being improved. Call it law of attraction, call it as you want. But I think and I have tested it that is true!

I feel awake yet am I? *looks at Ghandi*

Anyway semantics, I feel as though I can see above the clouds, I can see things the way they are and not the way I'm told to see them.

However, since 'finding' this knowledge that I know - have haven't lost any sleep over it - in fact, I sleep better...in the knowledge that there's more people that see the world the same way as I do.
Spiritually, I feel I am 'in progress' with much to learn, but I can see the direction I need to go; and that makes me sleep easy - nothing is worth losing sleep over my friends, nothing. Don't sacrifice you potential worrying about anything when your head hits the pillow, for you'll only scuper your efforts to deal with it in the morning.

Nigh-night.

EDIT: Grammar

[edit on 7-9-2010 by OptimusPrimate]

I've made this disclaimer forever, maybe I should put it on my sig, sorry if my english sounds a little weird, it's my second language and I still don't manage it to perfection but I'm trying to put my toughts in words anyway

Oh well, I was really depressed for years. How many? like 10. It was all a thyroid malfunction, and I dropped the "happy pills" when I started to take the real medication for my condition. What I've discovered: being happy is a state of mind. It's not having everything, it's not being truly awake, no. If you want to be happy, change your way of seeing life and presto!.
It works wonders for me.

I don't think I'm fully awake. I think I'm in the process. Like when Neo is kidnapped by the agents first, and wake up on his bed thinking everything was a bad dream. I haven't take the "red pill" yet, just had some glimpses of what reality is. It was so frustrating, because I wanted to know more and more everyday, and the more I've read, the less sense everything made to me, the more answers to my questions, the more new questions I had. My anxiety rate was so high it started to hurt my physical body (I need to make exercise, the doctors said, because I developed a fybromialgia just because of anxiety and frustration and it can be treated just with exercise because it's not physical but mental. Also, I started to smoke like 1 year ago, when I joined ATS) And here I am, still full of questions, without any answer, feeling so powerless and alone in this process. I've found some friends here on ATS that understands me too, who are in the same boat as me too. Sometimes I'd love to have them closer so I can find rest on their shoulders time to time, but it's complex for me because I live so far away from everyone. I have 2 friends IRL that vibrates with me, but I don't see them so often... It's a lonely path, for sure.

Anyway. If you ask me, this is a very frustrating process, and of course it can produce depression if you don't know how to manage it. When I feel like I'm going directly toward depression again, I just put my earphones on, turn the music on and raise the volume to the max. And take a stroll on the city. I often call them "rallys" because sometimes they last more than 3 hours, walking without a goal, just,,, listening to my music while walking. I feel way better when I'm back home. I was depressed so many years, so I know how to deal with it. Am I frustrated? yes. anxious? yes. but depressed... nevermore.

Now I want to teach... but I don't know what to teach! hahahah

[edit on 7-9-2010 by Caggy]

Serizawa,

I'll admit that I haven't read all the responses to your thread. I would rather address your original post than "duke it out" or respond to other posters. You seem to be at a crossroads in your state of thinking, and I can feel for you. I have been in this state of mind since the time that I had my first rational thought. I won't go into my own experiences, as they are too many to discuss.

My emotions have been varied during the years that I have been in the state of realization that you are talking about. I have gone from extreme happiness to extreme depression, to everything in between. These days I have taken the route of being neutral in both mind and spirit. It has taken me many years of training to get to this point, but I believe that I am finally at a point where my emotions are "in the gray" all the time. There is one thing, however, which still bothers me and makes me angry...

...the corruption and evil that plagues our planet.


We see it every day, whether it is on the news, in the paper, or on the internet. I see the ways of evil men taking control of our fellow human beings. Young children are being indoctrinated from an early age in state-sanctioned schools, young adults are more concerned with which celebrity is in jail, instead of what the planet's leaders are doing with money acquired by evil means. Adults have given up hope of ever getting ahead, because the banking families of the world own everything; as far as the eye can see. They own you, they own me, they own everybody.

Yet nobody seems to notice...




...except us and those that have awakened from their intellectual stupor.



We could say that this path that we have chosen (or has chosen us), is a lonely path, filled with depression, loneliness, and solitude. Yet, for as much as we speak of these negatives, we should feel so lucky that we are some of the few that have seen through the lies and deceit. There are more out there just waiting for a chance for someone to hear them, to listen to their worries, and their ideas. I talk to people on the street in my own town, and many of them know something is up, yet they have no idea of what to do. I listen, and I offer my own opinions and ideas. The one thing that most of these people share, however, is the fear of losing what they think is part of their self-worth. It could be family, it could be friends, a job, a car, or that big screen TV that they purchased after years of saving for it. What they still fail to understand is that they don't really need these things, and that they have been programmed to want these things, whether they know it or not. I have made it my personal mission to seek out these people, give them the options of a new way of thinking, and then listen to them. Sometimes, all it takes is a caring ear to help these people see things the way we see them.

There are those who will not, or cannot listen, and I do not pity, nor scorn them. They have chosen their own paths, just like we have chosen ours.

I am drawing up plans about how we can attempt to make a difference. You have seen that from my own thread. I also appreciate the kinds words that you wrote to me. I am happy that there are others out there who see things the way I do.

The problem now is: what do we do about it? Talk to others. Make them aware of the lies going on. If they choose not to listen, that is their choice, but do not let your own voice go cold. You may feel alone, but you have more support than you think. Don't give up the things you enjoy because you feel disenfranchised. Continue with your music, and continue with your physical training. Both are skills that will be needed in the future. To be a bard and a warrior in the same breath is a skill that we should all possess. You have my support my friend. If you wish to talk further, feel free to U2U me at any time.


You are not alone.




Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

Being awake is a confusing, maybe even terrifying experience to some, to others it is pure Joy, a liberation of the soul.

What comes with being "Awake" is the realisation that you are responsible for your own actions. What do you do with this new power. It is so awesome, one might think it best to put it back in its box and continue letting others guide their life.

Here is your instruction manual.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

This isn't a religious creed. It is the basic Truth on which all religions were formed, and later corrupted by man. It is a scientific fact that when two opposing forces collide, their destruction is inevitable. Man, each of us, is a destructive force without adherence to this basic truth. It is the purpose of our free Will. We must choose to give each other room for all of our perspectives and respect each other. As a species dependant on each for our survival, it is more than respect. We must love each other as we love ourselves.

Do you not feel it in your core? Do you not want to be loved above all else?

It is the tie that binds us. It is the string that makes us one. Religiously or scientifically, we all have a part to contribute to our survival.

We are at a pivotal moment in time My Brothers and Sisters. Our awakened state will either destroy us as our untamed passions run wild over this earth. Or we can subdue them and love each other, throw off our chains of captivity, and proudly proclaim

I AM (your unique self)
King of Kings (Sovereign of yourself amongst sovereigns of themselves)
I am here to reclaim my Kingdom (Free of the governments and judgements which have bound you for ages).

Think on it Brothers and Sisters

Can we do better than what we have done so far?

With Love,

Your Brother

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Dont feel bad dude.....Depression is a good sign as we get closer. Things that use to float my boat no longer do once I started realizing just how all that we experience is a lie. Every 99.8% of it.
I'm not even enjoying sex anymore with women, self, or perversional thoughts I make up to try and get lift off.

It has all become irrelevant...just about every aspect of it...however there is no suicidal or homicidal thought whatsoever.

Truly odd.

"Never never never give up" - Winston Churchill
I had these same problems im a sophomore in college and the end of last school year was tough. I came to realize just how deep the rabbit hole goes and was shocked it crushed my dreams.
BUT then i realized i know wats up im not a blind follower of leaders that drive us head on in to ruin! Sure theirs nothing i can really do about it now but I know the truth and that's where it hast to start.
WE the People can take charge of our own future because its based on truth! So don't get depressed! You know the truth! That should make u happier than anything i can think of!

So now man the only question is what are We the People gonna do about it?

I think part of the awakening process (and secret) is to live in the moment. Screw the past and don't project. Be here now.

We worry because we're programmed to worry. We're instantly born into a god fearing and world-worrying society!

So if we're depressed that means we're still part of the very system we know is unhealthy and destructive.

I too worry. Don't get me wrong but I really try to refocus my energy and be in the moment. For it's all we have and all we truly control which boils down to; all that really matters.

Try not to think too far ahead. You'll be just fine.

Firstly....AWESOME avatar!

I've always been different & all too well aware that people were the only REAL
enemies here... When I began to try to divine my purpose here in earnest..around the early '90's, those around me just derided & mocked my reading materials, crystals, runes, Bibles just as they still do reading ATS over my shoulder! I once believed I was here to care for the surviving animals & plantlife after the inevitable man made apocalypse.... maybe that IS still my purpose but I dont know for sure. Seems the more I learned and "awakened" the LESS sure of my purpose and beliefs I became...
And I kept extremely detailed journals since my childhood...only to find my "best" friend reading them in secret & using the info to manipulate me! (Never
realized how NAIVE I actually was!
Now I have so little in common & such distrust of ALL people's motives that I sleep almost 12 hours a day...
I hope your experience proves more joyful!

Hey ATS......Over the last 2 days my depression seems to be fading away. I recently received some good news and that has really lifted my spirit. I was able to get a bit of sleep last night, although i had a severe migraine. The night before that i hardly got any sleep and my appetite is still poor. For some strange reason, as i smoked today....i felt sick and disgusted! could this be the first stepping stone to quitting? Let's hope so. My current heart rate = 48bpm, from 120bpm two days ago. I still feel a little anxious and uneasy, although more relaxed and more optimistic.

I have decided to give up everything i have, and abandon my 'dreams' (forced onto me by my family) for what i believe in....what i believe is a long journey to my purpose. A journey of spiritual and mental wealth, over worldly pleasures and financial gain. I sit here anxiously, wondering if i will be granted this opportunity. Have you ever been so close to accomplishing what you considered to be your dream, only to realize it was a path merely to guide you to what your 'real dream' was/is. Something you never considered before this point?...and all of a sudden all you had been working for became meaningless?...This is where i stand. I wish to soon travel the world and experience different cultures and lifestyles. Having already traveled to a number of countries, The third world is where i feel most at home.

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Dude I understand where you are coming from. Its difficult I agree, but there is a great light coming in 2012, with this light, the world will change and many of its flaws will be swept away for a new beginning in a new age. I dont know this for sure, but I feel this is the truth. Keep your loved ones close and your chin up. Here's some inspiration for us both:





Warm regards,

Rajaten

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Seriz,

I want to tell you that you are very aware, and being aware is difficult.

I also want to tell you that the reason you are depressed is because you are aware.
And I want to say - stay aware.

Something else - when you are aware, you do not need to be depressed.

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I have been there it sucks but don't worry it gets better have a positive outlook on life the world doesn't need more negativity.

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it's a hard life being "awake" i tell ya you look at people waking up the road or whatever and you wanna help them out but you relise that they hear what your saying but it's like the comprehension is missing i quit watching tv myself but i cant stop watching football that is one of my passions! anyway money means nothing to me aswell and cant find the right girl b/c there all "asleep" i think we should do something and stop the problems but to solve one problem just leads to another we will never have a perfect world but what we can do is help out anyone we can whether there asleep or not and that is where you should get your satisfaction..as for zombies yeah everyone is pretty much mindless but that doesnt mean we give up and dont help a brother out!

great thread but wrong ...
there is NO price to pay to be awoken
i agree with the part that people are waking up slowly but surely
at a rate never seen before in human history
you want to know about the enlightment age

please read the thread in my signature
that the age of enlightment has started
you might change your view on it (depressing part)
its the contrary