Radical Islam is world's greatest threat - Tony Blair

Radical Islam is world's greatest threat - Tony Blair

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Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair has described radical Islam as the greatest threat facing the world today.

He made the remark in a BBC interview marking the publication of his memoirs.

Mr Blair said radical Islamists believed that whatever was done in the name of their cause was justified - including the use of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.

Mr Blair, who led Britain into war in Afghanistan and Iraq, denied that his own policies had fuelled radicalism.

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Blair the war criminal and Christian fundamentalist is at it again.

Where does he get off persecuting Muslims?

And why does he think he is a Megalomaniac Messiah?

Him and his disgusting wife are both Christian fundamentalist scumbags, with hatred for Muslims in their hearts, and the eradication of freedom for normal people of the world in their heads.

I have had enough of Blair. It's about time he shut the hell up, and stopped his ravings about 'Radical Islam' being the greatest threat the world could face.

The greatest threat the world faces at the moment is Religion, Theism, and blind conviction in general. NOT just radical Islam - although it doesn't help.

Can someone please do something about this ODIOUS scumbag?

Parallex.

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[edit on 3-9-2010 by Parallex]

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I posted in the later thread by Kiwi Foot, his thread went off on a different tangent to yours, which for some reason has barely begun.
I post here because this thread has a chance to be about Blair and not the conflicts in general.
Tony Blair was , from the begining a liar and a cheat. His government was a shadow of true Labour, something I was very upset by.
Going back a while now, but when he and the New Labour government were voted into power I was joyful. After what I would call disasterous reign by the Conservative Party (or as I like to call them the " Lets Bash the Poor, and the Undernourished Party" ) I felt that surely anything would be better than the state sponsored theft of the working classes freedom to live and eat .
I thought that the Labour element would provide for my needs and those of my family , because we were in the social bracket of being skint, and having a father who worked for the MoD . Suprise suprise the supposedly labour government did NOTHING for us, save of course for over complicating everything it touched and grasping power for itself. Tony Blair, and new labour in my opinion should have been shot , the moment it was revealed that they had lost the socialist aspect , tempered with capitalist pragmatism, that made the real Labour party a going concern. I hope they all burn in hell. They and thier crappy choices (to numerous to name ) kept me and my family in abject poverty for many years. I spit on them, I curse them,and theres no punishment I can concieve of which would be enough for the crime of dissapointing me to this extent.

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Blimey. You really don't like Blair.

I can't argue with you though - although the Labour government did do some good things, they did more that was regressive and Orwellian. Alot of it, was down to evil Blair and his sycophants.

Parallex.

[edit on 4-9-2010 by Parallex]

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Where does he get off persecuting Muslims?

I don't see where he is persecuting Muslims. I don't know about you but I find a very distinct difference between those who follow the Muslim religion and those who are considered Islamic fundamentalists.

Fundamentalists of any religion are a threat to all. It just happens however that most terrorists are seemingly Islamic fundamentalists. So, in essence I am in agreement with his statements.

He's not really helped the situation has he, what makes muslims turn militant? Probably doesn't help that you start illegal wars in their countries killing thousands of innocent muslims.

This guy is truly a horrible despicable individual.

Originally posted by zarlaan
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Where does he get off persecuting Muslims?

I don't see where he is persecuting Muslims. I don't know about you but I find a very distinct difference between those who follow the Muslim religion and those who are considered Islamic fundamentalists.

Fundamentalists of any religion are a threat to all. It just happens however that most terrorists are seemingly Islamic fundamentalists. So, in essence I am in agreement with his statements.

Well said that man.

Let me explain my thoughts on this - Basically, Tony Blair is whipping up the general anti-Muslim sentiment that is festering in this country. He's not doing it because radicalism of any sort (an excellent point from you) is obviously dangerous, he's doing it because it specifically targets Muslims.

His wife is a notorious Muslim hater, and they both belong to a hardline Catholic sect that essentially believes in modern day 'Crusades' against infidels of all sorts. Including atheists!

Parallex.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
He's not really helped the situation has he, what makes muslims turn militant? Probably doesn't help that you start illegal wars in their countries killing thousands of innocent muslims.

This guy is truly a horrible despicable individual.

I'll agree that while messing with the affairs of others doesn't help. I don't find that its the cause for Muslims turning into radicals. They were always radical and holding onto archaic ideological views. The efforts of Blair and others simply causes them to attack them along with everybody else who doesn't hold their beliefs.

Blair and the other political powers aren't the ones responsible for a Islamic fundamentalist walking into the corner market in their own home town, and blowing up themselves and others in the name of 'Allah'.

They target all who don't follow their view of Islam, even the ones who are peaceful followers of Islam.



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Let me explain my thoughts on this - Basically, Tony Blair is whipping up the general anti-Muslim sentiment that is festering in this country. He's not doing it because radicalism of any sort (an excellent point from you) is obviously dangerous, he's doing it because it specifically targets Muslims.

I think I see what you're getting at. Let me ask you this then. Would you agree or disagree with the statement of Islamic fundamentalists being the biggest threat currently; if it was made by some other figure, or perhaps a friend?

I say he only got it partially right...religion in general seems to be the world's greatest threat.

Beliefs are very powerful and are meant to be sustaining, offering one peace and hope. It's so ironic that when people start pushing beliefs on others they become very, very dangerous. And I find it bizarre that people are so insecure in the beliefs that they otherwise seem so passionate about that they feel the need to force others to conform to them.

As a Christian, this makes me very sad. I'm honestly ready to do away with all "religions" and look to my own heart.

[edit on 4/9/2010 by kosmicjack]

We can question his motives, but in essence I agree with him. Religious fundamentalism is certainly one of the biggest threats mankind is facing. And most dangerous form of fundamentalism currently comes from Islamic religion.

Originally posted by Parallex
Basically, Tony Blair is whipping up the general anti-Muslim sentiment that is festering in this country. He's not doing it because radicalism of any sort (an excellent point from you) is obviously dangerous, he's doing it because it specifically targets Muslims.

I'm probably one of the last people you'd describe as a ''Blairite'', but I have to ask whether you've got anything to back up your notion, or is it just a pre-conceived idea that you have ?

I think Tony Blair is genuinely deluded, and may well still believe that what he did was right.

I don't see him explicitly targeting Muslims per se, in fact, he makes a point of differentiating ''radical Islam'' from normal Muslims.

All fundamentalists and extremists are bad in my opinion, whether they be Muslim, Christian, Buddhist or atheist.


Also, what makes you say that his wife is a ''Muslim hater'' ?

I thought she was a supporter of Palestine ?

Originally posted by Maslo
And most dangerous form of fundamentalism currently comes from Islamic religion.

In what way ?

What's the difference between Islamic fundamentalism, and it's Christian, Buddhist, atheistic etc. counterparts ?

Check out this article and the picture, also anti war protestors have egged and thrown shoes at Blair.

Violent skirmishes broke out between protesters and police at the first public signing for Tony Blair's memoirs, with shoes and eggs hurled at the former prime minister.

Three men were arrested after they broke through a security barrier at around 10.45am today outside Eason's bookshop on O'Connell Street in Dublin, Ireland.

www.guardian.co.uk...
www.guardian.co.uk...

one needs to see the other side of the coin also...

busy yourself for 15 minutes including a 2:35 video, read this
chilling aspect of the Jewish people, their Rabbi's, their Gov't



the book: Torat Ha'Melech,

(two leading rabbis who endorsed the book, Dov Lior and Yaakov Yosef, were summoned to interrogations by the Shabak. However, the rabbis refused to appear at the interrogations, essentially thumbing their
noses at the state and its laws. And the government did nothing.
The episode raised grave questions about the willingness of the
Israeli government to confront the ferociously racist swathe of the
country's rabbinate. )



The controversy began when an Israeli tabloid panned the book's contents
as "230 pages on the laws concerning the killing of non-Jews, a kind of
guidebook for anyone who ponders the question of if and when it is
permissible to take the life of a non-Jew." According to the book's author
, Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira,
"Non-Jews are "uncompassionate by nature"
and should be killed in order to "curb their evil inclinations."

(hmmmm, and the radical islamics are worse?

the book by the Rabbi, also insists children are not to be spared,
just read the whole outrageous story...)

see: www.alternet.org...


Watch the video (link is above on 'alternet... page #2):

...in defense of Torat Ha'Melech, insisting at the August 18 convention n Jerusalem that the book was no different than the Hagadah that all Jews read from on the holiday of Passover.
The Hagadah contains passages
about killing non-Jews and so does the Bible, Yosef reminded his audience.
"Does anyone want to change the Bible?" he asked
[...]

"The obligation to sacrifice your life is above all others
when fighting those who wish to destroy the authority of the Torah,"
bellowed Rabbi Yehoshua Shapira...

lots of funding for these terror training camps ("yeshiva")
from both USA private groups & the Israeli coalition government under Netanyahu:

By refusing to cut Yosef loose, his party remains a central actor
in the Israeli government. Thus the statement by Netanyahu was not only weak.
It was false.

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I feel the need to expand on the point I was making earlier. Tony Blair, and people who share his ideals and goals, are far more dangerous to this planet, than any amount of C4 weilding nutters in fancy robes ever could be.
Oh sure, the extremists of any faith can arm up , and go on guerilla warfare binges which kill hundreds , of course they can, the evidence is everywhere. But when people the ilk of Blair and Bush, and all thier little yes men get thier guns out, tens of thousands die in days, infrastructure is laid to waste, the democratic process in the western world gets raped within an inch of its own existance, and pretty much everyone, wether on the end of a £20,000 missile or on the end of a mountain of war debt, gets crapped on from so far up, they think the sky is falling.
I think of the two, those being the Blairite crusaders , or the Muslim fundamentalist nutters, I would rather face a nutter with a bomb vest. At least you can fight those. Blair and his creatures are like shadows in an account book. Sure you can burn yer books, but all you get is a VAT bill thats higher than usual.

It's Blair and the other Western right-wing militants that are the biggest threat to the world. They're mostly armageddonists and coporate fascists that use military force to strongarm foreign nations who are unwilling to deal (essentially hand over their resources) with the greedy corporations.

Our little dysfuctional race has plenty of radicalism, and it's evident in all the religions and you can't blame an entire religion for the sins of their radical element and the same goes for any ethnicity or race within humanity.

Interesting how the U.S., with all the wars (and invasions and police actions) initiated since WWII, hasn't been able to "win" any of these wars - just keep them going and then proceed to permanently deposit a military presence in the region. I always think about what Eisenhower told the American people about the growing military industrial complex and that Star Trek eposide "Mirror, Mirror" when the evil Spock says "Terror must be maintained or the Empire is doomed".

BUT, the people can put an end to all this IF they have the will...YOU'RE the real power, not these filthy SOB's running the government or their corporate slave masters.

The Military Industrial Complex which Blaire is a major investor in, through the Carlysle Group along with the Bush and Bin Laden Family it's other principle, and principal investors remains the world's greatest threat.

As long as politicians like Blaire can financially profit off of war, they are always going to have a vested interest in manipulating perceptions for it, and play a political hand that radicalizes people into fighting them.

People willing to kill one another as a preferred means of solving their differences remain the world's number one problem.

They come in all stripes and shapes and sizes, just look in the mirror Tony!

There is your problem.

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You speak the truth. Look at Tony Blair - he's a lying murderer who give sweet talks in the disguise of "liberal" Christian and freedom.

This century is the most dirtiest. We're in an era where the slanderous evil murderers rant hatred time and again, when in fact they're the ones pulling the strings and spilling more blood.

Do not forget the names of leaders and countries who deceived the world into invading Iraq (after September 11 2001), torturing, raping and killing men, women and children.

It's not about being a radical #. The greatest threat today is ignorance and blind conviction.

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes

Originally posted by Maslo
And most dangerous form of fundamentalism currently comes from Islamic religion.

In what way ?

What's the difference between Islamic fundamentalism, and it's Christian, Buddhist, atheistic etc. counterparts ?

Islamic fundamentalism is currently far more dangerous and more widespread. When was the last time some christian/atheist/buddhist militant suicide-bombed a bus or marketplace? Ever heard of any christian/atheist/buddhist honor killings? Are any christian/buddhist immigrants causing problems and violence in western europe, like the muslim ones? Which religion treats women so bad as Islam? (maybe with the exception of Hinduistic religion, but they are not spreading to western world like muslims do).