Update! Officer challenging Obama's eligibility can't see evidence

reply to post by whatukno


An affidavit signed by a liar for a liar is still a lie........no getting around that. Seems maybe here latey someone has forgotten to take their politeness pills, do you really only come here to insult people, call people names, etc, or do you really have something to share, that's origional and not the left party line?Seems to be standard operating procedure for you nowadays.

i think this man is doing the right thing standing up for what he knows is right. if he didnt do as he beleived (which he is right to beleive so) then he would be in the wrong, as i would too as im a strong supporter of the US constitution. im glad that i got out right beofre he got sworn in. i remember all the officers and their outrage that a kenyan born man was ahead in the polls. also, here are some interesting articles you anti-berthers should see. it takes place close to the election time. dont look at it as "I told you so", but, as americans, we need to stand togather, please be educated and drop your pride.

we are in this corkscrew togather. look at these

www.theobamafile.com...
www.theobamafile.com...
www.theobamafile.com...

thats just a few scraps of proof with tons more out there. do your research, know the truth, and join the right side.

reply to post by rnaa


Really? The command to go to Afghanistan does not originate from the Oval office?

So what, now the military decides to go to war?

I see you are obfuscating the obvious. The president by being the head of the military, all orders originate from him. If he is not the lawful holder of the office, all orders given by the military are therefore unlawful.

You can obfuscate all you want, this is a fact.

reply to post by saltheart foamfollower

So what, now the military decides to go to war?

No, silly person.

The Congress decides to go to war.

Haven't you read your Constitution lately?

See especially Article 1 Section 8. It contains the following clauses (among others of course):

The Congress shall have power...

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

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Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
That would require Obama disproving it by presenting actual proof that he was born in Hawaii. McCain produced a birth certificate and he wasn't even born in the 50 states.

Can one birther tell me why you all just repeat lies in your quest for the truth? McCain did not produce a valid US birth certificate. In fact, McCain was not eligable to run for president until a decision was made by congress to DECLARE HIM ELIGABLE TO RUN.

You birthers will say anything, no matter how far removed from the truth it is in order to pretend to be looking for truth. What a complete joke.

In April, the Senate approved a nonbinding resolution declaring that Mr. McCain is eligible to be president. Its sponsors said the nation’s founders would have never intended to deny the presidency to the offspring of military personnel stationed out of the country.

I guess screw the constitution when "we know what they would have meant to say had they been smart enough to imagine a military." Now what is the difference between McCain and Obama that one can just be declared a NBC and the other one need not be? Work on it.



[edit on 6-9-2010 by cindyremains]

Originally posted by Mcintosh_gator1833
we are in this corkscrew togather. look at these

www.theobamafile.com...
www.theobamafile.com...
www.theobamafile.com...

thats just a few scraps of proof with tons more out there. do your research, know the truth, and join the right side.

Wow, if only Obama had 3 or 4 blog articles on his side, then there would be no question. All he has is his official documentation and the law on his side but you, you have 3 blogs. Go get 'em, tiger. Go on wit yer blogs and yer bad ass self.

reply to post by adifferentbreed

Seems maybe here latey someone has forgotten to take their politeness pills, do you really only come here to insult people, call people names, etc, or do you really have something to share, that's origional and not the left party line?Seems to be standard operating procedure for you nowadays.

Insult maybe, but I haven't called anyone names. I have called the entire "birther" movement a bunch of morons.

I figure, why be polite? I am only polite to people I actually like and respect. This does not include people who believe this total crap conspiracy theory.

Besides, how many times are the lot of you going to repeat the same lies and stupidity over and over again before you realize that it all has already been shot down?

Originally posted by vcwxvwligen

Originally posted by DEEZNUTZ
reply to post by vcwxvwligen

 

Why because I asked for proof from the Birther movement that Obama was not born in the US or that I smell a touch of racism from some of the birther movement.

I smell a guilty conscience on your part.

If you find "Get over it" offensive then I apologize but really I stand by my words. He's President, until the Birther movement can prove otherwise he will remain in office.

That would require Obama disproving it by presenting actual proof that he was born in Hawaii. McCain produced a birth certificate and he wasn't even born in the 50 states.

Q: Why would the GOP let this slide?

A: Because he was born in the state of Hawaii as proven by the neccessary Vetting required before even being allowed to run for office.

Damn it, there's that logic again.

Deez

What are these "vetting requirements?"


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I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I have no guilty conscience. Provide 1 single piece of proof that isn't a blog that Obama was born in another country.

Again I'll repeat for you incase you are a little slow to figure things out. Answer this for me if you could, why would Hilary, McCain or the GOP let this slide if it were true?

Don't tell me you actually think you're beloved Republican Party was in on this whole Kenya conspiracy.


Oh and if Google hits count as truth now I must be more famous than I thought.

Deeznutz
About 1,420,000 results (0.23 seconds)

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I'm sorry to burst your bubble but I have no guilty conscience. Provide 1 single piece of proof that isn't a blog that Obama was born in another country.

web.archive.org... ( The AP doesn't print things that are not backed by solid sources. )

Again I'll repeat for you incase you are a little slow to figure things out. Answer this for me if you could, why would Hilary, McCain or the GOP let this slide if it were true?

Your so gullible... Obama, Clinton, McCain, etc all realize who calls the shots around here. Obama used to work for the CIA. Obama is a CIA plant just as Hillary Clinton supports the same elite group. You wonder why Obama came out of nowhere to such popularity?? It's because he was a top CIA operative who was planted to further the efforts and lies of the CIA. It's a close knit group of families and friends that control everything. Most of the terrorism that exists today was created by the CIA to further their agenda in global control. The black market exists because the CIA wants it to exist funding their own black projects.

Don't tell me you actually think you're beloved Republican Party was in on this whole Kenya conspiracy.

No I think it's the same group that's been manipulating world politics and Americans for more then 50 years.

Oh and if Google hits count as truth now I must be more famous than I thought.

No your just naive and ignorant.. Bin Laden was a CIA operative at one point aswell.. Dr. Ali Kahn one oft eh 9/11 planners ALSO em,plyed by CIA and in FBI witness protection.. I was there before 9/11 during the planning stages and it was a CIA job.. Anyone who thinks sand loving arab muslims attacked America is living in a fantasy dreamland.. Enjoy the deception you've fallen for..

I believe Obama may be elligible for president sue to the fact his father was working for the CIA stationed in Kenya.. Otherwise Obama WOULD have been born in the USA. But at the same time his father was not a US citizen so.. The main reason this will never be touched upon is because Obama and CIA don't want you to know they planted him to control the country..
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Originally posted by Raphael

web.archive.org... ( The AP doesn't print things that are not backed by solid sources. )

Since when is the AP called the Sunday Standard?

Do you see the bottom where it says " -AP"

Sunday standard printed a story run by the associated press..





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Originally posted by Raphael
Do you see the bottom where it says " -AP"

Sunday standard printed a story run by the associated press...

Yes I do see that. I also see it in your post. Must be pretty easy to type those three characters out then. Let me give it a shot.

-AP

That was easy!

Where is the AP article from the AP?

reply to post by Raphael


Nevermind, I will find it for you.

June 26, 2004 Saturday
Final Edition

Illinois Senate candidate drops out of race;
Sex club charges left Ryan ‘a dead man walking’

BYLINE: MAURA KELLY LANNAN Associated Press

SECTION: INSIDE FRONT; Pg. A2

LENGTH: 456 words

CHICAGO — Illinois Senate candidate Jack Ryan dropped out of the race Friday amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days.

“It’s clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race,” Ryan, 44, said in a statement. “What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign — the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play.”

The campaign began to come apart Monday following the release of embarrassing records from Ryan’s divorce. In those records, his ex-wife, “Boston Public” actress Jeri Ryan, said Ryan took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans and tried to get her to perform sex acts with him while others watched.

Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one “avant-garde” club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable.

In quitting the race, Ryan lashed out at the media and said it was “truly outrageous” that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.

“The media has gotten out of control,” he said.

Top Illinois Republicans immediately began the work of selecting a new candidate. Their choice will become an instant underdog against Democratic state Sen. Barack Obama in the campaign for the seat of retiring GOP Sen. Peter Fitzgerald. Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.

“I feel for him actually,” Obama said on WLS-AM. “What he’s gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldn’t wish on anybody. Unfortunately, I think our politics has gotten so personalized and cutthroat that it’s very difficult for people to want to get in the business.”

Ryan had faced mounting pressure to quit from party leaders, who met several times in Washington this week to discuss whether the campaign could survive.

“He really was a dead man walking,” Gary MacDougal, former Illinois Republican Party chairman.

Ryan conducted an overnight poll to gauge his support. After reviewing the results, Ryan’s advisers told the candidate that the only way to survive would be wage an extremely negative and expensive response.

“Jack Ryan made the right decision. I know it must have been a difficult one,” said House Speaker Dennis Hastert of Illinois, who made his feelings known by canceling a fund-raising event scheduled for Thursday with Ryan.

During the primary, Ryan waved off rumors of damaging sex allegations in his sealed divorce records, assuring state officials there was nothing in the file to worry about.

But the Tribune and Chicago TV station WLS sued for the records’ release, and a California judge ordered them unsealed.

Hmmmm....what is missing from the original article?



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reply to post by Raphael


Youtube is fun

Originally posted by adifferentbreed
An affidavit signed by a liar for a liar is still a lie..

This is a true statement.... that means nothing. Unless you're accusing the Secretaries of State of all 50 states - liars. And if that's what you're doing, then you're going to have to provide more than your opinion.

Originally posted by Mcintosh_gator1833
thats just a few scraps of proof with tons more out there. do your research, know the truth, and join the right side.

Those aren't proof of anything. I HAVE done my research. I do know the truth. And there is no "right side". There is only truth. And I'm pretty sure you're not too familiar with that in this situation.

Originally posted by cindyremains
Hmmmm....what is missing from the original article?

These African papers saying that Obama was born in Kenya were discussed here on ATS a little while back. They were debunked as the original -AP article stated nothing about Obama being born in Kenya. It was apparently something the African journalists added themselves. Perhaps because of national pride or maybe they consider him "African born" since he had family from there.

Yes, YouTube is fun!

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Thanks that was kind of my point in asking raphael if he could find the original article for me instead of some re-print. I guess that was too challenging. The I posted the original article to show that it said nothing as was claimed it did in the hopes that some birther might then explain to me the coverup in play there. I guess they are re-teaming. Maybe Orly has a daily teleconference.

reply to post by Raphael


Yea, we already figured that one out a long time ago. Turns out there actually was a real AP article like that, except whoever in the Sunday Standard bastardized it and added the Kenyan Born part.



www.snopes.com...

By the way, this was busted LAST YEAR!

Post by shug7272

Oh My GOD! Why do we have to go through this with birthers? Can't you guys read threads and find out that everything about this stupid theory has been debunked several times!



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Raphael

How true about Soetoro being CIA. His mother, grandmother and stepfather all in the 'firm' apparently.
Wayne Madsen has just done an excellent piece.
But the Soetoro apologists just don't want to know.
Blinded by their demi-God and funnily enough being made the biggest fools of all because had they the slightest inkling of just what they are blindly and rather stupidly supporting they would be the first screaming from the roof tops.
Many of them are racists. Because he happens to be a little black, much arab and some half white - shall we say because he isn't a white male - he can do no wrong and anyone who dares to ask a single question or tells them the truth are abused and branded 'racist'.
They are the racists actually. but are too thick to understand that equation.
Its Americans like those who are giving the USA such a bad name, sadly.
They are so loud, bombastic, arrogant and 'right' when they are totally full of state induced propaganda and spewing it forth like robots. Classic examples of the 'useful idiot' syndrome.
That the USA has come to this.
Lets not forget the the CIA are the biggest drug traffickers on the planet, involved with terrorism across the globe - creating groups such as the Taliban, KLA and many more, almost certainly involved with mossad in attacking the USA itself.
Where are we going?

Originally posted by Emilymary
But the Soetoro apologists just don't want to know.
Blinded by their demi-God and funnily enough being made the biggest fools of all because had they the slightest inkling of just what they are blindly and rather stupidly supporting they would be the first screaming from the roof tops.

The reason you refuse to answer questions or acknowledge any facts you do not agree with is because you so open to the truth?

reply to post by dereks


How can he be Christian - when records show he was enrolled in an Indonesian school. To be enrolled in an Indonesian school you "have" to be a Muslim. My guess is he is Muslim first, and Christian when it is convenient - like becoming President.