Another oil rig explodes in gulf of mexico 9-2-10

Originally posted by Alien Mind

Originally posted by Better Mouse Trap
"DRILL BABY DRILL"-Republicans

It's easy to blame republican but the fact is that republican are not in power, democrats are. They are to blame for not enforcing the safety rules.

Well, that's some selective memory, isnt it?

First of all, seems to me the point of the quote was that the entire GOP keeps harping on the phrase "DRILL BABY DRILL". So it seems noteworthy to point that out when we have yet another oil drill 'accident' in the Gulf.

Secondly, your 'defense' of the Republicans isnt accurate. They are indeed to blame for not enforcing the safety rules of the former MMS. I mean, sure. let's blame the Democrats too. Absolutely. But to pretend that the GOP is not to blame? That's just patently absurd. Partisan tomfoolery.

Do we really have to discuss the GOP's connection to our country's energy policy, the closed-door meetings of Cheney that was DIRECTLY connected to the errors on the BP/Transocean rig? Really? Is your memory truly that selective?

It is only in the twisted logic of a partisan that you can defend the ills of one party by pointing out the ills of the other.

Originally posted by mirageofdeceit
Is this rig owned by a US company? If so, I will be watching w8ith interest to see Obamas reaction to the situation. I wonder if they'll force a US company to have to shell out $2 billion in clean-up costs?

Umm, BP is pretty-much an American company.

Originally posted by justadood

Originally posted by Alien Mind
darn you beat me to it by a couple of minutes. I fear this is going to give obama leaverge to place a longer ban on offshore drilling.

And would that be bad?

I mean, if we're concerned about these things from happening, then would addressing the cause be a bit constructive?

Banning offshore drilling is NOT the way to solve this. The whole reason that the BP pipeline was so hard to fix was because it was so deep and far from the shore. An offshore rig would've been much easier to fix, but rich idiots living on the beaches want the necessary evil of drilling for oil out of sight and out of mind. Unfortunately "out of sight and out of mind" is where these rigs are most dangerous.

Originally posted by justadood

Originally posted by mirageofdeceit
Is this rig owned by a US company? If so, I will be watching w8ith interest to see Obamas reaction to the situation. I wonder if they'll force a US company to have to shell out $2 billion in clean-up costs?

Umm, BP is pretty-much an American company.

With a newly appointed American CEO.

Originally posted by justadood

Originally posted by mirageofdeceit
Is this rig owned by a US company? If so, I will be watching w8ith interest to see Obamas reaction to the situation. I wonder if they'll force a US company to have to shell out $2 billion in clean-up costs?

Umm, BP is pretty-much an American company.

*Ahem* BRITISH Petroleum. Though I have no doubt an American company would've handled the situation just as well.

Originally posted by kallisti36

Originally posted by justadood

Originally posted by Alien Mind
darn you beat me to it by a couple of minutes. I fear this is going to give obama leaverge to place a longer ban on offshore drilling.

And would that be bad?

I mean, if we're concerned about these things from happening, then would addressing the cause be a bit constructive?

Banning offshore drilling is NOT the way to solve this. The whole reason that the BP pipeline was so hard to fix was because it was so deep and far from the shore. An offshore rig would've been much easier to fix, but rich idiots living on the beaches want the necessary evil of drilling for oil out of sight and out of mind. Unfortunately "out of sight and out of mind" is where these rigs are most dangerous.

That's not entirely true. In fact, it's a retread of a specific sara palin/GOP meme that 'environmentalists' 'forced' offshore rigs like the BP/Transocean one out that far and deep because they didnt want rigs too close to the shore.

That is PATENTLY FALSE, though, of course, since BP was drilling out there because thats where the oil is!.

Originally posted by kallisti36

Originally posted by justadood

Originally posted by mirageofdeceit
Is this rig owned by a US company? If so, I will be watching w8ith interest to see Obamas reaction to the situation. I wonder if they'll force a US company to have to shell out $2 billion in clean-up costs?

Umm, BP is pretty-much an American company.

*Ahem* BRITISH Petroleum. Though I have no doubt an American company would've handled the situation just as well.

Ahem: blogs.wsj.com...

It appears that 39% of the shares in the company are American owned (25% by U.S. pension funds and 14% by individual American investors). According to BP’s figures, 40% of the stock is owned in the U.K.

Here we go again...the writing is on the wall people. I think all these rig explosions and oil spills should set the fire under our government's butt to pass an energy plan so we can get off this outdated source of energy. You can tell how the oil companies don't want the public to lose faith in using oil as an energy source, by all the benefits of oil advertisements they've been televising.

Originally posted by Alien Mind

Originally posted by Better Mouse Trap
"DRILL BABY DRILL"-Republicans

It's easy to blame republican but the fact is that republican are not in power, democrats are. They are to blame for not enforcing the safety rules.

It's easy now to blame the Democrats, because this is happening under their watch, but let's not forget the fact that the Republicans were the ones who "RELAXED" the regulations to the point where the oil companies are the ones policing themselves....

Just stating fact, not picking sides!

Brothers and Sisters,

Why play the blame game?

We all need the oil. We all made the mess. We can all clean it up. We will ALL need to clean it up before it is all said and done. The problems we are facing are quickly out growing our current systems ability to fix. Wars, oil spills, hurricanes, earth quakes, and the Money system cannot handle it.

See my thread "Heaven" and let me know what you think

Your Brother.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 2-9-2010 by IAMIAM]

I say we need more oil in the gulf, more humans on the planet, and more corexit to spray on all of it (it hides everything you know!).

Heck, if we are lucky, we can completely wipe out those endangered pelicans. Just think of all the pollution they bring when they crap on the water.

[edit on 2-9-2010 by whatsup]

I don't have time to read thru 9 pages
but I would like to point out a connection
to both oil rig disasters.

BP sold some of their assets a while back
to Apache.

Guess who was already in a deal to
buy portions of this 2nd platform
when it exploded???

Apache !!!

Coincidence??? Afraid not !!!


[edit on 2-9-2010 by boondock-saint]

reply to post by Takamuri


Yeah you're right. It must be a coincidence aye. Those conspiracy nuts are just crazy. I mean, as if large corporations would do any of the things they are accused of. Surely mainstream news would tell us if they were up to no good.

reply to post by Xionmir


HMMMMMMMMMMMM. Your signature!

If I deny ignorance but don't look for the truth, what do i know?

So why not search for the truth? I've read too much on HAARP, but don't bookmark all the sites, to leave it out of the Equation!

So what DO you know?

From a friend that worked on production platforms from the photos the fire was in the living area and shop area of the rig.

The oil sheen is likely from protein foam firefighting agent.

protein foam = bio-degradable cows blood and soybean oil.
protein foams are harmless to the environment.

Originally posted by whatsup
I say we need more oil in the gulf, more humans on the planet, and more corexit to spray on all of it (it hides everything you know!).

Heck, if we are lucky, we can completely wipe out those endangered pelicans. Just think of all the pollution they bring when they crap on the water.

[edit on 2-9-2010 by whatsup]

You forgot more pollution (oh, wait a minute... you mentioned the gulf pelicans are taking care of that), more coal burning, more guns, more wars, more crack, more violence, more prostitution, more lying, stealing, cheating, more cosmetic surgery, more out of control celebrities, more arse banging clergy, more denouncing environmentalists, more pornography, more corrupt politicians, more gangs, more Sarah Palinisms, more Harvard trained 'Enron' types to steal our hard-earned money, more tele-vangelists stealing money from the feeble minded, more religious intolerance, more hate, more 'we are holier than thou' attitudes, more bling, more botox, more viagra ads, more and larger buffets, more off shore drilling, more and bigger houses, cars and behinds, more Oprah's / Jerry Springers / Rush Limtards, more "keeping up with the Joneses", more of this, more of that, MORE, MORE, MORE and much more......

Hey wait a minute, America's got all that and plenty to spare! We're eating up scarce resources faster than you can say "we're going into Iraq to free the people / liberate their Oil ////// Mission Accomplished". Hell, let's just blow the frickin' planet up right now and be done with it...... Man, do we live in great country or what?

Fortunately for you, unfortunately for me..... I have to stop, I'm running out of e-ink....

reply to post by Better Mouse Trap


I second that. They are drilling too deep, and now they are encountering methane hydrate condensates. Is this not the site where the Dinosaur ending meteor hit? Perhaps the geology of that epic event has something to do with our uneducated drilling efforts?
Just asking...

I find the timing interesting since the administration was just handed a rejection of their drilling ban yesterday. Hm, next day another explosion? Curious.

Sooooo, did their blowout preventer worked? That is the main question. Can someone please answer this.
In the end it does not matter because the Deep Horizon Well released so much crude oil that it will kill everything in sight. Then you add Corexit to hide and sink it, then you are cluster effed. What a sad day indeed. Keep on driving your Fords, Chevys, and Pontiacs. Just move closer to work? Pressure your employers to find a house or apartment nearby for you. Do something, otherwise your children and granchildren will not find a drop of clean water withhout oil sheen.

Think about it....

Originally posted by Alien Mind

Originally posted by Better Mouse Trap
"DRILL BABY DRILL"-Republicans

It's easy to blame republican but the fact is that republican are not in power, democrats are. They are to blame for not enforcing the safety rules.

So let me get this straight,

1. From 2000-2008 Bush and his fellow Republicans do everything they can to erode environmental regulations and push for oil drilling everywhere from the oceans to our national parks

2. Obama takes office 1/01/2009

3. 16 months later the worst environmental disaster in US history occurs due to the aforementioned erosion of environmental regulation pushed by the Republicans

And finally,

4. YOU want me to believe it's not fair to blame the Republicans because they "are not in power, democrats are."

Man...your logic is so flawed and distorted that I am not even going to waste my time pointing it out to you. Oops, too late.