Before the beginning of everything, there was just an awareness

Originally posted by heyJude
Nothingness is hard to imagine.

Most people think "darkness", but it's not.

Darkness is something.

Think before you were born, that was nothing.

Nothingness and nothing are very different when it comes to existence.

Nothingness is absolute darkness, because that is how we would observe it.

"Nothing" can't be anything. Because if it was it wouldn't be Nothing, it would be something.

What physical dimension would Nothing have?

Nothing can't have a a physical dimension. Nothing is used to explain with words to others, that we dont have a physical object. But that does not mean that the object doesn't exist, its just that you dont have it.





[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

Our five senses are ruled by something and nothing.
you take away our vision, taste, hearing, touch and smell... all you have is just an awareness.

Originally posted by saabacura
You take away our vision, taste, hearing, touch and smell... all you have is just an awareness.

Um, no.

If you take away our senses, we have no awareness.

Why's that so hard to understand?

Originally posted by saabacura
What do you guys think of this.
Before the beginning of everything... there was just an awareness.
I feel that an Awareness... is not something and nothing. cannot be quantified.

I think you have mistakenly assumed that time only goes in one direction, from the past, through the present, and into the future. If you let go of that unfounded assumption, then you may see that everything continues to exist and expand in all directions and dimensions, and awareness keeps it going.

Originally posted by heyJude

Originally posted by saabacura
You take away our vision, taste, hearing, touch and smell... all you have is just an awareness.

Um, no.

If you take away our senses, we have no awareness.

Why's that so hard to understand?

What about thoughts and dreams?

Originally posted by saabacura
What do you guys think of this.
Before the beginning of everything... there was just an awareness.
I feel that an Awareness... is not something and nothing. cannot be quantified

I don't think I can agree with this.

Awareness is an extremely sophisticated level of physical existence. As information (which is what it is) awareness contains an incredible amount of contextual density, and that level of integrated and specifically weighted informational composition doesn't simply gather from a void. Intellect - which is what awareness is - is the result of a very substantial progression of development, and to suggest that this awareness existed without any need for that development to occur is to fall back into the 2,000 year old default position of "In the beginning was the Word..."

Nope. I don't buy it.

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..the begining created consciousness...
..Conciusness=Alpha and Omega ...the begining and the End...
..conciusness=Memory..
..I will see you through time..

Originally posted by 547000

Originally posted by heyJude
Um, no.

If you take away our senses, we have no awareness.

Why's that so hard to understand?

What about thoughts and dreams?

It's arguable that we do have senses in dreams.

And, you can only dream after you've experienced some form of stimuli. That's why dreams are very basic when you're an infant, and become more elaborate as you get older.

Maybe in the beginning... there no something, and no nothing.

In the beginning, it was just it

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Why can't you have dreams before you've experienced stimuli? Isn't it the scientific consensus that dreams are just random neurons firing of the brain?

Suppose you had a brain but none of the senses that go with it. Will it be possible to dream up the senses?


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Originally posted by 547000
reply to post by heyJude

 

Why can't you have dreams before you've experienced stimuli? Isn't it the scientific consensus that dreams are just random neurons firing of the brain?

Suppose you had a brain but none of the senses that go with it. Will it be possible to dream up the senses?


[edit on 3-9-2010 by 547000]

That's like asking whether or not a blind person from birth can see in his dreams.

The answer is no, they do not see, because they had not yet experienced sight in waking life.

I hope that answers your question.

Originally posted by Vonour
reply to post by saabacura

 

..the begining created consciousness...
..Conciusness=Alpha and Omega ...the begining and the End...
..conciusness=Memory..
..I will see you through time..

No, the consciousness created the beginning.

Originally posted by heyJude

Originally posted by 547000
reply to post by heyJude

 

Why can't you have dreams before you've experienced stimuli? Isn't it the scientific consensus that dreams are just random neurons firing of the brain?

Suppose you had a brain but none of the senses that go with it. Will it be possible to dream up the senses?


[edit on 3-9-2010 by 547000]

That's like asking whether or not a blind person from birth can see in his dreams.

The answer is no, they do not see, because they had not yet experienced sight in waking life.

I hope that answers your question.

Yea, the blind person may not dream like us... But he/she is still aware.