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Can We Undo What We Learned, To Start A New Path?

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posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 02:17 AM
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If we CANNOT unlearn what we have learned, how can we tell the difference between true and false?

If our brains have already been shifted, taught, used. When reality is supposed to set in, how do we know that we have finally got it right? What would cause us as a planet to stand as one, and say NO! This is false, and we will not stand under (understand), what is presented before us.

How can a planet survive, when our sense of reality is distorted? And if our perception is supposed to "awaken" us, how will we know that we are not still asleep.

Humans today fight, argue, kill over disagreements, over falsehoods, that could otherwise with a consensus be realized. Why would we them assume that our species would survive with the nonsensical affairs between the "haves and have-not's" or the "knowledgeable and the non"?

Would it take for the planet to otherwise divide itself, between the 2, and one would survive as the others don't? Due to sheer lack of that knowledge? Or would it, could it be an easier task?

Could it be as easy, as having the planet (or most people) agree on one particular subject as opposed to us fighting over everything? Could the evolutionary scale be as simple as an agreement? Without thinking their is a judging process, of believers or non, or people that believe in Aliens/E.T.

Could just the mire thought amongst the masses be survival that can get us to the next level? We are currently faced with hard time (though there's been harder), and now there is a possibility that we hold the future in our hands.

What do we do with that burden? Do we ignore it? Fight over it? Compare notes? Or come together for the simple, the easy, the way.

We have the means, we have the minds, we have the right to survive, and I for one do not want to leave that in the hands of others. Been there, done that. What if we looked at history (his-story), and actually learned, not just from the mistakes, but used it as a map to getting it right, to seeing what didn't work, and move on from that.

Take all the leading writers of our time (the real ones), those that have shaped where we are today, whether good or bad, and set the path, and follow our own direction for once, took the drivers seat, instead of wanting the first one to call shotgun.

BTW, I wrote about the real writers being as I recently found out that William Shakespeare may have not written what is claimed, and it may have been Sir Francis Bacon. Still looking into that though.

Anyway, thanks for listening, and please share your thoughts, this isn't a copy and paste type of thread, this is more about how you feel in your heart about our surrounding, and what you feel is important, or a way to make things better

Peace to you all, NRE.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 02:25 AM
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I'm not quite sure where you're headed here.

If I take away all that I've learned then I am right back to being an infant, mentally speaking.

Did I pick up some biases along the path of learning? I am positive that I did. I think it is an unavoidable side effect of perception. Personally I try to exercise responsibility in this regard by admitting to myself and to anyone that I interact with on any meaningful level that I accept and understand that I may be in possession of these biases and that I do work to overcome them when they are pointed out.

Occasionally I encounter people who confuse bias with heartfelt opinion - that's just the way the game works. I am not biased because I do not like the taste of cottage cheese - and it's not that I did not give cottage cheese a chance. I just think it tastes bad. But I do respect the right of others to think that it tastes good.

All in all I don't like the idea of unlearning what I've learned because, in the end, all of these little opinions and biases speak to the core of who I am as an individual. They define me. And I am rather fond of myself.

But even that is a bias!



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 02:35 AM
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I mean that we should at some point and definitively on certain aspects go back to a time, where what we were taught doesn't cloud our judgment, as allot of what we were taught have sometimes no relevance to today.

Just because we were taught, doesn't make it so all the time. We shouldn't be so afraid, to sometimes realize that the things we were told have no relevance, or are out dated, just take the time to see, look, research, and trust what is going on today, as opposed to just saying we know.

Peace to you.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 04:34 AM
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If we CANNOT unlearn what we have learned, how
can we tell the difference between true and false?


If you start with a false initial premise, how can you subsequently jump to a total non-sequitor?



When reality is supposed to set in, how do we know
that we have finally got it right?


There are perspectives on this thing you call "reality" for which that question is kind of meaningless. How does a painter painting a portrait know when his painting is "right?" Is there any fundmental "rightness" upon which to decide? Or is it just, when the painter decides he's done?



How can a planet survive, when our sense of reality is distorted?


How can a squirrel survive, while its fleas are hemorrhaging?

Oh, by "world" you don't mean planet earth? Ok. What do you mean? Do you mean..."our current way of living?" Well, when our view of reality changes, that will change too. But why is that a problem? The invention of the telephone changed our way of life too. Was that so traumatic?



Humans today fight, argue, kill over disagreements, over falsehoods,
that could otherwise with a consensus be realized. Why would we them
assume that our species would survive with the nonsensical affairs
between the "haves and have-not's" or the "knowledgeable and the non"?


You ask many questions. May I suggest that instead of seeking answers...you seek better questions?



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 04:55 AM
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Thank you for the suggestion, but my questions seemed to be sufficient for me.

Though you may not have agreed with my line of questioning, then thats ok.

Peace.



posted on Aug, 29 2010 @ 07:14 AM
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The nature of forward development is identity establishment, defense and then proselytization. That involves competition, and competition is the essence of evil. There isn't much to be done about competition in the corporeal realm, since it's integral to the survival of that realm.

A firend of mine once wrote a song called "The War is Over". It's about a young woman he knew who was bitter and angry about how the world is, and how she battled against the injustices that she knew to exist around her. It was a war that was eating her alive from day to day and moment to moment, and one that she began to see was unwinnable due to how the enemy shifted with each victory. Not the enemy's position or tactics, but the enemy's identity. That's what shifted with each victory. The prey became the predator, and vice versa. It was a war against a concept. Like this war on terror that the US thinks it's fighting.

The war for this woman was finally won when she realized that competition is the enemy she was fighting, and she was feeding it as she succumbed to its influence in her own life. She became the enemy when she fought the enemy, and each victory was a victory for competition, and not a victory against it. After all, victory is the aim of competition, regardless of which side wins. As soon as she laid down her arms and walked away from the battlefield, her war was over and peace reigned in her land. She won against competition by refusing to be a slave to it.

Yes, the battle raged on without her, but she was no longer viscerally connected to that battle and all the ugliness associated with it. She'd ended her war, and could now live in peace.

The song was okay, but I appreciated the thought behind it. You'll be in the corporeal realm for (probably) another half century. After that, it's forever, and you'll be left with the whole of what you've crafted of yourself. I'm working on crafting a good version of myself, and letting the war have its own fun. It's hard to let it be at times, but there's too much to lose by allowing other people's agendas and competitions to hijack my only chance at getting this right.



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