9-11-01 War Games - Who was in overall military command?

This is just for a simple answer, as per the thread title. Please elaborate more if you know more, and detail what organizations were involved. I would also like to know the Operation name (if possible), and just what the war game objective was on that day. Please let me know if it has been reported in an official source online (major newspaper, credible blog, etc.). I'm just compiling information, and would like some help from anyone who is willing.

I've heard that there were war games, but I've never seen anything more specific than just stating that they were going on at the time.

reply to post by Yog-Sothoth


Hi, I just did a quick search and found this article

www.historycommons.org.../11=militaryExercises&timeline=complete_911_timeline

where it says one exercise which was taking place on that day was called Global Guardian, and that as part of the exercise three National Airborne Operations Center planes were in the air at the time.

There's a lot more info in the document on military exercises and movements which were taking place.

Hope it's of some use!



[edit on 28-8-2010 by wcitizen]

reply to post by Yog-Sothoth


Here is a link, where the information is easy accessible.
they-let-it-happen.blogspot.com...

[edit on 28-8-2010 by Drunkenshrew]

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reply to post by Yog-Sothoth


this guy:


the guy sitting in a chair at an elementary school classroom. his response was very quick. [/sarcasm]

[edit on 28-8-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]

reply to post by Yog-Sothoth


abeldanger.net has a mountain of information you might be interested in. If i'm following the story correctly through this site; Timothy Garden (a brit) was the person who was the think tank behind "operation guardian"

Originally posted by Yog-Sothoth

I've heard that there were war games, but I've never seen anything more specific than just stating that they were going on at the time.

You really should read "Crossing the Rubicon" by Michael Ruppert, he really does go in to a extensive account of all the war games/exercises that were, and might have been going on.

Just off the top of my head:

TRIPOD 2:

You had Tripod, which was the Bio Terror exercise in Manhattan that the participants began showing up and setting up shop the day before 9/11 to begin the exercise on the 12th. They conveniently moved the normally WTC7 city emergency center over to the bio terror center on 9/11.

NORTHERN VILIGANCE:

Then you had the Northern Vigilance exercises with Russia, planned out over Canada on 9/11. These were famously canceled by the Russians after news of the attacks. This was the game that was supposedly going to involve fake radar blips.

VILLIGANT WARRIOR:

Probably the least known, but most important, is the war game taking place that day called Villigant warrior, that even Richard Clarke talked about, which apparently had a real commercial type aircraft simulating a wondering hijack aircraft.

NRO EXERCISE:

Then you also have the NRO exercise(the name I don't think has ever been released as far as I know), which was famously confirmed by the actual employee over a live dc local TV station. This one is interesting b/c it involved a supposedly malfunctioning jet that took off out of Dulles, crashing into their headquarters. Again coincidentally, F77 took off out of Dulles, and then flew almost directly above the NRO headquarters as it went to its impact location at the Pentagon.

NORTHERN GUARDIAN
NORTHERN DENIAL

These are the most notable war games, there was also Northern Guardian, and Northern Denial. So if your keeping track that's at least six war games/exercises that were about to or were taking place on that dreaded day.




[edit on 28-8-2010 by PersonalChoice]

If I recall correctly, Dick (Pen15) Cheney was in charge of the war games. I will look for that.

reply to post by wcitizen


So with 3 of those operation planes in the air, thats just makes the case of their failure even, even worse. Wow. Or their success

reply to post by PersonalChoice

NORTHERN VILIGANCE:

Then you had the Northern Vigilance exercises with Russia, planned out over Canada on 9/11.

You are right about Northern Vigilance that was proven true but the US was only monitoring the Russians while the Russians were playing their war games.
However there was no information on any of the other war games [color=gold]days before the 911 attacks that was release before 911. All the information about the other war games were released [color=gold]way after 911.

Fact, military officials, always informs the Press before they are going to do their war games over any American city. The reason they inform the Press and local city governments are so, people won’t panic during these military exercises. However, for the first time in US history the military never released any information to the public or the Press. Oh, there is plenty of information about all of these alleged war games [color=gold]way after 911.
My opinion is there were no war games in the US, this is something that was cooked up by top military brass and certain members in the Bush administration to try and explain why there were no US interceptors dispatched to intervene the alleged hijacked planes. (mass confusion) Anyone that can find any information of all of these alleged war games [color=gold]BEFORE 911 took place,then be my guest.

Please show where any local government and local News outlets were informed of these "five war games" days [color=gold]before 911.

TRIPOD 2:

NRO EXERCISE:

VILLIGANT WARRIOR:

NORTHERN GUARDIAN
NORTHERN DENIAL

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reply to post by PersonalChoice


Let's get this right folks, too much garbage info about NORAD's war games over NYC on 9-11. There were none. If you disagree, by all means, please speak up! Don't throw your opinions at me. Post, with links, factual evidence dated PRIOR TO 9-11-2001, that shows war games were scheduled for 9-11 in NYC. Again, do not waste our time posting info that is dated 9-11-2001 or later.

No war games over NYC on 9-11 say I, and here are two pieces of REALITY to back me up.

Operation Vigilant Warrior
14 Oct-21 Dec 1994

Since Desert Storm, Third Army has responded five times to contingency requirements to deploy, command, control and support major Army forces to deter Iraqi adventurism. Each operation underscored the need for vigilance and quick response and reinforced the value of pre-positioned equipment and limited forward presence in offsetting the strategic time/distance challenges inherent in winning the "race for Kuwait."

As of 31 December 1991 USCENTAF had about 5,000 personnel and 80 aircraft still assigned in the AOR. This number continued to drop during 1992. By the middle of that year, about 3,500 USCENTAF personnel remained in the AOR.

www.globalsecurity.org...

NORAD Maintains Northern Vigilance

Sept. 9, 2001

CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN AFS, Colo. – The North American Aerospace Defense Command shall deploy fighter aircraft as necessary to Forward Operating Locations (FOLS) in Alaska and Northern Canada to monitor a Russian air force exercise in the Russian arctic and North Pacific ocean.

“NORAD is the eyes and ears of North America and it is our mission to ensure that our air sovereignty is maintained,” said Lieutenant-General Ken Pennie, Deputy Commander-in-Chief of NORAD. “Although it is highly unlikely that Russian aircraft would purposely violate Canadian or American airspace, our mission of vigilance must be sustained.”

NORAD-allocated forces will remain in place until the end of the Russian exercise.

NORAD conducted operation Northern Denial from December 1 to 14, 2000 in response to a similar, but smaller scale, Russian deployment of long-range bombers at northern Russian air bases. NORAD-allocated forces were deployed to three FOLS, two in Alaska and one in Canada. More than 350 American and Canadian military men and women were in involved in the deployment.

www.norad.mil...

Who was in charge? The intelligence community. Contractors became super rich right off the bat after 9/11.

Feds became more powerful. Now we're turning into a third world country b/c of all of this terrorism.

Or as messed up as it sounds, it could have been a computer running the simulations. I'm pretty sure everybody on here knows that the US has been flying planes with a remote for decades. Maybe a computed somewhere forgot that it was just a simulation.

The first people to look to would be the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

I too am curious who specifically arranged all these wargames to overlap this particular day.

Especially since one of the wargames had already been reported as being scheduled for October, like it usually is every year, and then some time during the summer it was apparently bumped up to occur on 9/11.

Originally posted by truthcounts
Post, with links, factual evidence dated PRIOR TO 9-11-2001, that shows war games were scheduled for 9-11 in NYC.

This is a straw-man. The war games happened in various places spread across the East Coast.

FEMA, along with the OEM and Rudy Giuliani's office, were the only ones I know of specifically in Manhattan, on September 10th, preparing for TRIPOD II which was supposed to be a bio-terror exercise. Instead they used the command post they set up for what happened on 9/11. Just look up "TRIPOD II" and you can find scans of the cover of FEMA's pamphlet for it and everything.

The NRO conducted a drill outside of DC that morning simulating a plane flying into their HQ building. As soon as they learned a real plane had hit the Pentagon (allegedly), they sent everyone home.

Other war games simulated hijackings, putting false blips on radar and the like, and that was for the East Coast in general. In fact all we know is that THERE WERE A NUMBER OF WARGAMES. We don't even know the exact number and nature of all of them because the way this information was initially released was through scattered media reports and only very little information was released about them by the US military itself.

reply to post by Myendica


Newsflash, US military aircraft normally do not carry live weapons in the US. Especially for war games.

reply to post by VirginiaRisesYetAgain


Noboby "specifically" arranged them. And no one person was in charge of them. Units/commands of the US military are running war games/exercises ALL the time. Someone at the Pentagon, MIGHT know they are going on, but thats it. My unit has run three exercises in the last ninety days and have two more to run in the next two months, and only ONE of them is being authorized by someone in Washington....and that would be the Inspector General.

reply to post by Yog-Sothoth


You asked for a simple answer so , here it is .

This link will be exactly what you are looking for .

www.historycommons.org.../11=complete_911_timeline_training_exercises

Click on Training Exercises in the right-hand column .

[edit on 29-8-2010 by okbmd]

reply to post by vipertech0596


So being a military guy, you don't find it at all strange that(as far as we know and were told) not a single military fighter aircraft was able to put his own eyes on f77 or f93?

Originally posted by MAJESCOTT
reply to post by Yog-Sothoth

 

abeldanger.net has a mountain of information you might be interested in. If i'm following the story correctly through this site; Timothy Garden (a brit) was the person who was the think tank behind "operation guardian"

i recommend watching the three videos Pattern of Crimes, Signs and Times....

first one here (look at left sidebar for the other two)

Pattern of the Crimes

Originally posted by PersonalChoice
reply to post by vipertech0596

 

So being a military guy, you don't find it at all strange that(as far as we know and were told) not a single military fighter aircraft was able to put his own eyes on f77 or f93?

When noone knew for sure where they were and noone had told the USAF about them, then no, it doesn't seem that odd.

Although it should be pointed out that AA77 was observed by a Minnesota Air National Guard C-130 during its final seconds of flight.

Originally posted by PersonalChoice
reply to post by vipertech0596

 

So being a military guy, you don't find it at all strange that(as far as we know and were told) not a single military fighter aircraft was able to put his own eyes on f77 or f93?

Let's analyze this claim. The US has 3537441 square miles of territory. Althought the actual range that the rada of modern fighter aircraft is classified, estimates are around 125 miles. Take 3537441 and divide it by 125 and you see the US will need 28299 fighter aircraft would need to be up in the sky simultaneously to see every nook and cranny of the US. Presuming an average of four hours per patrol, the US will need 141,495 aircraft to patrol every section of the US 24 hours a day, which is the only physical way it can be guaranteed that "a single fighter aircraft would be able to put his own eyes on F77 or F93". So how many fighter aircraft does the US have?

Yeah, you can modify this so that not *every* nook and cranny is covered, but then you're only showing your own question to be rubbish becuase before and even during 9/11 noone had any idea where the flights were going to be hijacked, where they were heading, or where they had crashed. This is what the US had been doing- watching the US coasts and borders for incoming enemy craft (as well as the omnipresent drug smuggler) while pmistakenly presuming that enemy aircraft wouldn't suddenly materialize in the interior. Even if they had better coverage over D.C. they wouldn't have have had the same coverage out over rural Pennsylvania.

Were you genuinely interested on why "not even a single fighter aircraft put his own eyes on F77 or F93" or is this just a dishonest attempt on your part at dropping innuendo?