What would life for a person be like if he/she didnt have a job?

reply to post by the dacoit


Isn't working a job a different kind of survival? To anwser this question all you'd have to do is look at our ancestors or your retirement? What do you see yourself doing when you retire. Me, if I had all the ammeneties taken care of. I would probably just go travel for as long as possible and just know that I have a home/place to return to.

It's all relative, and has to do with self respect.
Some people would love nothing more than to veg out all day and mooch off society without experiencing any guilt whatsoever because their sense of entitlement is in overdrive. These people are morally bankrupt. with their me, me me attitude.

Others do the best job they can, whether they like
their job or not.

How's the saying go?
If you love what you, you'll never have to work a day in your life.

Not having to work and just having a steady amount of infinite cash would be just great! I would constantly be traveling around the globe! Visiting the worlds most famous restaurants and theme parks. I would also have a real job if i wanted extra money to buy a house or something.

just this person doesnt have a job or everyone?
i think life without any neccesary jobs would kind of be brilliant. as well as no monetary system . you would have total freedom do, go anywhere you wish sure with no money you would have to bargain with others probably .
everyone would be on level ground. of course some fields would still be treated like a real job but you could choose your luxureys to say,

I have had the priviledge of know, personally, some very wealthy people in my life. Without fail, they offer the same advice for anyone who comes into a situation where they do not have to work.... take a year to do nothing. Play, go on a cruise, be crazy. Then when you have it out of your system, come back and *do* something.

I think the same is true, even if you are just surviving. DO something. Humans are wired to be productive.

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I am about ready to find out.

My job has been outsourced to "Team India". As of this Tuesday at 5:00 PM I will be a free woman

Free at last, free at last, thank god almighty I'm free at last.

My shackles have been cut and I can see the sunlight.

What will I do to fill my time.

1st off I've been working since my mother died when I was 10.

I was told two weeks after my mother died of lung cancer that "Nobody gets a free lunch, you will take care of babies, clean the house, babysit other people's kids to bring in money and clean three houses on Saturday (ten bucks each) to help support my living expenses". (I got two dollars each week after I handed over what I earned.

I have worked for 48 years............being told what to wear, when to pee, how much I have to output, go faster, make fewer mistakes, be polite even if someone is frapping on you, etc, etc........

Nope as of this Tuesday that part of my life is done with, over, past and behind me.

I will garden, get my house in order, (really reoganize, scrub, clean and dust everything thoughly) and read, surf the internet and learn how to repair stuff around my house. I'm going to learn how to do "man stuff" like hang doors, repair holes in walls, refinish my wood floors, change the oil in the car, mow the law, learn how the lawn mower works, find out how a car works, etc.

If I want to take a nap at noon I will.

No more having to eliminate my bodily waste with someone else sitting right next to me. I will have complete privacy while going to the bathroom.

I can read any crazy titled book I want and not have anyone know or judge me by what I choose to read.

No more stupid corporate meetings.

No more having to put up with incompetent, bullying managers.

I will get to know my neighbors more, I'm lucky everyone that lives around me is very nice.

I will be able to just go where I want to when I want to. No more phony smiles to snakes in suits (read the book).

No more having to adhere to a stupid corporate dress code.

It's jeans and tees everyday from here on out folks.

No more having to put up with a bipolar boss who acts exactly like the Red Queen in Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland.

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No more always being watched, monitored, evaluated and made to feel like a bad dog.

No more being told when to go to sleep, when to wake up, when I am allowed to eat and when I can go home, no more being pressured to do more than humanly possile to do.

No more having to have others try to push day in and day out their primitive religious mindsets upon me.

I already know how to paint so I'm going to paint inside too.

Get my gardens ready for next year's veggies, herbs and flowers.

I've already got them planned. Sunflowers and lavender to begin with, the plants are coming in another week so I've got to get busy and get the flower beds ready.

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No more having to deal with ruthless, backstabbing jerky people, nope my time will be my own and I can choose the people I deal with.

While my husband will have to continue to work, I will do my part and pay the bills, laundry, clean, cook and shop.

I will write, paint, make pottery and jewelry, explore mixing perfume oils and make my own unique scents.

I've never been a slacker, I've always pulled my own weight but this time, from Tuesday at 5:00 PM Central Time on it will be, for the first time in my life, on my own terms.

Free at last, free at last, thank god almighty I will be free at last.

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My time will truely be my own and I will have privacy.

I will volunteer more time to the homeless shelter and maybe even an animal sanctuary.

I don't need to travel, I like right where I'm at. I don't need fancy jewelry or clothes, or fancy foods (I'm a really good cook) and once my vegetable and herb garden crops come in this time next year, wow I will be able to learn to can stuff too!)

We've watched our finances, we are almost debt free due to having been very prudent with our spending.

My only vice is books, but now I will have time to go to the used book stores too!

Free at last, free at last, thank god almighty I am free at last.


[edit on 28-8-2010 by ofhumandescent]

reply to post by the dacoit


If I didn't have a job I would be out volunteering my time to help others. I would read and travel, that is if I were wealthy

I know people who don't work and they get bored and many get into a depression because they have nothing to do after a certain amount of time. I know people who retired and after 6mths got a part time job cause they were bored.

Originally posted by acegotflows
I'm on disability and I haven't worked in 2 1/2 years. I'd rather b doing something better with my time. I read a lot, watch documentaries and basically spend my time trying to feel better about my life. I would like to start my own businessof some srt. Got about 8k saved, but with this economy, I don't know...

figure out what you are good at and then check the phone book to
see if there are a lot of businesses like what you have in mind.

If there is call a few and get fake estimates and see what they
are charging.

If you think can undercut most of them or delivery higher quality
then you can do it, but it will take time to build up business.

Organic produce is in high demand at local farmers markets.

Check out you local one and see what is missing or in high demand
and then fill that niche and make a few bucks.

Good Luck !!!

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I think you summed it up in words better than I could have. Many of us can relate to what you said. Love your post, even complete with pictures. Best wishes, on your new life.

I don't have a paid job, and haven't for years. I work at home, from morning till night and I rarely get a chance to sit down. I grow all my own veggies every summer to last through out the year. I shop very frugally and wisely. I cook everything from scratch. I make my own laundry soap, shampoo, etc. Do all my own home repairs myself. There's not too many things I don't do. That's how we manage to live comfortably on one income. If I had to get a paid job, I would really miss being able to do what I do at home. I can never just sit and watch tv all day long. In fact, the tv does not get turned on at all during the day. I am always on the go doing something. Even if I had an endless amount of money, I don't think I would change a thing.

Originally posted by ExPostFacto
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If all the jobs were automated, and a person had the ability to do anything that interested them, I would think groups of people would work together on projects. Actors would entertain. Painters would give away art. Engineers would design things for entertainment and higher standards of living. Life would become a lot more enjoyable to me as there wouldn't be a need to tax people. Everyone in this world has something to bring to the table to make all of our lives more enjoyable.

Let me ask you this. If you could pursue any interest you have, would you do it for yourself or to show other what you could do and allow them to enjoy what it is you would enjoy doing?

This. I believe a jobless society would bring out the creativity in all of us.
I wouldn't mind never having to work at all. Traveling and seeing the world provides temporary happiness, sure, but the only thing that can actually provide lasting contentedness is our creativity an ingenuity. Money shouldn't be the only incentive to create new things.

Being an amateur musician myself, I would never get bored with my craft. There's always room for improvement and refinement. I believe people should create mainly for self satisfaction, but it's always great if others appreciate what you're doing as well

[edit on 7-9-2010 by AlphaZero]

Originally posted by the dacoit
so i was just pondering this question, i would say most of the people in the world dont like the work or job they are currently doing, and i have heard majority of the people i have ever talked to that they hate their job. So i was just thinking, and even putting myself in the situation, what if i didn't have to work and had everything else, house, food, entertainment etc...and interestingly , i felt that if i didnt have anything to do and life would be like a paradise, i would actually go crazy. I mean how many years non stop can i JUST workout, play video games or read books, or even do gardening. I guess a job provides enough challenges for me t stay content and whine at the same time?

so anyway, what is your opinion, what would personally happen to you? and i mean actually put yourself in that situation, no job. no hassle and everything you ever wanted in terms of personal entertainment.


P.S i think that our ancestors were too busy surviving that they didnt really have time to even think there would be a generation like ours, where basically everything from food to clothing, to shelter are handed on a silver platter. so probably its that urge that makes me want to think that life without a job would suck?

i do have no job,but have evrything else
been keeping it up for 3 years now
and i DO miss work actually
it always gives me a good feeling,i miss that,and also u get alot of down talk when u dont work
i do have a few thing i do but its like it doesnt count

reply to post by the dacoit

I think you have a rather good grasp of the situation.
People who "don't like work" are probably just using that as some sort of excuse.
The flip side of the whole question is: What would life be like if no one worked (produced anything)?
Where would you get those games you like to play, or the books you like to read, or the house you live in, or the food you eat?
"Work" is needful if one wants his or her group to survive. Work is pointless if it has no logical connection to group survival. But most work does.

Some people love to work and some don't. But work is needful and it actually gives many people a purpose that they otherwise wouldn't have.
I've been unemployed for 2 years now, but I work anyway, doing mostly things I like to do, even though I don't get paid for it. When I worked, I usually liked it, too. But there WERE some things that happened, that are part of the dynamics of a group, made certain things about certain jobs distasteful:

1) Not being allowed to finish a project once started.
2) Being ordered to do something against my best judgment.
3) Having to work around someone who was basically crazy.

Because of how the boss-junior relationship usually works (or consultant-client or server-customer what ever applies to you) it is easy to get backed off from defending your basic right to be treated with respect while on the job. You have to be able to stand up for that right. If you can't it might be more an issue of how work is organized than the work itself.

Work is needful. Treating a worker like dirt is not.

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It's a lot more complicated then not "working" human's are designed to fill the void in life....So if you suddenly got rich and didn't have to work, eventually after you went on you trips around the world, and did it all, you would still find yourself asking....why and what for, you would still need a purpose for your existence, you would still need to do something that gives your life "meaning".......And because of that even people who lose or quit there jobs become depressed.....It's not there job particularly that they miss, even if they hated there job, or loved it.....it's the "void" in there lifes that now needs to be filled.....Some of us need company and that human interaction, to keep us sane....And some of us don't need as much of it to keep us sane....And some would need no other human interaction at all, but those people are few and far between....So I would say working or not working, it does not matter in the end, as long as you have all that you want like house food clothes even cars and all that shiny stuff ultimately it comes down to filling the void in your life......and you can do something you like....or do something you dont like.... either way the void is filled......with busy ness...or business..... A lot of it is just conditioned habit, even the workaholics, once there is no work they are like deer staring in the headlights....they dont know what to do because they have been conditioned to a certain way for so long and the thought of just staying home and trying to think of doing stuff, is one of there bigest fears, for others especially those who are tired of the whole job thing, it would be there dream....but all in all the void drives us all to find a purpose to our lifes, whatever it might be. And jobs and hobbies and lifestyles and education and joining like minded groups whatever groups they might be from political, to army to your weekly bookclub meetings to whatever tickles your fancy, are just ways of avoiding looking into the void......That is what I found out in my life, both with job, and without job....There is always something to do...... but years of conditioning and habits both mentaly and physically...are not easy to break, it's one of the hardest things to do in life, changing conditioning and habits= changing your life.

Well, I'm bored. I don't have to work at all, but choose to. I'm saving all of my earnings so that I can live a nice, peaceful life outside of this country and start up a business. I'm really not interested in much at all these days that the outside world can provide. I no longer get thrills from seeing sites, or being adventurous, or any of that. In many ways I'm pretty much an old retired fart, but actually am still in my 20's.

I spend most of my time in my head, thinking of the possibilities. When you have this much time on your hands, you can certainly go nuts if you don't have a strong mind, or you can just go within and find yourself on a really deep level. I mostly just observe people and the insanity of our "civilization" when outside...

Originally posted by the dacoit
so i was just pondering this question, i would say most of the people in the world dont like the work or job they are currently doing, and i have heard majority of the people i have ever talked to that they hate their job.

It's only natural to be aversed by slave labour.
Kept in daytime prisons from age 5 till at least 16,
many homo-sapiens don't notice their life of confinement, in mind and body.

The draconian system is well known across the galaxy.
It ensnares "service to other" people,
making them do redundant useless tasks.
Wondering if there is anything more to life.

Well usually they are more useful,
but on this planet, and especially in america,
most "jobs" are just a waste of time and resources.

If it's not geared to the betterment of the species,
then in my books, it's not really useful and worthwhile.

So i was just thinking, and even putting myself in the situation, what if i didn't have to work and had everything else, house, food, entertainment etc

done and done.
Cast some magic spells,
all that is asked for appears.

...and interestingly , i felt that if i didnt have anything to do and life would be like a paradise,

yes precisely.

i would actually go crazy.

crazy is harm to self or others.
typically caused by mass-media or video-games.
Since they are typically infused with sexually appealing violence.

I mean how many years non stop can i JUST workout, play video games or read books, or even do gardening. I guess a job provides enough challenges for me t stay content and whine at the same time?

if you're satisfied going nowhere in life,
with no self-set goals to guide you,
then you're not working toward ascension.

so anyway, what is your opinion, what would personally happen to you?

working towards the betterment of the species,
implementing a holographic community model,
with atom tribes in brief described at:
www.scribd.com...

I do writing, as well as working towards creating tribe.
Today I created the furnacing of some pottery,
in the pottery kiln I created of recycled materials,
within the forest-garden that I'm establishing.

and i mean actually put yourself in that situation, no job. no hassle and everything you ever wanted in terms of personal entertainment.

you set the bar too low.
honestly there is so much more to life.
know that replication is the most successful behavior.

P.S i think that our ancestors were too busy surviving that they didnt really have time to even think there would be a generation like ours, where basically everything from food to clothing, to shelter are handed on a silver platter.

They're only trying to make up for stealing your land and oppressing your freedoms.

so probably its that urge that makes me want to think that life without a job would suck?

Yes, suck is a vacuum, that must be filled.
So you'd have to set a goal of some kind.
As mentioned replication is the goal,
that naturally arises as the most successful.
Since you have continuation of experience,
through the use of new host-bodies.

Beyond simply reproducing homo-sapien host-bodies,
we have all of our technologies to reproduce as well,
creating self-replicating technologically-enabled tribes.

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Hmm......... If I didn't have a Job, i guess I would become a Globalist and hatch a Plot to get Rid of those who still had a Job......

The question is what is a job? There are people, rich people or people from a noble family, who probably didn't need to work. However, they still do something in this society. They still have a sense of life duty to this world because they need to be a part of this world. Even a job you don't like, it does not mean you don't need a job. Even if you have no jobs, you will find something to do given that you have the resource and time. Now, you simply have a problem if one day you decided you don't want to work and you stop engaging yourself in this world. In this case, either you have or don't have a job, you are just a slacker, anti-social being.

Originally posted by joechip
Flipper (the band not the dolphin) says "you're so bored, 'cause your boring" and I think this is relevant here.

That's interesting. I heard that many years ago in an adult education class. The teacher said that when we're bored, to say, "I'm boring" instead of "I'm bored"... It puts the responsibility right where it belongs. My husband and I still say it when we get bored.

I don't work. I was able to quit my job - I think - 12 years ago and we live on my husband's income. I get boring (rarely), but most of the time I keep busy with dogs, sewing, art, cooking, housework, yard work, reading, Internet, shopping and other errands, swimming, remodeling, working out... Life fills in the gaps, for sure. I LOVE not working and I love being at home.

Originally posted by Loutty


The downside of not having to work is that mankind will most likely come to a standstill. There will be no one motivated enough to invent new techniques, divices, expand on others ideas. Or it could have the inverse effect and technological/medical breakthroughs would become common place.

Our technology exists because of leisure, so people having more leisure time should increase our technology, not reduce it. It takes free time to have ideas, and then follow up on them by building, gathering more info, etc.