Beck, Palin, "Restore Honor Tour"

Palin has honor? I suppose if you call quitting her elected position so that she could rake in the money ignoring all the supporters who voted to put her in that position honor.

Originally posted by Miraj
How are they going to restore Honor?
Glenn Beck has been saying FOREVER to just be honest, be honest with yourself and others. Be a person that is honerable....

And why do they need to tour to do that?
It isn't a tour, it a one day event that is family and faith oriented. It is to UNITE people not cause division.

Is this like some sort of band's tour?
No... But there will be music and speakers

Are Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin just trying to make money?
Any money raised is going to charity

Are they just going to manipulate a large group of emotion people and use them to make more money?

Same question? And Sarah Palin is only introducing soldiers.... She has a minimal role

Glenn Beck is a neo con shill out to manipulate a group of people turning away from the republican party to turn them back to the GOP so that they can maintain control of a large group of people all the while getting richer and richer presenting BS theories on TV with no real facts, logic, or common sense. Or is he?

I think you have real issues...

I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS!

What I will never understand about ATS is that everyone screams that everything in this world is a cover up and they want the truth exposed. Now when someone like Beck comes along and reports on things that the main stream media will not report on everyone calls him a liar, in it for the $$, a fool, racist you name it. What it seems to me is this man has done more for exposing the truth than any other media outlet has. Go watch his show and tell me that what he says isn't backed up with actual evidence, actual quotes and video clips, There is no admission charge for this event, and I don't see him selling Glenn Beck stuffed animals at the rally, so where is all this $$ to be made? Publicity sure everyone is in it for publicity he has a family to support just like the rest of us. Your free to your own opinion just as I am to mine, and mine is that he is doing more to help people see the wrongness thats going on right now than anyone else is. Don't be a hater just because he is exposing all the faults in your great Obama and his administration, he also exposed alot of wrong doings with the previous administration to which he admits on a regular basis. Once the rally is over then pick it apart and criticize what he did wrong because as of right now it is still a mystery as to exactly what is going to happen at the rally. If nothing else he will be bringing people together in a peaceful family atmosphere something that lacks happening in todays society.

reply to post by The Sword


Have you ever been around sheep? I am asking because so many people throw that out here. Let me educate you... I have raised sheep. They are MEAN animals. They are dangerous. The are adorable a cuddly when small but in no time at all they are big RAMS with HORNS and a solid skull that when they butt you you know you've been hit. They are smart and independent and won't take nothing off no one. They will get a person or a dog or take each other on and trust me you don't want to get between them or on their bad side. There is nothing scarier than seeing a ram about to charge you. You can train a wolf, put it on a chain, and lead it around like an ordinary dog. Try doing that to a full grown ram, you'll be lucky to walk away.

Originally posted by jaynkeel
What I will never understand about ATS is that everyone screams that everything in this world is a cover up and they want the truth exposed. Now when someone like Beck comes along and reports on things that the main stream media will not report on everyone calls him a liar, in it for the $$, a fool, racist you name it. What it seems to me is this man has done more for exposing the truth than any other media outlet has. Go watch his show and tell me that what he says isn't backed up with actual evidence, actual quotes and video clips, There is no admission charge for this event, and I don't see him selling Glenn Beck stuffed animals at the rally, so where is all this $$ to be made? Publicity sure everyone is in it for publicity he has a family to support just like the rest of us. Your free to your own opinion just as I am to mine, and mine is that he is doing more to help people see the wrongness thats going on right now than anyone else is. Don't be a hater just because he is exposing all the faults in your great Obama and his administration, he also exposed alot of wrong doings with the previous administration to which he admits on a regular basis. Once the rally is over then pick it apart and criticize what he did wrong because as of right now it is still a mystery as to exactly what is going to happen at the rally. If nothing else he will be bringing people together in a peaceful family atmosphere something that lacks happening in todays society.

This is an excellent analysis. Neither Palin nor Beck (especially Beck) has contended anything that has not either been supported by evidence or has actually come true.

There is a lot of hatred for those who stand up to fight the fascists in our government who are demonstrably deceitful and conspiratorial. Statists like Obama are, at heart, liars who MUST deceive in order to bring about their 'fundamental change' because no honest and sane person would buy into it if the actual truth were known. Obama is a statist/fascist who puts a truly anti-human ideology ahead of the people he is sworn to protect and serve.

It is, however, very interesting that Beck has brought more actual, genuine true political, cultural and social conspiracies and deceptions to the forefront for Joe Six-Pack than anyone else, and he is hated for it.

Star and flag for you, my friend.

Originally posted by MMPI2

Neither Palin nor Beck (especially Beck) has contended anything that has not either been supported by evidence or has actually come true.

Ahahahaha, this is the funniest thing I've read today on ATS!!

reply to post by MrXYZ


Must be an inside joke? Or are you laughing because you are denying the fact that most of what Beck says is backed up by facts? Don't get me wrong he does make mistakes like anyone else, just he is at the forefront of getting most of the accurate info out. Unlike other biased media outlets that don't even report on anything other than Lindsey Lohan, or Brittany Spears, or Mel Gibson.

how you can support either one of them is beyond me- but, by all means-
put the act together and take it on the road!
scribble your lines on you hand -
put the vapor rub under your eyes-
would it be a crazy new reality show?
like spinal tap going on tour?
'cause if you put these two together it would go to 11

Originally posted by jaynkeel
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

Must be an inside joke? Or are you laughing because you are denying the fact that most of what Beck says is backed up by facts? Don't get me wrong he does make mistakes like anyone else, just he is at the forefront of getting most of the accurate info out. Unlike other biased media outlets that don't even report on anything other than Lindsey Lohan, or Brittany Spears, or Mel Gibson.

Glenn Beck IS mainstream news.
He is at the forefront of being a money grubbing pundit, that's about it.

Originally posted by MrXYZ

Originally posted by MMPI2

Neither Palin nor Beck (especially Beck) has contended anything that has not either been supported by evidence or has actually come true.

Ahahahaha, this is the funniest thing I've read today on ATS!!

You can keep laughing, but I'm challenging you to produce evidence that either Glen Beck or Sarah Palin have intentionally lied or otherwise falsified information.

Can you keep laughing while you put your money where your mouth is?

Originally posted by MMPI2

You can keep laughing, but I'm challenging you to produce evidence that either Glen Beck or Sarah Palin have intentionally lied or otherwise falsified information.

Can you keep laughing while you put your money where your mouth is?

Palin lied when she said the dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, had nothing to do with his refusal to fire state trooper Mike Wooten; in fact, the Branchflower Report concluded that she repeatedly abused her power when dealing with both men.

Palin lied when she repeatedly claimed to have said, "Thanks, but no thanks" to the Bridge to Nowhere; in fact, she openly campaigned for the federal project when running for governor.

Palin lied when she denied that Wasilla's police chief and librarian had been fired; in fact, both were given letters of termination the previous day.


Palin lied when she wrote in the NYT that a comprehensive review by Alaska wildlife officials showed that polar bears were not endangered; in fact, email correspondence between those scientists showed the opposite.

Palin lied when she claimed that Alaska produces 20 percent of the country's domestic energy supply; in fact, the actual figures, based on any interpretation of her words, are much, much lower.

Need more?

Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by MMPI2

You can keep laughing, but I'm challenging you to produce evidence that either Glen Beck or Sarah Palin have intentionally lied or otherwise falsified information.

Can you keep laughing while you put your money where your mouth is?

Palin lied when she said the dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, had nothing to do with his refusal to fire state trooper Mike Wooten; in fact, the Branchflower Report concluded that she repeatedly abused her power when dealing with both men.

Palin lied when she repeatedly claimed to have said, "Thanks, but no thanks" to the Bridge to Nowhere; in fact, she openly campaigned for the federal project when running for governor.

Palin lied when she denied that Wasilla's police chief and librarian had been fired; in fact, both were given letters of termination the previous day.


Palin lied when she wrote in the NYT that a comprehensive review by Alaska wildlife officials showed that polar bears were not endangered; in fact, email correspondence between those scientists showed the opposite.

Palin lied when she claimed that Alaska produces 20 percent of the country's domestic energy supply; in fact, the actual figures, based on any interpretation of her words, are much, much lower.

Need more?

Yeah...you're gonna have to do a lot better than that, chief....

Re: the bridge to nowhere - By January 2007, as part of a pledge to spend responsibly, Palin pulled the plug on the project, by sending a reduced budget request to the Senate that did not include the $185 million state funds for the bridge's construction. Days later, the project died altogether. Palin explained her actions by saying that of all the possible ways to supply transportation to the Gravina Island airport, "a $398 million bridge is not the answer.

citation usconservatives.about.com...

re; 20% of the domestic energy supply - your figures are simply wrong. Go tot he DOE website and look again. Alaska produces a HUGE (potentially larger than 20%) segment of the US' energy, and that is taking into consideration the enormous constraints placed upon it by congress, the executive branch thru the EPA.

re: polar bears - Global warming is not killing the polar bears of Canada's eastern Arctic, according to one ongoing study. Scheduled for release next year, it says the number of polar bears in the Davis Strait area of Canada's eastern Arctic – one of 19 polar bear populations worldwide – has grown to 2,100, up from 850 in the mid-1980s.

For those keeping score, that’s an almost 150 percent increase in two decades.

citation: newsbusters.org...

re: firing her brother in law - the RECORD reflects that they guy was a sadist and probably a psychopath. To wit:

Wooten has admitted guilt to electrocuting his 10-year-old step-son with a taser "to teach him a lesson" and has been found guilty of threatening to kill Palin's father. For these offenses, he was suspended from the division for five days. Since then, he has been accused, but has not admitted guilt, to drinking on the job and killing a moose out of season.

As far as Monegan is concerned, although he has claimed his firing was politically motivated, evidence shows that he publicly questioned Palin's policies on two separate occasion, each of which would be grounds enough under state statutes to request his resignation or terminate his employment."

citation: usconservatives.about.com...
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You got nothing. The stuff you cited was obviously the result of lies and half-truths created by the Obama / DNC machine in cooperation with the dying left-wing media. Sadly, you have obviously bought into the propaganda created by a sick mechanism reminescent of Stalin's Soviet-style media.

BTW, pal...you need to use citations for your info.

Originally posted by MMPI2

Yeah, everything I posted is obviously part of a lie of a left wing conspiracy.
But all your right wing propaganda is completely truthful and doesn't distort at all, right?

Oh and here's some for Beck
I'll wait to see how you rationalize these.

1.He said that no other President had never been sworn into office without a Bible. He said he 'checked'.
He either did not check or checked up his arsegraped butt because he's lying. John Qunicy Adams used a law book. Franklin Pierce didn't even swear. He affirmed. Teddy Roosevelt used no Bible. Several Presidents kissed a Bible but did not swear on one.

www.washingtonpost.com...…
memory.loc.gov...…

2.Glenn Beck lied when he said recently that $1.4 million of stimulus momey was used to repair a door at Dyess AFB. The doors repaired were aircraft hangar doors and the cost was not $1.4 million.
The cost was $246000 out of $1.4 million in repairs funding.

3.
In June Beck lied when he said that the US was the ONLY country that had a natural birthright provision. Here is the list of other countries that do:
www.numbersusa.com...…
www.politifact.com...

www.sodahead.com...

[edit on 26-8-2010 by hippomchippo]

If you want to talk about self-serving, duplicitous, sociopathic bald-faced liars, why don't you muster the courage to put some of Barack Obama's, Hillary & Bill Clinton's, Rham Emmanual's and Al Gore's demonstrably false audio- and video-recorded statements here on this thread.

Furthermore, for the most part, if you point out a mainstream "progressive," you are at the very best pointing out a delusional pseudointellectual and best an outright liar and thief.

I know...I know. The truth hurts. Somebody's got to say it, though.

Originally posted by MMPI2
If you want to talk about self-serving, duplicitous, sociopathic bald-faced liars, why don't you muster the courage to put some of Barack Obama's, Hillary & Bill Clinton's, Rham Emmanual's and Al Gore's demonstrably false audio- and video-recorded statements here on this thread.

Furthermore, for the most part, if you point out a mainstream "progressive," you are at the very best pointing out a delusional pseudointellectual and best an outright liar and thief.

I know...I know. The truth hurts. Somebody's got to say it, though.

Because this thread is about Beck and Palin, not Obama and his cronies.

Why do you perpetuate the right vs left diversion that is being headed by these people?

For the record, I'm not for Obama or any of his people, infact quite the opposite.

The simple fact is, ALL main stream pundits are shills, thats why they're on main stream news, they're here to serve their purpose, which is to divide the american populace among lines that TPB can control.

[edit on 26-8-2010 by hippomchippo]

Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by MMPI2

Yeah, everything I posted is obviously part of a lie of a left wing conspiracy.
But all your right wing propaganda is completely truthful and doesn't distort at all, right?

Oh and here's some for Beck
I'll wait to see how you rationalize these.

1.He said that no other President had never been sworn into office without a Bible. He said he 'checked'.
He either did not check or checked up his arsegraped butt because he's lying. John Qunicy Adams used a law book. Franklin Pierce didn't even swear. He affirmed. Teddy Roosevelt used no Bible. Several Presidents kissed a Bible but did not swear on one.

www.washingtonpost.com...…
memory.loc.gov...…

2.Glenn Beck lied when he said recently that $1.4 million of stimulus momey was used to repair a door at Dyess AFB. The doors repaired were aircraft hangar doors and the cost was not $1.4 million.
The cost was $246000 out of $1.4 million in repairs funding.

3.
In June Beck lied when he said that the US was the ONLY country that had a natural birthright provision. Here is the list of other countries that do:
www.numbersusa.com...…
www.politifact.com...

www.sodahead.com...

[edit on 26-8-2010 by hippomchippo]

Dude...once again, you fail.

Either your links don't work, or they actually support the notion that "progressives" are habitual thieves and liars.

Your post is symbolic of the liberal/communist position. Abjectly empty rhetoric that can not be supported by objective data.

You seem to me to be a likable sort, so I'm going to offer the following comment to you and people that think like you in a genuine and heartfelt way:

You need to do some real soul-searching. You must decide to do some legitimate research, and to open your mind to avenues of information other than what is spoon fed to you by government schools and TV/Radio stations.

Liberalism as it is practiced/preached by statists and the oligarchs in the western hemisphere is a lie designed to enslave us.

I pray that you start to be more honest with yourself.

Good luck.

reply to post by MMPI2


I like how you blatantly ignore the Palin/Beck lies the guys above you posted. Presents you as a person who clearly thinks with his brain and isn't just spouting partisan crap...oh...wait...sry, I meant the opposite.

Beck also told his viewers to buy gold from a service line that charges A TON more than similar services, making sure they'll never see a profit (or break even) unless gold increased by 65%!!



The above video is by Peter Schiff, and he's a CONSERVATIVE!! Even he realizes Beck lies...so why can't you?? Accept facts!

As for Palin's lies...she's good at it and wrote a whole book filled with them!

You can either accept the fact that those 2 lie EXTENSIVELY, or go like this:

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[edit on 26-8-2010 by MrXYZ]

Originally posted by MMPI2

Dude...once again, you fail.

Either your links don't work, or they actually support the notion that "progressives" are habitual thieves and liars.

Your post is symbolic of the liberal/communist position. Abjectly empty rhetoric that can not be supported by objective data.

You seem to me to be a likable sort, so I'm going to offer the following comment to you and people that think like you in a genuine and heartfelt way:

You need to do some real soul-searching. You must decide to do some legitimate research, and to open your mind to avenues of information other than what is spoon fed to you by government schools and TV/Radio stations.

Liberalism as it is practiced/preached by statists and the oligarchs in the western hemisphere is a lie designed to enslave us.

I pray that you start to be more honest with yourself.

Good luck.

Or you can stop your vague insults and debunk it like you did the palin ones.
I'm simply presenting the information, and once again, I'm not left or right wing, if you could read my post above, you'll understand where I'm coming from.
Why do you think Beck and Palin are so perfect?
Call me brainwashed all you want, when really, you're the one being brainwashed by right wing propaganda just as much as the left wing.

You're preprogrammed to assume anyone questioning Palin or beck is a leftwing liberal shill.

[edit on 26-8-2010 by hippomchippo]

Well as far as Glenn Beck is concerned he himself has publicly stated that he is not a journalist. So how can he be main stream media?

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by jaynkeel
Well as far as Glenn Beck is concerned he himself has publicly stated that he is not a journalist. So how can he be main stream media?

www.youtube.com...

Because he's on main stream media?
I find it admirable that he doesn't consider himself a journalist, but that doesn't make him any less of a shill.