British houswife speaks out about her feelings on the Wars on Terror

Thought everyone might like to read this letter to the editor of a British national newspaper. No matter what your stance is on the war on terror, I bet we can all agree this is one upset British woman, I thought I might share this with other ATS members! This is written by a housewife, to her daily newspaper:

'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores in July 2002, and in New York Sept 11/2001 and have continually threatened to do so since?

Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day in London, and in downtown Manhattan, and in a field in Pennsylvania?

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and who we are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.

I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11 and 7/7.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan

I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of Nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

I'll care when the British media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a British soldier roughing up an Insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this:

I don't care.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take this to the bank:

I don't care.

When I hear that a prisoner – who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and 'fed special food' that is paid for by my taxes – is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts:

I don't care.

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, believe me!! you guessed it ......

I don't care!!

'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. Our soldiers don't have that problem.'

I have another quote that I would like to add
Only five defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1. Jesus Christ
2. The British Soldier.
3. The Canadian Soldier.
4. The US Soldier, and
5. The Australian Soldier
One died for your soul, the other 4 for your freedom.






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[ADMIN UPDATE]
The actual author being Doug Patton, Columnist and Political Speechwriter.
www.gopusa.com...

The viral email apparently started when a woman from Atlanta, GA (Pam Foster) forwarded this revised version to her nephew serving in Baghdad, Iraq.
www.snopes.com...

[edit on 26-8-2010 by 12m8keall2c]

I think I'm going to be sick!

What an utter load of drivel. I somehow doubt this was written by a British housewife at all. The wording and some phrases just seem so American. It's almost like one of those anonymous email chains that turn up from time to time, expressing outrage over something, but never actaually sourced.

I do agree that she is angry, however I think she has the wrong attitude. Let me explain why below.

If you are robbed by a black person, you don't blame all black people, nor should you want to nuke an entire black neighborhood. If you are cut off on the road by a Mexican, you don't hope that every Mexican would die in a blazing crash. If you are Catholic, you don't want your priest to go to prison, if in fact he didn't fiddle with any young boys.

So, why on Earth would you want innocent people to suffer, just because you believe that people have attacked you, even if they share the same religion?

Furthermore, if someone rapes your child, wife or husband, normal people do not wish to rape their children or spouse in response. You don't do it because you don't want to lower yourself to their level. You, unlike them, don't want to hurt innocent people and that is what sets you apart from them. It's what gives you the moral high ground.

By doing what we are doing, we are making ourselves no better than those who attacked us, if you believe in that sort of thing. We are supposed to be better than that.

This isn't even mentioning the more than relevant argument that Islam didn't do this and instead, it was most likely Christians or people who pass themselves off as such..

--airspoon

Originally posted by Britguy
What an utter load of drivel. I somehow doubt this was written by a British housewife at all. The wording and some phrases just seem so American. It's almost like one of those anonymous email chains that turn up from time to time, expressing outrage over something, but never actaually sourced.

Got to agree with you there Britguy (I'm also a Brit).

And weren't the 7/7 attacks in 2005?

kaybee5000

This lady/writer is an ignorant xenophobe. How do I know? Because she's lumping together Buddhist concepts with Islamic terrorists:

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of Nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

"Nirvana" is the Buddhist's term. But there she goes lumping it together with all those other foreign concepts she hates. All she knows is that those ideas are not of her land, so what's the difference!? Right?!

This lady's letter was probably written by someone at the news paper to get more views on their website.

In-other-words, it's just a troll.

Originally posted by harrytuttle
"Nirvana" is the Buddhist's term.

Nirvana is actually a central concept in Indian religion.

Nirvāna (Sanskrit: निर्वाण; Pali: निब्बान (Nibbāna); Prakrit: णिव्वाण) is a central concept in Indian religions. In sramanic thought, it is the state of being free from suffering (or dukkha). In Hindu philosophy, it is the union with the Supreme being through Moksha. The word literally means "blowing out" — referring, in the Buddhist context, to the blowing out of the fires of greed, hatred, and delusion.[1

en.wikipedia.org...

Other than that I'm glad she got it (inner demons) out of her system now she will be fine.

[edit on 25-8-2010 by EFGuy]

To all the previous posters:

Whoa, ya know I probably agree with a lot of what you all just said, but just whoa....Thing that first caught my eye was the pure human emotion, I think emotion like that can be beautiful, wondrous, and grand. Hmmm..I have an idea......wonder if this can touch some of that type of emotion on all of you, or have you all reached the "blogging" edge of insanity where people begin to over analyze everything, anyways, Let me try an experiment here, watch this video, I wonder if any of you see the emotion or do you just see the issues? Here is the link of some more of that pure raw human emotion, I admire and was trying to share:

www.youtube.com...

If this video can't touch you then you need to slowly step away from the computer and walk outside, breath in some fresh air, and say, "I’m glad to be alive”…

no more said the views of the british public and whales lol agree
my cuzen died in 2008 in february in helmand province / afghanistan and he
and he truely believed that the people of anywer deserved the right to freedom and he died saving 5 friends and all 5 survived so

believe in peace

reply to post by AmosGraber


In that video, I was waiting to see one of those soldiers come home and his wife is with "Jodey". As for the emotion part, of course we see the emotion but some of us don't like it, especially when that emotion helps kill or torture people who are or may be innocent. It's because of this emotion that people allow our government to do what it is doing.

--airspoon

6. The New Zealand soldier
7. The South African soldier
8. The Indian soldier
9. The Polish soldier
10. The Russian soldier
11. The Czech soldier
12. The French soldier
13. The Greek soldier
14. The Norwegian soldier
15. The Belgian soldier
16. The Dutch soldier

The list goes on. That is if she was refering to the Second World War. If not my point still stands.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take this to the bank:

I don't care.

Here's part she left out;

When I hear Charles De Menezes was shot 7 times in the head point blank, whilst being restrained.

I don't care.

..........

I don't think this is a letter from a British housewife, if it is then I DON'T CARE

Why would this letter be any more relevant if it was from a British housewife? Are they known to be incredibly perceptive? You get odd people from all walks of life...

What British Newspaper was this in and when?

If any Al Qaeda are reading they'll be mighty pleased with that diatribe.

They cant beat us but they can scare us into beating ourselves. On the basis of that rant they appear to be quite successful.

You don't win by throwing your core values on a bonfire.

reply to post by airspoon


Actually I agree, but don’t hate the warrior, the soldier, the ones waiting for them at home, or even a house wife who is trying to stand behind those who fight for their freedom. The warrior above all others prays for peace, for it is the warrior above all others who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war. We just get to sit around on our computers griping about this or that, trying to use as much intellectual prowess we can muster in hopes someone takes notice.

So just remember it’s not the soldier, Marine, the seaman, or the airman behind the debacle of war. Tolstoy said it best when he puts it this way, “In all history there is no war which was not hatched by the governments, the governments alone, independent of the interests of the people...” In addition I love David Friedman's words which illustrate the same problem, “The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem; it is generally employed only by small children and large nations. “ However, “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. “--John Stuart Mill

Let me try one more time which do you see first, because that is really the important thing. Do you see the issue or the emotion first? That’s all I was simply asking, not that you seen both eventually everyone sees both, I’m just wondering honestly which do you see first? Issue or emotion? OK? Let us try again, look at this picture, which do you see first?:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/8b8ce6ea492b.jpg[/atsimg]

reply to post by AmosGraber


I know, I am a soldier, I was talking about the "house wife". It is the house wife's emotion, and people just like "her", that allows our government to do what it's doing. Instead of wasting all of that energy on inneffective emotion, she turn it into education, thus actually benefitting from it.

--airspoon

By Way of Deception Thou Shalt Do War

The message of the OP and House Wife is clear. That they hate the enemy.

I was expecting something more realistic than this.

Something more realistic than more pro war propaganda.

But what w have is The same old hate rhetoric and why we need to waste more innocent lives to take other peoples natural resources.

Nothing about ending the war. But only in prolonging it.


But because of the conspiracy attributed to the war on terror , which is in essence a war of hatred against a people of another faith other than our own.

It really clarifies the fundamental basis of the entire conflict.
Especially with all of the hatred now directed towards Muslims.

Which is in essence is making it a Holy War.

Looking at History, Israel and their Mossad have been trying to get us involved in fighting their wars for them since the 1950's.

The Zionists beginning with the Lavon Affair in 1954 have been committing terrorist acts in which to blame on Muslims, in order to provoke war and more importantly to Bring in the Americans and British on their side to fight them.


What about the USS Liberty back in 1967 ?

Where the Israelis destroyed one of our Ships with the Goal of Blaming it on the Egyptians in order to incite yet another war between the USA and Israel's enemies ?

The entire phrase/term of War on Terror was created by Zionists, namely Benjamin Netanyahu, in his Book authored in the late 70's.

Entitled:
Fighting Terrorism: How Democracies Can Defeat Domestic and International Terrorism

As I have and will always have said,
This IS a conspiracy website.

And I personally don't buy into this brainwashing doctrine of hating all Muslim people.

Especially when looking at who owns our Federal Reserve Bank , Owns Israel as well as who recently stole all of our tax Dollars in the form of Banking Bailouts !

I know people are yelling anti semite, but all in all, Semites are Arab AND Jewish people.

I have nothing against either.

But , I do have a problem with criminals who steal money from the poor AND who utilize and rely upon false acts of violence commonly know as False Flags in which to incite their own wars !!

Wars for profit, sacrificing the lives of the poor.

War is a Racket ! It always has been ....

Read Smedley Butler's Book and open your eyes to what war is really about. From a twice decorated Congressional Medal of Honor recipient.

When given the truth about the war, she does not care. She just likes to hate, like many people. Studies have shown that the average British person is less intelligent than the average American person. I am seeing this.

That picture made me very sad. But I didn't see any "bravery" in it at all, though I looked for it. What I saw was a boy who now must grow up without a father.

And since you're fond of quotes, here's one by Eve Meeriam: "I dream of giving birth to a child who will ask, "Mother, what was war?"

Evidently, this boy will not be the one saying it...

And here's a quote from a letter Robert E. Lee wrote to his wife in 1864: "What a cruel thing is war: to separate and destroy families and friends, and mar the purest joys and happiness God has granted us in this world; to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbors, and to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world".

That is how I feel about it also.

Koy

Edit to add qoute.

[edit on 25-8-2010 by Koyaanisqatsi]

reply to post by airspoon


Im not as lean but still as mean always a Marine, and what you said is heartless, its not people like her, its people which control our commerical oligarchy who start, maintain, and continue to promote war, Sartre once said, "When the rich wage war its the poor who die" did you not understand what Tolstoy was saying, too or what? Guess I'd expect that kind of an attitude from a dog face, should of joined the Corp son, they'd of trained ya right....

Lawdy, lawdy, lawdy!!

To think that this even bothers people.

Soldiers do not deserve an opinion.

They are there to do a job and nothing more.

If some housewife anywhere shares hers (regardless of its basis) we do not just stand behind her as if it is law.

Has she seen bullets flying?

Has she any idea of the front line?

Now were she to be talking about herself being invaded and her own experiences dealing with the front line of soldier defying her right to live or worship then I'd give a damn.

Just because missus "I failed my GCSE's and don't have any chance because I'm preconditioned to believe that the easiest option was to have an idiot for a husband who did his best with what he was given, by way of brains, to actually make a few bob fighting for what he thought was his own country's safety" doesn't get a pension shouldn't mean, for one second, that we take her outlook and hold it over the outlook of people who have actually been there and know the 'nonsense' that is going down to people with nothing whatsoever.

So sorry miss Daily Mail - but suck it up and get a job like so many of your countrymen do to sustain you and yourself at least you have your dead husband's pension to help you out.

-m0r

PS: Too harsh?

Why would anyone want to know what the feelings of a british housewife on the war on terror are. I mean seriously, what new perspective will she provide on this conflict apart from some over emotive and confused letter.

With regards to the picture of Marine and Child, that reminds me of 2nd World war propaganda "BRAVERY At times is needed on the home front"