62 School Children Encounter Aliens - Zimbabwe, 1994

reply to post by DoomsdayRex

One child may have claimed he saw something he didn't, just to be part of the herd and someone else may have been influenced by this? Interesting, don't you think?

Yes, I see what you're getting at, but I still simply cannot believe they all just got together and decided to make it up, or one kid started this fantastical story that they all soon wanted to be a part of, even if that did some how happen, I still believe most of those children believed they actually saw intelligent beings that weren't human, and I don't think kids could hold the hoax together that well.

[edit on 21/8/10 by CHA0S]

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by theMegaladon
Those kids did not just conspire at recess and think up such a story with the same exact details. We are talking about 62 kids not 3 or even 10.

How many children were actually interviewed? It is stated that 62 kids saw the encounter, not that 62 were interviewed.

How many were interviewed then of the 62? How many were involved in the encounter? If 62 seen the encounter that means they must have seen the beings interacting with the other kids no? Did John Mack and company interview randomly out of the 62? Did they interview the most outspoken ones? Or did they interview all 62 children? I know some of them were like 5 or 6 and some older maybe 7 to 10 years old? This was an elementary school correct? So do you think they had some brief interviews with the younger children and more intense interviews with the older kids? In the videos show kids around 9 or 10 that I can tell. If you could answer these questions that would be great rex. I am having a hard time finding the answers myself.

Maybe..

To my knowledge the children described the classical greys some described with long hair some without. There are cases i have heard about i can not recall where greys had hair and were considered to be feminine or motherly telepathically , and in other cases was attributed to grey/human hybrids. Word is there are several species of greys they are not all synthetic or robotic. Details sketchy. it is possible this was some kind of mind control experiment like the bluebeam agenda alien hoax theory but i doubt it.

A mental/visual projection?


I think these beings may have projected the hair on the head visual/memory to make them look more human "not as scary" to certain kids. These beings are known to implant memory in abduction phenomena and change appearance in some cases i have read on. So maybe the children seen them in true form because they were not frightened by the appearance. Maybe these beings focused on so many minds at once projecting hair? Same with the messages. We are talking about telepathic being with an advanced technology possibly not even of our species here.


[edit on 21-8-2010 by theMegaladon]

Originally posted by FoxMulder91
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What makes you lean towards "time travelers or inter dimensional perhaps astral"?

The children said they saw ships and beings that resemble what we call "aliens"

Cheers

[edit on 21-8-2010 by FoxMulder91]

What we have been told to think are aliens may not be...

Because missing time is usually associated with these things,many times a message of the future is conveyed and they look too much like us. The high strangeness is part of it. I use to think it was aliens from another planet what have you, after exploring and brainstorming it appears at least to me they are or descendants from the future. And the PTB doing such a sloppy job suspiciously covering up as if they purposely want us to think it is ET. Lets just say if most of us became aware that these beings were future humans that took a evolutionary turn that in itself could change the future with unknown consequences.

Most of all just a gut feeling however if it is ET that would not surprise me at all either.

Still undecided



[edit on 21-8-2010 by theMegaladon]

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You make some brilliant points, we seem to think on the same level, I might add you as a friend actually if that's OK. And I have heard about the human/hybrid greys having hair before...I have to get going soon, but I'll get back to this later.

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Cool will do the same here.



This is a very complicated subject often answered with simple explanations and mundane ideas. This is why it is still such a mystery , what we think we know is always subject to change as science and new discoveries of how things work evolve. Yet the subject is often approached with the same answers often. I think the UFO community is more disorganized than ever , this is why simple things like lack funding the new follow up documentary on such a vital story happen. Nothing gets done... but yeah you have to think with somewhat complex ideas I like to break the mold a little.

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Originally posted by CHA0S
Yes, I see what you're getting at, but I still simply cannot believe they all just got together and decided to make it up, or one kid started this fantastical story that they all soon wanted to be a part of, even if that did some how happen, I still believe most of those children believed they actually saw intelligent beings that weren't human, and I don't think kids could hold the hoax together that well.

Let me be clear, I do not think this was a hoax. Nor do I think the children are being anything less than sincere. They are telling the truth, insofar as they know it.

Yeah, this is a great incident. Thanks for posting this and reminding everyone about this great case.

S&F

reply to post by DoomsdayRex


So just to be clear, what exactly do you think happened? Do you think they had an encounter with intelligent beings not of this planet or something else?

I would have liked a few more basic questions asked like, did you see the actual craft land?, did you see the craft take off / leave? did it go straight up etc etc. And many other basic questions should have been asked.
Cheers
mrix

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Originally posted by CHA0S
So just to be clear, what exactly do you think happened? Do you think they had an encounter with intelligent beings not of this planet or something else?

I do not think they saw anything. I think this may be a case of mass hysteria.

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My only issue is - What if these young kids didnt even know what a UFO was? These are kids that didnt have TVs or anything to even know what this stuff was before hand.

Mass hysteria however is a good theory. I think they saw something, but what that something was, who knows

[edit on 22-8-2010 by -Blackout-]

Previously posted or not, I am completely unfamiliar with the case, and I look forward to watching the videos when I get a chance. I have done some initial reading into the story and it is fascinating to say the least. Thank you for rehashing this, I hope others will understand that it's not a bad idea from time to time to bring back an oldie. S+F muh dude.

[edit on 22-8-2010 by Shark VA84]

I gave my opinion about this with references and whatnot over here.

In short I believe that the woman who interviewed the children (Cynthia Hind) polluted any real version of the truth we could ascertain because she had an agenda of supporting an alien visitation theory and asked leading questions to a hand picked group of the older children.

I think the whole incident was fabricated as a fun thing to do by the children which snowballed out of control because of ineptitude on behalf of Cynthia and her agenda.

I'd love to be wrong on this but I've not seen from or heard any of the children's accounts now that they are all growed up and considering the consequences of something of this magnitude even 1 out of 62 of the children must comprehend how important this would be for humanity.

It was a private school after all, there must be 1 or 2 of them who understand the importance of science or the power of politics.

Cool story but that's it in my opinion.

-m0r

The thing that truly bothers me about this is that the only argument in which the whole thing is based is "how can 62 children lie?". Children are not incapable of lying and in fact they are prune to do so. Regardless, if mass hysteria is to blame then they aren't even lying, just telling what they think it happened.

Does anyone remember the Kern County case in the 80s? Around 60 children from the day care said they were raped in satanic rituals when in fact none of it actually happened and it was all mass hysteria.

I'm not saying it's impossible for this case to be true but we have examples of cases like this in the past where a group of children (or adults) claim to have lived something which never actually took place. My skeptic side needs a little more than just their stories.

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[edit on 22-8-2010 by Radiobuzz]

Originally posted by -Blackout-
My only issue is - What if these young kids didnt even know what a UFO was? These are kids that didnt have TVs or anything to even know what this stuff was before hand.

Who told you they didn't have TVs? This was a private school which means the families were relatively wealthy:

www.youtube.com...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/44ef0166c5d8.png[/atsimg]I don't know if they were as common as breadbins everywhere but certainly TVs were common in the homes of those who were wealthy enough to afford private schools.

I would love this to be true, and I hope the children weren't lying...

HOWEVER --- Remember the Salem Witch Hunt! That little event began because 3 little girls didn't want to get into trouble for doing stuff they thought would get them into trouble with the church. Maybe these students had a similar thing happen where they would get into trouble if it was found out they were lying about the alien encounters.

As I said, I hope this turns out to be true and aliens come and start talking to me tomorrow. I would love to fly away from this planet to a place that is in a much more harmonious balance with the universe.

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Who told you they didn't have TVs?

While TV ownership is low in Zimbabwe (30% of the population), the now-closed Ariel School was just outside of the capitol, Harare; television ownership in the urban areas is much higher than in the rest of the country. There also seem to have been UFO sightings in the country days before the Ariel School incident that were publicized in the media.

Originally posted by m0r1arty
I'd love to be wrong on this but I've not seen from or heard any of the children's accounts now that they are all growed up and considering the consequences of something of this magnitude even 1 out of 62 of the children must comprehend how important this would be for humanity

There is a documentary being slowly produced (for want of funds) that will feature interviews with the now-adult children.

I found a review of the unfinished documentary that reveals Mack may not have necessarily thought the incident was a physical reality...

About the opinions & investigations of Mack not into UFOs but into the workings of the human psyche -- This is where it initially looked like it might go when we viewed a short 5-minute trailer that included snippets of Mack speaking to a group of South African psychologists at the time of the Ruwa encounters, footage currently missing from the rough-cut. At that time (1994), in his opening comments, it seemed that he was not looking at such events as qualia, but as tools to provide insight into how the human mind worked, how it interpreted certain evidence, how it recorded, forgot, or transmuted memories. Perhaps this is a snapshot of his state of mind, and the status of insight -- and if so, it would anchor an interesting arc illustrating the changes in his perspective and interpretation over time.

Source

I think it's imperative to make contact with the witnesses now that they're growed up. That documentary I mentioned early is supposed to bring some light about it. But they claim to have a funding problem to be able to finish the movie. Maybe if some of you that live in the US could contact the John Mack Institute and ask more information about all this, a direct phone call I mean.

I think it's very important to contact the witnesses NOW that 16 years already passed, enough time to revisit the case.

There is already a review of the documentary here.

That chap doesn't seem impressed with it at all.

-m0r