Assange no longer wanted

I find it odd that most people here automatically assume that "they" were behind this. This isn't the first false accusation of rape that has happened in the world. Troubled women have been known to falsely accuse men of rape for a variety of different reasons. However, in this case, to some "they" must have been behind it.

I realize that this is a conspiracy website and alternative view points are considered, but there are a large number of people who automatically assume that "they" must be behind this. In my opinion, if "they" wanted to discredit Assage then they would have done a much better job.

I also believe that people are unfairly judging the MSM. I found out about this story by reading the headline Sweden drops rape accusation against founder of WikiLeaks on CNN. I then visited this site to see what people were saying about the story. Does anyone find it strange that the MSM would cover a story such as this on the illusive figure that has been in the headlines the past few months? Do you think they are covering the story solely to smear Assage's name? If you look at CNN's newspulse, this story is the most popular by a large amount currently. I would bet that the MSM is covering this story because it's a popular topic and they know people will read it.

reply to post by againuntodust


Valid point.. hard to imagine they got to someone inside the prosecutors office, but entirely possible of course. I'm a conspiracy virgin so I am a bit naive still

Originally posted by Styki
Does anyone find it strange that the MSM would cover a story such as this on the illusive figure that has been in the headlines the past few months?

Nope, and you answer your own question here:

Originally posted by Styki
I would bet that the MSM is covering this story because it's a popular topic and they know people will read it.

Like any famous person, the public loves to read about it when they do something wrong.

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Originally posted by Section31
Speculation::
I still say Assange was somehow involved with planting this story. I wonder what his 'real' relationship is with these women.

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Well, from what I've read about his emails between him and Manning, Assange "putts from the rough" if you get my drift.

reply to post by Section31


strange observation of you.......issent it a speaking:
NEVER SHOOT THE MESSENGER ???
couse that is wat the Assange is...


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This is the way I see it.

They never intended the accusation to stick. Instead, they'll be pulling a lot of these accusations against him, over and over again and totally destroy his reputation.

Most TV squakers won't care if he's been cleared of any wrong doing, most people only remember the first 30 seconds of what they've been told.

reply to post by Frontkjemper


Yes, and let's not forget the "where there's smoke, there's fire" mentality.

Poor guy. This was a deliberate act of malice.

I bet those people who were screaming "He's a rapist, get over it," and "not everything's a conspiracy" on the other Assange threads feel pretty sheepish.

This situation lends itself to conspiracy soooo much more than most other mainstream issues. So when you have someone fighting against corruption in the world being accused of something as serious as rape, it may behoove you to consider the possibility of conspiracy.

Unless you're happy with the way our world leaders and major media sources are running things. In that case, you shouldn't be on ATS, you should be watching Jersey Shore or finger painting.

reply to post by againuntodust


Have the molestation charges been cleared up yet also? or jsut the Rape accusation? Charges from Swden aside, he is still facing potential criminal charges in the US.

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reply to post by jerico65

You sir get a star. It is good to find someone who has a sense of humor on this site.

While everyone is too busy fighting, they failed to miss the humor of the story. As a result of some serious 'rocking and rolling', Assange got himself in to a sex scandal. Since they most likely saw an opportunity to be on television, two young Swedish women were using their one night stand to get rich.

Do you know who everyone blamed? The United States government. Yep, that crazy government sent Swedish babes to Assange's hideout, so they can pin him on charges of rape and molestation. Oh, the conspiracy theories have only just begun. While they were secretly plotting their course of action, the evil United States government picked up the phone and called "Swedish Babes R' Us". Somehow along the way, they convinced two young ladies to romance the notorious hacker.

One year from now the Swedish headlines will be:
"My Baby's Father is Assange"
"The Hacker That Now Rocks The Cradle"

It will be on a television and YouTube near you!!!

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Originally posted by Section31
Now the question comes to:
Did Assange set this up to smear the United States government?

Remember, people have faked things to get publicity on television. Remember the balloon boy hiding in the attic, and the news media was being manipulated by his parents?

How far will Assange go to keep himself in the spotlight, so that the government will not act upon his threats?

Here we go again. Straight forward, the US smeared itself for making a dirty move. Well, it's smeared itself more than once for playing the people as puppets. But, as the patriot would say, "The US would NEVER do such a thing", and its left at that.

I'm sure somebody remembers how almost nobody knew about WikiLeaks, all until it hit the news and now everybody wants to smear this guy because the news is the only source of information that they intake a day. If the Media says Julian Assange is a Rapist, he must be a rapist. If the Media says Julian Assange has Child Pornography, he must have child pornography. If the Media says Julian Assange molested someone, he must have molested someone.

But really, is it so hard to believe that the US wants to smear this guy? Just watch, I got the feeling that he ends up dead in the next three months, and they give the media a "Suicide Report" and write up a bunch of false BS for all its listeners to suck up like a vacuum.

Wonder what the response is for Julian Assange's Murder, (Suicide by the terms of the US when it comes down to situations like this) He felt bad about raping and molesting women two women -snip----> that, by the way, he NEVER MET!

reply to post by QuantumDeath

See the post above yours for my answer.

Thank you and enjoy.

reply to post by againuntodust


I saw the headlines this morning and I thought to myself; "so what?". I mean, even if he did rape the women (which he obviously didn't), it does not in any way diminish the information released on wikileaks. Sadly, I think the public will probably just hop on the bandwagon and cast him out, along with anything he touches.

- "Have you read the leaked documents on wikileaks?
- "Wasn't wikileaks founded by that Assange guy? I heard he's a rapist, you can't trust any information coming from him."

I can't shake the feeling that this is waaaaaay too convenient, with all the fuss about Assange and the leaked documents.

reply to post by Saribous



I find it intresting that people are demanding the main stream media practice some respnsible reporting when it comes to this guy, yet they dont demand the same responsibility from a man releasing documents illegally obtained.

Contrary to popular belief, he broke the law by releasing this information, and should be held accountible for it.

reply to post by Section31



Yeah, I read it. Seems like its "Just another coincidence to you", just like everything else. The connection here is just too hard to believe Mr. The-United-States-Government-Is-Always-Truthful.

Originally posted by QuantumDeath
reply to post by Section31

 

Yeah, I read it. Seems like its "Just another coincidence to you", just like everything else. The connection here is just too hard to believe Mr. The-United-States-Government-Is-Always-Truthful.

So it couldnt be possible for Mr. "Lets release whatever the hell we want, consequences be damned" Assange to have put this together himself in an effort to generate world wide sympathy for his behavior by placing blame on the US, and subsequently changing the story from what he did ilegally, to how he is being maligned by a Superpower...

Hmmmm ok

Assange is now a joke. Regardless about what he does next, many people will see him as a "Saturday Night Live" sketch gone mad.

Do I take the word of a 'criminal hacker' who posted 'stolen' national security documents? Or, should I take the word of those babes who are just looking to make some quick cash?

*facepalm*

Technically, what everyone is doing is trusting a unknown/infamous hacker who breaks the law for a living. Come on. Seriously??!?! It is similar to trusting a thief to hold your wallet, so you can reach down to tie your shoes.

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Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by QuantumDeath
reply to post by Section31

 

Yeah, I read it. Seems like its "Just another coincidence to you", just like everything else. The connection here is just too hard to believe Mr. The-United-States-Government-Is-Always-Truthful.

So it couldnt be possible for Mr. "Lets release whatever the hell we want, consequences be damned" Assange to have put this together himself in an effort to generate world wide sympathy for his behavior by placing blame on the US, and subsequently changing the story from what he did ilegally, to how he is being maligned by a Superpower...

Hmmmm ok

And hes going to smear himself after how far he's gotten. Possibility. But, hes smart to know the consequences of pulling something like that. And to make himself look like a rapist? This guy? Raping someone? Thats just comical

But lets take a look at this. CIA Agents can be anywhere, in any country, at any time. You think they are not taking orders from people willing to protect their dirty little secrets at all cost, for their own benefits instead of the people?

Just wait for Phase 2 of the operation.

Follow the money.

If his true intent were the revelation of truth, he would have released everything he had at the same time. That would give him only one shot at the obvious infusion of hard cash he gets every time he gets notoriety.

Instead he starts what amounts to a worldwide advertising campaign sloooowly leading up to his first, partial release. Then he milks the fact he has more to release and once again wages an obvious marketing campaign.

I've been bouncing between news channels all day and they all report the same updates at the same time. That means to me, they are not involved and they are all reporting this in a similar manner because they are just reporting on the information as it surfaces.

Could this be a set-up by Assange to bring sympathy, attention and more cash flow? Seems to fit an obvious pattern here. Perhaps hopping from country to country at will has become a lifestyle for him? An extremely expensive one?

Hmmm, wonder what countries like China and Russia would pay him to continue his activities. Plenty I'd imagine.

If one person dies as a result of his actions, even one, anyone funding him is providing blood money and participating in an act of Manslaughter.

I predict this pattern will continue. Months of lead up to a release, followed by a partial release and then it starts all over again. It is his profession. Some people grow food or provide a product or service to earn a living. He obtains information illegally, without regard for the consequences and then people pay him to do it so they can read it. It IS his profession.

reply to post by QuantumDeath

Sometimes smart people do dumb things.

Does anyone remember presidential nominee John Edwards? Clean cut, dresses well, speaks elegantly, etc... Type of guy you would vote to become president. It turned out he had a 'love child' with one of his campaign committee members. 'While his wife was recovering from cancer.'

Assange kind of reminds me of Edwards. When he is in public or on television, Assange looks like he has it all together. However, underneath the surface he is fighting some harsh demons. At some point in this whole mess, I think we will learn about those demons. It is only a mater of time.

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