US Catholic Church tarred with new child sex abuse scandal

US Catholic Church tarred with new child sex abuse scandal

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LOS ANGELES — The Roman Catholic Church in the United States has become embroiled in a new pedophilia scandal with six women and one man alleging sexual abuse by a priest over three decades.

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It's amazing how these pedophiles get off so easily because they are good for the community. What's worse is that the money they are spending to defend themselves are paid by their followers.

The only viable option is they should stop building Churches near playgrounds and schools. Children's should not be allowed in Church in the clutches of pedophiles so easily.

These same hypocrites have a long history of preaching against gays while their priests and "fathers" touch little children.

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not to demean Catholicism at all
but it does seem to me that there
is another charge of sexual exploitation
within the church every month or so
these days. I guess we can add
another one to the list of hundreds.

Maybe soon, their ranks will be
cleaned out and we can have
real church

I'm Christian btw.

This actually begs an interesting question

Should pedos be jailed or helped?
this may be a mental condition or something.

Just jailing them without understanding what causes it doesn't do much.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


DUDE , you went and elongated her face.!! oweeeaaaaa!!!
good post about penitence....that's a major discrepancy today....world wide in the state and federal prisons. it started out as doing penitence to reflect, now it's an evil monster!
so. what does that say about the persons knowingly running the operations, what does that make them, like the warden, guards, society and law enforcers.... why, that makes them evil. anyway about it, they are not children of the light.

you and i think the same about HER! ( up there in the corner of your handle)

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
This actually begs an interesting question
Should pedos be jailed or helped?
this may be a mental condition or something.
Just jailing them without understanding what causes it doesn't do much.

seriously
don't we already know why
these incidents occur???

If u were placed into a situation
where you had to take a vow of celibacy
and given reign of a congregation, and knew
you could pretty much do as you please
without recourse and if you are caught
there is no penalty other than moving
to a new parish ....

don't you think temptation gets the better of
these folks ???

They think they can do it and get away with it.

But I remember a phrase:
"You sins will find you out"

As much as the thought of these priests molesting kids and as much as I would like to see the book thrown at them, you have to remember something...

Being a priest is also an occupation. How many teachers, doctors, lawyers, accountants, coaches, scout leaders or others molest kids. Jumping on the Catholic Church for how they handled things in the past is fair, but a blanket condemnation of them for the acts of a minority of losers in the priesthood is not fair to do.

It is like condemning all soldiers because some raped or abused people. It is like condeming all astronauts because one wore a diaper and drove 18 hours.
It is like condemning all presidents because one got a bj in the oval office.

The church itself isn't "tarred" by this... but that priest certainly is. Dump some feathers on him too when you get done with the tarring. But, don't blame the institution for the actions of a renegade member.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
seriously
don't we already know why
these incidents occur???

If u were placed into a situation
where you had to take a vow of celibacy
and given reign of a congregation, and knew
you could pretty much do as you please
without recourse and if you are caught
there is no penalty other than moving
to a new parish ....

don't you think temptation gets the better of
these folks ???

I disagree
There are plenty of pedos that aren't men of the cloth

Some of them are people who are able to get women but choose younger underage girls.

Also it also brings up another question, alot of homosexuals say homosexuality is not a choice, so can it also be said that pedophilia is not a choice?

reply to post by YourPopRock


Thank you for pointing this out.
God Bless~

Definitely should only allow people 18 and over into a church, or religious building of any kind. It makes 100% sense.

I think the law should go harder on these criminals. You touch a child you deserve to wear a sign in prison saying "I'm a child rapist". Children are suppose to trust the church.


I do feel sorry for them though. They sit and hear people confess their dirtiest secrets, and can't do anything about it. Oh well its exactly why I don't go or believe in that God. Its unnatural you don't see animals denying their basic instinct to reproduce and have some fun.

reply to post by YourPopRock


Hey Buddy, I agree with you to a point.

However, the Catholic Church is responsible.

Yes, the Pres got a BJ in the oval office, but he was still fully investigated, and went through the impeachment process in the Senate.

The problem I have here is that Pope Benedict was in charge of these abuse cases for so long, and handled them so wrong. And right now, he is the church, in his position as Pope.

There are numerous cases where they tried to cover it up. This website gives a clear understanding of how big this problem is:

bishop-accountability.org...

Do people hate BP because of only one well in the Gulf blowing up? Yes, because of how BP handled it, and how many lives it has impacted. Take a look through that database to get a good idea of how the Catholic CHurch is handling this.

If you have an element in any organization that is hurting other people, you must stop the problem, fix the problem, and work to never let these problems happen ever again.

The Catholic Church is not doing this at all.

Have you hugged your local BP representative today? It is the same thing for the Church. Until they demonstrate an urgency to fix this problem, and actually do so, no Priestly hugs for me or my kids thank you very much.

Another point is that the doctors and teachers that get in trouble for abusing kids are usually arested....looking at the database in my last post, a majority of these priest-criminals have not been punished, by the Church or the authorities.

reply to post by YourPopRock

Thank you for your point. I would like to see an investigation of the public schools going back decades and see how much abuse was covered up there.

People did not talk about these things in the past. It just was not talked about, period.

Pope Paul made a cryptic statement back in 1969. He said the smoke of satan has entered the Vatican. I firmly believe it was homosexuals who got a hold of the seminaries and only promoted those with homosexual tendencies, or were willing to look the other way.

So the good, holy men were turned away from the seminaries, people like Mahoney took over power, now they are being found out, people are angry and I don't blame them.

One of the Saints said "The floor in hell is paved with the skulls of bishops"!

reply to post by Sheol
How is the entire Catholic church any different from the entire public school system?

Where's the condemnation of the Sec. of Education or his boss, Barack Obama?
Conspiracy of Silence: US Public Schools sex abuse goes unreported and unpunished

If you can use the example of a single priest, how about the example of a single, serial, abuser protected by "the [public school] system?"
Predators lurking in the schools

Pointing to occasional revelations about deviate priests ignores the on-going and continuous failure of our public education authorities to face facts, take hard positions and punish their members.

Seems to me that hypocrisy, or religious bigotry, somewhat blurs the vision of those who perceive a "problem" or "scandal" necessitous of broad exposure and discussion.

Why focus on a religious institution and anecdotal incidents instead of a broad-based, persistent and pernicious threat?

Are we truly focused on the "problem" here, or just a convenient target?

deny ignorance

jw

I think it would be offensive for any Catholic Church building to be constructed near any school.

...can you pick up my sarcasm??

Originally posted by Sheol

The only viable option is they should stop building Churches near playgrounds and schools. Children's should not be allowed in Church in the clutches of pedophiles so easily.

The location of a church would be a difficult issue to address, most churches are built in communities, most communities have schools. Even if a church is near a school, doesn't mean that the children will go to it.

I am tending to agree with your comment about children not being allowed near churches though. I think that until a child is old enough to make thier own mind up, without the influence of influenced adults, then they should not be forced into any organised religon, cult etc.

Especially one (insert any religon here) that causes so much anger, hatred and loss/damage of life.

Paedaphilia is disgusting either way, but anyone who does it whilst in a position of trust such as the priesthood, should be dealt with medieval style.

CX.

[edit on 20/8/10 by CX]

reply to post by nydsdan


Anyone with authority over a child, and who abuses that authority is wrong. Teachers included.

HOWEVER, I remember growing up in Catholic school. To me, all of the Priests and Nuns had authority over me in the school, just like a regular teacher, but it also felt like they had Spiritual and Emotional authority over me as well. Sister Mary used to scare the crap out of me in third grade, and when she said I needed to pray, and she smacked her ruler across my knuckles...believe me, I obeyed and prayed.

I am sure that many kids who either grew up Catholic, or went to Catholic school years ago, feel the same way.

For me, any organized religion that has its leaders abusing children is 100X more vile than just a common teacher.

I never went to a regular teacher and asked my deepest religious questions of them.

Priests not only educate, like a teacher, they also control faith, and belief. That makes them different, and it makes those that abuse children, worthy of castration.

And until the Catholic Church deals with both its past and present issues with child-abusing, scum sucking Priests, it is just as wrong, vile, and disgusting.

Didn't Jesus say in his bible to 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"? The Church has allowed its Priests to 'do unto others' in horrible and wrong ways for years and years.

I guess they did not listen to their own main man.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
not to demean Catholicism at all
but it does seem to me that there
is another charge of sexual exploitation
within the church every month or so
these days. I guess we can add
another one to the list of hundreds.

Maybe soon, their ranks will be
cleaned out and we can have
real church

I'm Christian btw.

We should just create a building somewhere in the middle of no where, where pediphile priests can go to get sodomized for their crimes fricken filthy distgusting hypocrites.

What I don't get is that these priests are here to teach us on how sin affects our soul and that we will go to hell, but they don't worry about their own sins???

I believe that the catholic church has to follow their own doctrine, one that Jesus taught us: repent from our sins and that everyone deserves a second chance but that doesn't mean that we won't be punished for our sin eitherway. Every action has a consequence and if you repent that will determine the gravity of that consequence. Now I am sure that the Church is big enough to punish these people by moving them to a position where they no longer interact with the public or are all those postions full already??
Even better hit them where it hurts, strip them of their priestly title some one above mentioned that it is in fact an occupation, so why can't they be fired??? Jesus led by example and he expected that of his own disciples. These people cannot teach the word of God if they themselves do not follow him!!
Actions speak louder than words IMO.

BTW Pope Benedict is a Joke and he will be the end of the church.

[Edit: correct spelling and missing words in my text, I usually think faster than I write or type. ]

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