Felony Level US Inmates to be Stripped of Citizenship and Released into Mexico

I hear all the talk of programs and efforts to solve the illegal immigration issue, but I hear little if any talk of what the US government is doing to make the Mexican government itself do more to stop this. The policies can not all be directed at the people themselves.

At some point there needs to be accountability of governments on this issue. And after decades of the USA enduring this illegal invasion, I'd say we're at that point. In fact, we are way beyond that point, with some 11 million or more illegal immigrants currently already here, and hundreds more crossing the border illegally every day.

This cannot go on forever. It just can't.

We've got an insanely overcrowded prison population as it is, and hold more people in that system than just about any other country in the world.

In recent reports, supposedly we deported 400,000 last year, and of those 128,000 were criminals. And 73% of those 128,000 were Mexican. Mexican criminals, that is. And that's 93,440 to be exact.

So how about this. As part of further immigration reform, for every Mexican criminal that is detained and deported in the US, we will strip certain repeat offenders of their US citizenship, and deposit one of these criminals somewhere over the border into Mexico.

Now you're not going to like that Mexico, are you. Because you are not only going to get back your own criminals, but you are going to get back by that same amount some of our criminals. So that YOU can deal with the problems they bring as well. Hey, what's fair is fair. We've been dealing with your criminals for decades now.

We have to make illegal immigration COST the government. THEIR GOVERNMENT TOO.

DEARLY.

OH, and one more thing.

73% is a pretty serious number. It represents the VAST MAJORITY of the problem, and thus is my only reason for only mentioning Mexico. Similar programs should be put in place in other illegal immigrant countries of origin, with and emphasis on actual percentages, tackling the highest first three countries for starters.

That ought to seriously wake up at least the top three offending foreign governments, and stir up a few more. But more than that, it needs to stir up the people in those countries to pressure their own governments to do more.

You talk as if you are involved in deporting (or catching) criminals or immigrants. You probably are just scratching ur b@lls at this very moment watching TV. Im tired of people speaking Sh!T of Mexico as if your country were perfect . . . USA shouls do something about the spill in the gulf or the problem with war going on in middle east, you are just blinded with immigrants, I wish that more job oportunities were given for those low class mexican who cross the border for a better life, and you open your eyes and suffer with all those empty jobs they do like fast food, construction, cleaning, etc

It remember me of that movie "a day without mexicans" it was hillareous to watch all that good for nothing people who can't do a thing on his/her own, i wish it really happen so you could appreciate a bit more what they do for you

that sounds like a lot and is.

I am unsure if the post was about illegals or the crowded prison system but I will take a shot at both.

I think this country should be open to any that are willing to work.....but those causing problems should be deported. Simple enough.

As for the overcroweded prisions you might want to ask yourself why the "Land Of The Free" has more of its "Free" citizans in prision than any other country in the world......why are they stripped of their rights for the rest of their lives? Why are they confascating houses, cars, bussinesses, etc because someone had a few joints on the property or they found traces of coke on money in the register?

By imprisioning pretty much EVERYONE that does not live exactly as our DC overlords say WE should.....they are different of course.....they take away a voting block that would possibly vote against their Iron grip in a velvet glove policies of taxing and looting the american citizan

Originally posted by Lalo_muniz
...open your eyes and suffer with all those empty jobs they do like fast food, construction, cleaning, etc

Well, let's see. I've actually held 2 fast food jobs, 5 construction jobs, one cleaning job, and a few others that I really don't need to mention in order to counter your point. No, I'm not some high flying American with some prejudice against Mexicans. I'm an average guy that's suffering right with them.

And I'm not going to be made to feel bad because I want to make this cost the Mexican government too. Because I have every right to.

It remember me of that movie "a day without mexicans" it was hillareous to watch all that good for nothing people who can't do a thing on his/her own, i wish it really happen so you could appreciate a bit more what they do for you

You see, you have already taken this off topic here, and have not addressed any of the issues regarding the OP. I can, have and will do any job that I am capable of doing, including these supposed "jobs" that Americans won't do anymore.

The fact that I may not do them for the same price is another issue. Let's stay on topic.

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Illegal imigrants don't take the jobs that Americans don't want, rather they take the jobs that American's don't want for the amount of pay they are willing to pay. For instance an illegal Mexican immigrant can feed his family back in Mexico with a job that pays $5-10/hour, while Americans can't. The cost of living is far too high when compared to that of Mexico, therefore they have an unfair advantage when competing for wages. Why should my family have to starve so that theirs doesn't, especially seeing how I'm paying the taxes? I can name at least five people that I know of personally that woul gladly go work out in the field or in some service position, though that simply won't put food in the mouths of their families. Unlike the Mexicans who have a much lower cost of living and therefore can survive off of those small wages, Americans don't have that luxury.

The issue is much deeper than CNN, MSNBC or FOX News would have you believe and there is much more to it.

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I think you missed the part where we entice Mexicans into coming here by giving them jobs. If we reward them with jobs if they make it why would they not come and why would Mexico try and stop them? The only way to end it is to go after the people that hire them. No one will because in the end people will have to pay more for food and stuff and that will never fly with the American public. People love to talk it up but, how many would be willing to sacrifice their earnings to get and keep them out? I think we know the answer to that.

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
I can, have and will do any job that I am capable of doing, including these supposed "jobs" that Americans won't do anymore.

The fact that I may not do them for the same price is another issue. Let's stay on topic.

In that case I would like to offer you a position as a member of my house staff. Your working rate will be 15 dollars per hour. Your responsibilities will be to give the Mexican garden labourers massages with essential oils at the end of the day and to fetch them cold beers as and when they require them.

[edit on 19-8-2010 by Arkady]

Originally posted by Lalo_muniz
You talk as if you are involved in deporting (or catching) criminals or immigrants. You probably are just scratching ur b@lls at this very moment watching TV. Im tired of people speaking Sh!T of Mexico as if your country were perfect . . . USA shouls do something about the spill in the gulf or the problem with war going on in middle east, you are just blinded with immigrants, I wish that more job oportunities were given for those low class mexican who cross the border for a better life, and you open your eyes and suffer with all those empty jobs they do like fast food, construction, cleaning, etc

It remember me of that movie "a day without mexicans" it was hillareous to watch all that good for nothing people who can't do a thing on his/her own, i wish it really happen so you could appreciate a bit more what they do for you

I guess the problem would be eliminated if the "low class mexican who cross the border for a better life" would simply obey the laws of the country he/she wishes to enter by at least attempting to follow the rules of entry. People in the US might be somewhat more sympathetic if this were so, rather than having those crossing the border illegally acting like a bunch of entitled scofflaws.

My hunch is that the vast majority of illegals coming across the border take just about every opportunity available to spit on the laws, rules and guidelines that the rest of us legal citizens work hard to follow.

Originally posted by Arkady
In that case I would like to offer you a position as a member of my house staff. Your working rate will be 15 dollars per hour. Your responsibilities will be to give the Mexican garden labourers massages with essential oils at the end of the day and to fetch them cold beers as and when they require them.

Hmm, well thanks but no thanks. I really try to avoid operations that hire illegal immigrants to begin with, but if I can't, I'll be damned if I'll work for one that allows drinking on the job.

It's one thing to ask me to work with people who only want to do the minimum with no pride in their work. Cause hey, that usually gets me to some supervisory position and more pay pretty fast. In fact, sometimes too fast for my own good. But it's beyond hopeless to mix alcohol into that situation.

This life is about developing skills, becoming the best you can at those skills, and then offering your reputation in a competitive marketplace at the highest price you can bring in. There are still many people who will pay for quality. Be quality, and they will find you.

But we still digress. Let's get back on the thread's ideas.

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no one minds the good upstanding individuals.

we're talking about the trash clogging up our prisons - costing us mucho $$$. this is money that could go to very good use. its a shame it is wasted on trash, both US and Mexican prisoners, whom cannot be reformed (and should most likely be exterminated.)

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Illegal imigrants don't take the jobs that Americans don't want, rather they take the jobs that American's don't want for the amount of pay they are willing to pay.

Illegal Immigrants only take 5 % of the jobs Americans wont do.
The rest of the jobs they are taking from Americans.