Today has been a pretty awful day, I was abused and challenged because I did not smoke and therefore could not give this gang of youths a cigarette.
These teens are out of control and are running wild in England. To all non English people reading this, these youths are called CHAVS.
I was walking out of an off license today and was surrounded by a group of teens (about 14 of them). These teens proceeded to ask if I had a
cigarette. I said in my nicest voice that I did not as I do not smoke. Then one of Chavs then called me a "useless bitch" and this set of a barrage
of insults and threats. I tried to walk away and two of the female Chavs tried to take my handbag. I resisted and said I wanted no trouble. For about
3 mins they circled me and shouted abuse which I shall not repeat on here.
Now the worse thing. I was more embarrassed than scared but there were plenty of people walking about the area as it was near a town center. Not one
person dared to see if I was ok. They all gave a wide birth and looked to the floor as they hurried by.
This is ridiculous as most were adult. But they were obviously to scared to interfere or they are members of ATS and hate my avatar. Since when did
England lose its moral code and let these hooligans terrorize people on the street. Luckily I carry a huge knife strapped to my inner thigh for
occasions like this (I bought it from Camouflage in Vancouver). This has got to stop. People in England need to find some courage and take back their
streets. I can not believe that this happened in broad daylight and no one came to see if I was OK. People are so scared to stand up for what is
right. People just pretend they did not see anything.
Have people really been brow beaten so much that helping out our fellow citizen is now a much mooted subject. Do we fear our own children. Because
that's what these chavs are. Children. what are your views on these chavs? Have they been dumbed down purposefully because they are like a race of
their own.
Well for all you foreigners who go to England I have put together a guide to the Chav and how to spot and therefore avoid a confrontation.
The Chav:
A Chav is the new breed of English sophisticate. They can be found Lurking in most city centers and parks or outside off licenses. A chavs typical
appearance is loud and abrasive, sporting large amounts of jewelry bought from Tescos (English Walmart) and wearing half mast adidas track suit
bottoms and some form of Burberry hat. They walk with their arms so far out just like they were carrying a basketball under each arm. Spotting one of
the social parasites is easy as they will normally be strutting in packs of 10 - 50 and wearing frowns on their face to make them look "ard".
Chavs seem to have an equally unpleasant reaction to other groups of people to. If you are not wearing a hoodie or a gold chain the size of new mexcio
then you too will come in for some abuse. However young the Chav seems to be do not let his or her puny and whiney voice fool you. If you point this
fact out to a Chav you are likely to receive the pent up hatred of at least 30 teeny boppers smacking you over the head with a beer bottle followed by
sounds of "git im bruv", "smak im in da face", "giz iz phone and keys mate". Unless you can show a chav that you too are of very few chromosomes
then trouble will undoubtedly come your way.
Chav are not scared of the Police because the police are the ones scared and if it affect the Health and Safety directive in the UK the the police
will not interfere in a Chavs business, the other reason is the time it takes to actually understand what the hell a Chav is saying then translating
onto paper come time to fill in the 12 dozen forms it will inevitably take to file a grievance down at the station. A group of Chavs class it as a
"honor killing" when they have surrounded and beaten up a couple of female police officers. This is one of the highest achievements a Chav can be
known for.
If in close proximity to a Chav you can tell he or she (chavette) is a chav by their apparent lack of English language skills. The following is
typical chav language to which i shall include the translation.
U startin'? - Are you looking to engage in some physical violence with me?
gir uz ya phone - Hand over your mobile communications devise or ill punch you in the face.
amazin - This is the only word a Chav uses to describe something he or she likes.
Bangin choon - I find that song very entertaining and I love its composition.
Wiickeed - I absolutely love that
Mint - Wonderful, Outstanding, superb.
ee's takin the piiisss - He has not bent to our will and therefore is in need of some extreme violence to be handed down.
Bruv - Brother, a chav uses this as a formal greeting to everyone he encounters.
Blud - "Blood" this greeting is to denote a member of their brotherhood.
Norr mate - No my friend I do not agree with you.
Proppa - This denotes when something is really good. "Thats proppa good bruv"
Here is a typical sentence by a Chav and I have included a translation.
"awright bruv. Whats appinin. I iz on ma way to tescos to git me some snouts an somfing to get me piised. Wanna cumz wif me? We cud smash up some
peeps on da way. What ya lisnin' to bruv? Some bangin choons mate? I snatched some amazin choons from dem gimbos on da estate, you no da ones. lets
bounce blud"
translation
"Hello friend, what is going on? I am on my way to tescos to buy (steal) some cigarettes and some alcohol to get drunk on. Would you like to come
with me. We could beat up some people on the way. What are you listening to friend. Some nice music? I stole some outstanding music from them idiots
on the council estate, you know them. Lets go my good friend."
Chavs are a drain on the UK economy as each one lines up to get their welfare cheque every week. They sponge money for alcohol, bad hair cuts and
their baby mummies 45 children.
Below is a great You tube video of a man standing up to a loud mouth welfare chav. On their own they are just cowards.
As an American all I can say is that it seems Kubricks "A Clockwork Orange" might have been a bit more prophetic than I originally considered it to
be!
I am sorry to hear about your experience and hope that it all turned out well and that you got through it unhurt and OK.
Very sorry to hear of your experience and can understand your feelings of frustration, disgust, disillionment, etc.
Imo, the problem of chavs is attributable to many things, to agendas, to cabals, etc. which in turn have led to legislation which has resulted in
parents and teachers being prevented from instilling consideration, respect for others and discipline, amongst other things
We train dogs and cats. We don't allow lion cubs or monkeys free rein of the zoo. We're judicious in our handling of electricity. We don't let
the steering wheel do as it chooses once we start our vehicle's motor. We don't allow any old passenger to take control of the bus or train or
plane
But children are 'hands off'. In child-care facilities, the workers are not allowed to say ' no ' to infants. In school, teachers risk their job
if they criticise or attempt to instill dicipline. In supermarkets, parents are marched away in handcuffs for giving their child a smack on the
bottom for opening and eating items from the shelves
Do we allow our pets to foul the floors and eat from the refrigerator ? No. Result being that most of our pets are more socialised, more
well-behaved than many children
If you want to destroy society very swiftly, just raise its young to believe it can do as it pleases to anyone, anytime
Chavs are the result. The result of an organised campaign to reduce society to mindless destruction, anarchy, pointlessness, etc.
There's a simple cure, of course, as any old-timer will tell you -- send the chavs to war. Those it doesn't eliminate, it might change for the
better
Take them to Afghanistan and turn them loose to strut down the streets, mouthing off at villagers who've been slitting goats' throats for so long
they could do it with their eyes closed.
Send those stroppy chavs to where the real tough people live. LOL
When they returned they'd either become reasonable members of society, or they'd be begging for beige cardigans and a quiet spot in the corner
Anyway, OP, sorry you were subjected to that ordeal. It's frightening. Gangs of morons can and will hurt their targets. Maybe one day, chavs will
become extinct and the only place you'll be able to find them will be in cages at zoos. Nice thought
Ps: saw that chav-video last year. Loved it. Showed others. Very funny : )
Wow, sorry to hear about your horrible day, though that video was awesome and made my night. It would seem that England isn't the only one with this
kind of problem, though we don't really call them "Chavs" and it isn't new at all. In fact, it's on its way out here in America, at least where I
currently live because the gangs are all about money now and so do whatever it takes to be left alone in order to make their money. The trade off
isn't really worth it because often their pursuit of money leads to violence, to include shootings.
If I had to theorize on why or how these kids grow up without basic social skills, I would say it's because of the lower standard of living and oddly
enough, the feminist movement. I say the latter because it has basically forced mothers and women of the households out into the work-force, leaving
little Johnny to his own devices and the thug down the street. I'm not saying the feminist movement was bad thing, only stating the consequences
thereof.
Again, I hope tomorrow is much better than today was for you.
Those chavs are a bunch of punks or bullies. The slight beating
he got from that homeowner reminded me of a video where the sensei of a martial arts studio here where the sensei saw a pimp beating up one of his
hookers the sensei told him to stop, the pimp got an attitude and tried to hit the sensei and he kicked him just once so hard he fell down. His
"friends" came over to help him back across the street and he kept on falling down. I wish I knew where that video was so that you can see what is
possible and to not give into these bums.
It angers me to hear how people get outnumbered on like that. It angers me even more that the cops are weak to get it under control with zero
telerance. If groups like that continue, and to expand, no one would be safe anywhere.
I like how that guy stood up to that chav....Personal note, someone up in my face like that will have their nose busted. I do not tolerate things like
that, and it tears me up knowing there are so many people out there caught without defense.
I hope you have no further experiences like that anymore...People should stand up together and defend.....they can obviousy see power in numbers like
the chavs do....I guess those people who look away will never learn.
Well, I for one would have come to your aid. I cannot stand that behaviour whatsoever. 14 of them or not, we would have made a good account of
ourselves against them, I promise you that.
I tend to carry a concealed neck knife. This can be deployed in a second and is razor sharp. I would, of course, not use it unless my life or a life
is under threat.
I say stand up to them and lets regain control of the streets.
Way to go Sassy, I hope you gave em hell. These kind of things have been around as long as I can remember since I was growing up on the streets of
Chicago. It reminds me of the movie "The Blackboard Jungle."
So how did your encounter end? How did you get out of it?
LULZ
edited to add... I liked the way the guy in the vid popped the little.......
Well ,I like you carry the knife for extreme circumstances however if anyone from England can vouch it is highly illegal to carry one even for the
purposes of defense. In England no one is aloud to defend themselves in the face of adversity and are more than likely to be the ones charged.
I hope that more people realize that there might be something to be learned from our Grandfather's time and that little hooligans need to dealt with
by the adults in the community.
As Airspoon said, children these days are left alone with caregivers or some other form of care and therefore miss out on life lessons from their
actual parents.
the only ironic thing is, that Chav parents tend not to work and spend all their time at home spend the tax payers cash.
There was a thread on here a couple weeks or so back and
that person said to use wasp/hornet spray. It can be sprayed up to 20 feet. The person in the thread said that a policeman told them to use this
method.
Hey MY2, After a few long minutes of me walking with them shouting and hurling their sophisticated talk at me I walked straight into a pub. Once in
there I told a group of guys 7 (a mix of biker types and big bearded men) that I was being harassed by some youths and needed to get to my car.
A combination of Alcohol and the "protective" element propelled these men outside to "question" the Chavs who quickly dispersed after a few more
insults being thrown at them.
I thanked them and one of them walked me to my car about three hundred meters away in a NCP car park.
I suppose if you ask for help like in my case you might get it but you need to ask some huge men who probably use tree trunks as toothpicks. Nice
guys.
If a knife cannot be carried, you must learn to adapt whatever you have with you into a deadly weapon. It is surprising how much damage an umbrella
(spelling) or even a rolled up newspaper can inflict (used in dagger fashion to increase the pressure at the end of the roll). However, when you
strike, you must do so with conviction and not stop until they run or you are beaten.
It is surprising how much damage an umbrella (spelling) or even a rolled up newspaper can inflict (used in dagger fashion to increase the pressure at
the end of the roll).
My how low you Brits have fallen....
Wasp spray, newspaper - anything but an actual weapon deasigned for defense.
*IMO, you'd wind up in jail for using a newspaper. Assault with intent to murder a Child (chavs are young)or some such.
Normally, a group of biker types, no matter how they look and especially if they have been drinking, will normally come to the aide of a lady.
Regardless of their reputation, they are quite decent and willing to help.
Just a thought. You could buy a cheap fountain pen and replace the nib with a scalpel blade, or tape a stanley knife blade to the edge of an old
credit card. These make great defensive weapons.
I agree. However unfortunately I always carry something strapped to me and something in my bag. Until governments crack down on this type of behavior
I am going to risk be arrested for the safety of my person.
I do not believe in leaving it till im in the hospital with no face left ( no face is not my best look). I believe it is everyone's right to protect
themselves no matter what.
Too bad the youth in England spoilt that for everyone as they go around stabbing people all day and night.
I will always look out for myself and so should others who feel that society is generally unsafe for the most part!