First, let me apologize to all those members that I have criticized for putting down the Florida Beaches. I have been lobbying for our beaches since
the start, and I have had many good trips to the beach. That ended today, and I am disgusted. I just finished an hour long shower for me and the
kids.
Second, let me say that I have lived in this area for 10 years. I am familiar with the normal way the beach looks, the water looks, the wildlife
reacts. I am familiar with the seasonal changes. I have ridden out storms, I know what Red Tide and storm damage looks like. I have swam at closed
beaches, I have surfed in storm surges, etc., etc.
I am going to post 5 videos and some snap shots. The videos are revealing, but they don't compare to the real thing.
Normally.......Our beaches are sugary white. The quartz is unique to this area. It leaves the Appalachian Mountains and it is pinkish. It is sun
bleached and it is so pure it squeeks when you walk on it. Of all the beaches I have experienced in Cancun, Cozumel, Jamaica, Hawaii, the West Coast,
of all of the beaches, the Florida Panhandle is by far the prettiest. It has sugar white, squeeky sand, and beautiful emerald green water, visibility
for snorkelers and scuba divers is typically almost 100 ft. There is no place better.
Today, we noticed something was......just off? The water was darker, the seaweed was worse, the beach was littered with Conch shells. The Horshoe
crabs were aggressive. The fish were jumping a lot. But, we waded in anyway. At first we thought the seaweed had made the water darker. A tropical
system passed through a few days ago, so it made sense. Once we were in the water, it felt different. It was slicker, and it burned some scrapes on
my leg. Typically the seawater is soothing to skin. Today it was uncomfortable. Still we pushed on, hate to waste a good beach day, and we were
looking forward to watching a sunset.
After some wading, we decided not to submerge and swim, it was just too dirty. We sat down on the beach and I dug down in the sand a little. To
my surprise the hole filled with chocolate colored water? This has never happened before, no matter how much seaweed or silt is present. It
NEVER penetrates the sand, and if you dig a hole you always get crystal clear water. Now I was getting very concerned!
My wife and I got up and looked more closely at the water, and we made our kids back away from it. Only now did we notice the suspended frothy brown
color. We looked at each other and down the beach and we noticed a linear striation of color. The typical bright white sand was up on the dunes, but
as we looked closer to the water, lines of darker and darker water marks were present. At the water line the sand was grey/black. I took my foot and
dug down and the sand below the surface was brown and oily looking. The water that filled the hole, even many feet from the beach, the water that
filled the hole was brown and cloudy!!
Now, the seaweed, dead conches, erratic fish behavior, and odd feeling seawater all made sense.
The dispersants are certainly working. The oil is thoroughly mixed into the sea water. It isn't washing up on the shore, instead it is embedding
into the sand. The filter fish are feeling the effects the worst. The oyster beds and shell fish are dying off. The seaweed is dying. Sadly,
people were fishing just down the beach from us!!
Here are the videos and I am still working on getting the snapshots up. Please feel free to ask questions. I am totally disheartened and upset at
this moment. My wife was feeling depressed and we went to the beach to cheer up. That was a big mistake!
edit on by SkepticOverlord because: altered thread title by permission from the author
Here is a link to the site for the State Park that contains Bald Point. It is directly adjacent to Alligator Point which is about 20 miles South of
Tallahassee, and 50 miles East of Panama City. This is very, very close to where Obama was supposedly swimming this past weekend.
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
Thanks friend, and sorry to hear it effected your vacation...
2ns
Not really vacation, we only live 15 miles away, but today was a particularly tough day for my wife, so I took off work early and we went down to the
beach, What a mistake. The beach was good less than 2 weeks ago, but it was sad today.
Wow, that’s not what you would expect to see from beaches when 75% of the oil has been recovered..
The area you were walking around looks like the sandbars on the Red River where I grew up.......Not the white sandy beaches you see in the
postcards………
My friend, although this is awful to see, this kind of thread is the essence of ATS and what we members should aspire to bring to the table.
Not satisfied with simply copy/pasting some source, you have taken the time and effort and gone out and found out the truth for yourself, documented
it for us to learn from, and acknowledged a change of your position in the process.
Thank you for doing all of the above ... much more respect than a mere star and flag could ever embody.
Yep Clouds. I have been an advocate of the dispersant this whole time. I know it has its own issues, but it seemed to be keeping the oil on the
bottom and away from the beaches and marshes. Today I see first hand that it has taken the oil, broken it down to be almost undetectable, and spread
it through the entire Gulf. Sure, it helps make the beaches look cleaner from the aerial shots. It would probably not be noticed by a novice to the
beach, because they would take it as normal. But the oil is now impossible to recover, and impossible to avoid. It is in a fine suspension in the
water. It is not floating on top or washing up as tar balls. It is just suspended and making for darker, cloudier water.
I have a degree in Chemistry, and I am a very experienced beach goer, and I allowed my kids to swim in it for probably 10-15 minutes before all the
signs really sunk in and made sense. Had I not inadvertently dug a hole in the sand a few feet up the beach, I would have blamed all the darknes and
dirtiness on the passing storm and the seaweed.
Well ,..I live in wisconsin and cannot appreciate your frustration,.
But I have empathy for the situation,..
I am sure this will only become worse as time progresses,
But it must be ok cause OBAMA says so cause he swam in the gulf
Thank you for letting us know how things really are and for the vids. I am sorry that you have been so disheatened by what you discovered today. I
hope a lot of people visit your thread so they will know not to trust a first glance, it could keep people from becoming sick. I have read several
posts today on illness in the gulf states, it saddens me deeply. I use to vacation often in Louisiana and lived in Florida for 10 years, my heart is
there. Stay safe and well! Peace
Whoa...that water is awful for the gulf coast. You're right...the sand and the seaweed do not look normal either. We vacation in Cape San Blas every
year and are scheduled to go in three weeks. Now I'm having doubts. Great videos, get. Thanks for taking the time to do this. It's important.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Whoa...that water is awful for the gulf coast. You're right...the sand and the seaweed do not look normal either. We vacation in Cape San Blas every
year and are scheduled to go in three weeks. Now I'm having doubts. Great videos, get. Thanks for taking the time to do this. It's important.
Cape San Blas is probably 30-40 miles from this beach. It is not very far. It was fine over there on my last visit, but of course this beach was
fine on my last visit as well.
Don't cancel your vacation, but if things seem odd, then skip the swimming and head over to Seaside (filmed the Truman Show there). Seaside isn't
far, and it has lots to do besides the beach. Apalchicola is a neat little town too, but it becomes boring after a day or so.
U2U me if you want any suggestions, or if you decide to visit Tallahassee while here.
Thank you so much for sharing this! I've been looking forward to seeing your videos since you mentioned them on another thread. It's sad that the
beaches are so icky. The whole situation is just saddening.
It's refreshing to see a first person view into what is going on down there. Thank you for giving us a glimpse.
Thanks for the suggestions, and I will. We'll probably go anyway, just to help support the economy in our small way. Didn't mean to sound selfish
either...this is far more upsetting for those who live there and rely on the gulf for their livelihood. And the health aspects are simply too horrible
to think about...for humans as well as the wild life. Truly sad. Again, great job in bringing this forward.
Your math is wrong.......I will let you figure it out
Nope.
Wanna try again?
25 percent of 200 is 50.
feel free to use a calculator.
And, again, I'm not saying I believe its gone.
So, care to comment on how the 'official' statement that 75-80% of the oil is dispersed into the sea means that there is none on the beaches and in
the marshes?