Fighters sent after violation of Air Force 1 airspace

Fighters sent after violation of Air Force 1 airspace

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The North American Aerospace Defense Command says military fighter jets were scambled to respond to an airspace violation near Air Force One in Seattle.

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[edit on 17-8-2010 by DamaSan]

This is supposedly why residents near Puget Sound heard two sonic booms today. Still no word on the origin of the offending Jets. More to come.

So who could this have been?
North Korea? Russia? False Flag?

Why did they do it?
Scare tactics? Response testing? Seemed like fun?

Seems hard to believe that NORAD didn't see these jets coming. Does this mean that they were STEALTH jets? Or was NORAD busy eating donuts and running confusing exercises again...

This is pretty weird. Air Force One is supposed to be one of those "un-touchable" planes... Or at least that's always been the perception most people have.

Can't wait to see what comes out of this...

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[edit on 17-8-2010 by DamaSan]

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Wow so this was near where the sonic booms were. That might explain the booms. But wow though. Big no-no. Violating AF1's airspace.

[edit on 8/17/2010 by ~Lucidity]

redundant

[edit on 17-8-2010 by LadySkadi]

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Actually the 2 F-15's that created the booms were scrambled by NORAD from the 142nd Air Nat'l Guard. According to the Wash Exam the offending plane left the airspace before an intercept was made. The claim they don't know what kind of plane it was. Which means it entered into AF1 airspace, the pilots on board AF1 contacted the pilot and told him to skidaddle and he complied before NORAD's responders could intercept him. Although unless it was an unregistered home built job, when he lands the FAA and FBI will be waiting.

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Interesting. Please provide a source link for that.

If it was some wayward plane that accidentally drifted into AF1 airspace, then I can't imagine that it could get far enough away to evade NORAD interception during that short time. I mean, if NORAD sent supersonic fighters after a civilian or commercial jet, they should have been able to catch up with it.

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It is in the first source you posted.... And while you would think they should be there lickety split, they still have to spin up the engines get taxied and then recieve in air briefing. It still takes time, thats why AF1 has countermeasures.

[edit on 17-8-2010 by djvexd]

Wow, ok so it was a sonic boom... ya I`m sure it was just a mistake and not some plot by nKorea or al Queda. Can`t wait to hear more on this, tho. What`s Obama doin around here anyway? He just "swam near the Gulf", we don`t want that Blue Fever gettin spread around here. Is it contagious? Lol, wierd stuff goin on...


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I thought so... you opened with the word "actually" which reads like you had an opposing view or info, but its the same thing.

You're right, it does take some time to get them going, but I thought that NORAD scrambles were supposed to take only 10 minutes. Even if it took 30 minutes to get the fighters off the ground, I can't imagine that they wouldn't be able to catch up to any civilian or commercial aircraft, nor would I imagine that they would give up chase.

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On a good day, from scramble alert to airborne is 10 minutes. The account for flight time. If the offending plane was some yahoo in his experimental flying on VFR and no GPS systems, an official declaration of violation of airspace and a command to head in a certain heading would be all they needed to solve the problem. Generally speaking if the local airports and NORAD could confirm the pilot turned around, then the intercept would have been called off and probably turned into and AF1 escort for a period. FBI and FAA were more than likely waiting to have a talk with the guy. While they do manage to pretty well control the air traffic around major airports like SEATAC , smaller, private, airports are a little different.
P.S. sorry about the wording issue.
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Apparently it was a seaplane. They are commonly used as taxis for people goin to and from work/college. Not sayin this was one of em, but it couldve been a taxi flier who just didnt kno what they were doin was wrong.


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I can't believe you ATS folks are still
thinking 1 dimensional ....
does anybody besides me think that
it could have been a UFO encounter?
UFO buzzing AF1 !!! It would also explain
why they could not catch up to it, nor
shoot it down and also why they broke
the sound barrier getting there.

I'd say Obama just got disclosure

Why are they scrambling the jets from Portland? WA has Air Force bases, McChord is not that far...

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Might have been rotating ready alert duties to give the squadron some flight time. Could have been maintenance issues at McChord, could have been the commanding officer of the ANG base in WA is an Obama supporter. Many reasons. From what I gather it is a pretty big honor to be picked as escort /ready alert for AF1, and they don't just allow any pilots to do it.

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Ok. Thanks. Found this comment on local news site, as well...

"142 is in charge of the Northwest Region because it is centrally located."

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I'm confused about this.

As advanced a 'jumbo jet' as AF1 certainly must be, it's still a glorified jumbo right?

I find it incomprehensible that there is not a permanent wing that flies fore and aft of AF1 all the time it's aloft!

Am i seriously to believe that there is not at least a measly couple of fighters that shadow AF1 wherever it goes when the POTUS is onboard?!

Blimey...money must really be tight over your side of the pond, if the American military can't rustle up a couple of fighters and a fuel tanker here and there!

What's the US military budget again?

Sorry guys, no ufo's or stealth from N. Korea.
Just a float plane coming back from Alaska.

Kenmore Air president Todd Banks says the incursion was by a plane that landed at his float plane base on nearby Lake Washington. A passenger, Laura Joseph of Normandy Park, told The Associated Press she and the pilot were returning from Lake Chelan in eastern Washington and didn't know of the flight restrictions. The North American Aerospace Defense Command says the plane left the restricted area before the jets arrived and there was no intercept. THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE

Link to original source

I felt the booms at work
So I gotta be quick. But first story was an unidentified craft approached AF1. Oregonlive.com and NPR. 2 jets from Portland sent. 2 jets from Boeing sent. Now story is a seafloat plane was near AF1. But had landed before jets got to location. Also posed no threat to AF1. sorry foe grammar errors.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
I can't believe you ATS folks are still
thinking 1 dimensional ....
does anybody besides me think that
it could have been a UFO encounter?
UFO buzzing AF1 !!! It would also explain
why they could not catch up to it, nor
shoot it down and also why they broke
the sound barrier getting there.

I'd say Obama just got disclosure

Because it's not a UFO:

Fighters Sent After Violation of Airforce One

Kenmore Air president Todd Banks says the incursion was by a plane that landed at his float plane base on nearby Lake Washington. A passenger, Laura Joseph of Normandy Park, told The Associated Press she and the pilot were returning from Lake Chelan in eastern Washington and didn't know of the flight restrictions.

I thought Airforce One was always escorted by fighter planes?

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Current Theories:

- "civilian accident"
- UFO flyby

Here's another theory: What if it was a terrorist (domestic or foreign) action? This incident could have been a hostile act performed against AF1.

Or maybe that group wanted to test US reaction. Just like during the Cold War, Russia and US played cat-and-mouse games with each other. Its possible someone used or will use this event as a way to plan a future attack.