The Destruction of My Generation

Your generation was the first to be raised with video games as a babysitter. Instant gratification at the touch of a button.
I don't know anyone personally that made a ton of money in the 80's, 90's or anytime - maybe you're more white collar than me. That was the glorious time for real estate and investment schemes, sure worked out great, didn't it? We let greed run wild back then so be grateful you got a piece of it.
You sound resentful and I don't blame you. This does seem to be a very hopeless period we are living in now.
Know that not everyone went along willingly with the massive war and security state. I've protested every chance I had and tried to work through government for a saner, more peaceful world.
I've failed you, your generation and my grandchildren and I cannot be more sorry.
I've raised 4 sons aged from 21 - 30. None of them are particularly money-oriented as I taught them that the important things in life are family, friends and the wonders of nature that we can all enjoy for free.
I'm afraid of what's to come for them all. The police state grows stronger and the middle class is being strangled out of existence. The media feeds us a constant diet of fear and hate. All the wonders of technology haven't cured cancer, ended poverty, war or crime. It seems most of what we invent is for purposes of destruction of control. Freedom seems like some long-lost dream, from an age when people made deals with just a handshake and people lived in actual neighborhoods and community meant something.
They have taught us too all be good consumers and to remain bystanders in the game of life. To not complain too loudly lest someone overhears us and we end up on some government list.
Tyranny has come and gone before but not without great sacrifice to restore liberty. The human spirit will only tolerate so much control and abuse before rebellion becomes the inevitable.
There is hope always. The earth can heal itself and so can humanity. It may seem that "they" have won for the time being but this too will pass.
There is a light ahead at the end of the tunnel. I doubt I shall live long enough to see things change but they will. I have faith in you to make this a better world.
Your future children are depending on you.

reply to post by GENERAL EYES


Wow.. 53 jobs, that's like Donald Duck or something!
Impressive..

I am sure I have surpassed 53 jobs by now myself! LOL

The real key here is your personal Health. Seriously, debt and pressures of consumerism have taken its toll on the masses. They are all dying of old age and they aren't even past childhood yet!

The Food is all wrong. The Drugs are designed to not heal. Water costs more than Gasoline! Stress is the ultimate killer of us all, and it is just as accumulative as any disease can become.

Take a moment to look past the illusion we call Society. Society is Satan and it isn't hard to see where this is leading. In a blink of an eye a 25-year-old will find their 50th birthday, seriously!

Once you do manage to reach those "Silver Years" you will evaluate your path more clearly, you will wonder why the worries of yesteryear were of such great concern. Perhaps this has to do with priorities or maybe even has to do with finding yourself, truly finding you!

I cannot blame my parents because they were conditioned to believe in the System. Wake up and realize that you do not have to.

As for anyone who thinks Real Estate was their answer, well you are just living off of the struggling masses and that will end soon. I wonder what kind of talent comes from Real Estate that will help you in the next 20 years. LOL The housing Bubble didn't really pop yet! Seriously! Rents are just as high as ever and the cost of a home exceeds the life of the borrower! Soon there will be a great recalculation. No jobs, little income, and a bunch of empty houses! Sounds like a great story for the investor who is still in LaLa Land. Wake up People!

Sadly we just might lose an entire Generation, but I don't see them lost to debt, I see them lost because they were sent to War. I see them lost because they are being poisoned. I see them lost because they believe they can be Rich beyond their Wildest Dreams. I see them lost because they want to believe that our World will get better if they just follow the Rules!

It is time to embrace ourselves emotionally and physically. It is time to heal, but first we have to step out of the illusion and seek that which we find most pleasurable in life, our Health! Nothing is more pleasurable than waking to a new day with the feeling of enthusiasm without pain and without dis-ease!

Forgive yourself, and open to doing one thing that helps your body and your mind. We cannot fix the problems that Society is facing because it is in motion, step in front of it and you will fail. Step away from it, release it and it cannot touch you, then we can Witness the Fall of Rome as it has been falling for a very very long time!

Originally posted by Ex_MislTech

Originally posted by Hefficide

Funny, I was born in '66 and I could identify, in theory with what you just said. I think the only difference is that I was raised to believe that the blame for lifes issues lies in the mirror and not with society in general.

Ah another person aspiring to claim they know all and that
the ppl on wall street, the government, and corporations are
not corrupt and have no impact on anyone or the planet.

How very closed minded of you, the facts stand.


You are just another opinion in a sea of opinions and when
things fall apart Wiemar style and your living under a bridge
I will tell you to look in the mirror.

You make me wanna puke.

His point wasn't that it was the OP's fault but that the OP has to assume the responsibility for his future no matter what the situation you grow up in.

Every person makes the best of the situation they have...or they don't.

Blaming society for all of your problems may be convenient and it may (rarely) even be true but it isn't going to get you anywhere.

I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that while wages remained the same... jobs became fewer and far inbetween.

The cost of living (bare neccesities no cell / video games / etc) cost of higher education ( its a freaking house ... you could actually buy a freaking house with the money 100 grand for a 4 year college for all of you still thinking you can pay for all of your school books with 50 dollars ) and after that the cost of homes now adays are waay beyond what it was when they 'had to go through it'.

Thats why lots of 'kids' are still at home. May be a good thing to keep the family unit tighter together but still... after being told from a young age that "you can go to college and if you do you can get rich and move out and start a family by the age of 25 if you work hard enough! " it's pretty degrading to morale.

The ones that didn't freak out at the cost of college and went through with it are now discovering that they cant find a job... and are now stuck with a house mortgauge of debt. Not because they picked a 'useless' major but because all jobs have been sent overseas to maintain 'profit' for the older folks.

Not to mention that now we are at war while our generation is supposed to be 'breaking out'. Wouldn't it be a scary thing if we weren't at war? More competition for job positions after mass firings would mean more hunger. This probably would have awoken the masses at a faster pace I believe.

I rambled.

Point is that things are different now than then. To deny that is just being plain stupid.

Sacrificed to war and sacrificed for profit is this generation.

I may edit to add figures that compare wages of then and now to the housing costs vs then and now to college education costs vs then and now.

Its absolutely baffling.

The thing is... its all still increasing even now!

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And it's not even the older generations fault! They were lied to as well! Things are just crashing down now... ugh the predicament this world is in is very deperessing... Wonder if there will be an influx to the amish...

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@Dock9


I was trying not to attack you...that was not my intent and I apologize if that is how it came across.

You had wrote something and I wanted to know why you felt like that. It's below here.

"Yes, your dreams in many instances aren't worth a dime. BUT -- they weren't worth a time from the start. Dreams have no substance. They're ten a penny. They usually aren't realistic"

I think as far as dreams go, you have to make a plan and take action. I don't understand why people settle for less and spend there whole life doing something they hate.

I do commend you on how you raise your kids, sounds just like my parents and how I raise my own. Once they have you by the neck in debt....they own you.

What truth are you talking about? I think I missed something here.

I have know idea why I would be bitter. Bitter at WHO?

PS: I"M NO COWARD SIR....I can assure you on that. I made my dream come true, not run the other way SCARED of it and make excuses of why it can't be done!

All I know is that most my friends who went to college didn't end up with much of anything to show for it besides all their debt, a piece of paper, and an entry level job. I did have two people who went to SMU and graduated. One ended up with a degree in creativity ... he's waiting tables. The other went to Berkley, then Law school as a graduate student for SMU ... yeah he actually landed a job. Point being, I knew better and never went to college. Got my GED at 17 and never looked back. I've still got a friend who's in college and wants to go into Medicine ... meh, I have my doubts that by the time he's out he'll find anything.. even though it's still one of the more available career options.

I certainly don't blame the individual. You'd have to be pretty short-sighted for that. I blame society in general. The international bankers have set up the system to be cut-throat. It's doubly so because we live in a capitalistic system that's now on it's inevitable path of decay. If anyone honestly thinks the system is fair-game, and you just have to work hard to make it ... they're ignorant fools. Few excel and make upper middle class or better these days. You usually have to lie, cheat, and steal to get there. Most of the people who do this are in denial and rationalize their actions. It's all a big lying mess..

Still, I don't just blame the guys who are conning the people from the upper levels, I also blame people in general for not having the moral courage to see what's happening and stand united against these oppressive forces. YES, we were systematically demoralized via educational indoctrination, and over time society in general .. but still .. we must take responsibility for allowing this to happen and move onto a higher standard.

So my gig is working as little as possible to get by. I do construction a few days a week, don't pay into the beast, and have just enough to get the bills paid. I spend my time researching what's going down, and actively talking with people in my community about the mess we're in, and how we can win this through if we just become aware of some things and take action. It's rough, but as our society deteriorates, people are becoming more willing to listen and not think I'm just spouting nonsense. There is hope in the long run... we're just going to go through a lot of pain before learning our lessons, it seems. Keep your head up, people. There's not anything else we can do. They can take away our "rights" legally, but they can't be enforced if we don't, collectively, allow it. We are SOULdiers.



[edit on 14-8-2010 by unityemissions]

This brings up a couple of issues for
me.

You surmise (not your personal belief)
that it is the fault of the previous
generation that has destroyed yours.

I was born in 1967, not technically in
the baby-boomer generation or I guess
generation-x, so what do I consider
myself. Actually I consider myself neither.

I was raised with my parents beliefs and
ethics. My father overcame polio as a
child and then raised his "first family",
my aunts and uncles when my grandfather
skipped town.

At sixteen he enlisted in the army serving
25 years. Back then they made no money.
After retiring he got a job working at 7-11
and then as a prison guard where he retired
from. He never took a vacation.

My mother also worked government jobs
retiring from civil service after 23 years.
My parents should have had some time
together but never did because my father
died a few weeks before my mothers retirement.

The government took pretty much all of
my fathers benefits except about a few
hundred bucks and by some ancient thing
Carter signed into law; people in certain
civil service positions cannot recieve their
entire retirement AND social security. My
mother fell into that.

I now give my mother about a quater of
my income so she can make her bills. That
is not an obligation, that is my duty.

If the OP is actually worried about how
tough things are now, I am very concerned
about the future of not only our country,
but everyone in general when things get
really hard because they can and more than
likely will.

reply to post by Ace High


We were all taught wrong, to spend, spend, spend to show prosperity when in fact we should have been taught to pay cash for everything otherwise it’s living a lie. We should have been taught to live within our means.

Rising real estate was a lie and they didnt warn us. Many knew but were afraid to bust our bubble. Now we will continue to see one bubble burst, after another.

The way I see the economy is not in a V shape, not even a W. It appears to be the beginning of a double dip recession. The forecasts for recovery are wrong.

The best thing to do now is save or buy silver and gold. Our identity is not drivng a 2010 model car anymore. The smart ones will survive this mess, if we change our thinking.

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I think he has good reason to blame someone. If we think about Social Security shortages, trillion dollar deficit, etc. We are in deflation now and will get worse leading to very high inflation. If the Fed doesnt make some drastic changes soon we might get hyperinflation. No one want to make a move before elections. Politics will be the death of our society.

I remember being told growing up stuff like "you can be anything you want to be." Some even told us we could be president of the United States if we worked hard towards it. That is quite obviously a lie. They had us filled with foolish dreams instead of teaching us reality.

I also remember being told that all I needed to do to succeed in life was 'go to school, make good grades, and you can get a job anywhere'. I was also told to 'stay in school, because no one will hire a dropout'. They showed me charts on how much more money people made by having a college degree, etc.

So, I went to college, got a degree, and discovered the jobs in that field had been shipped overseas while I was in school. So, I went back to college to get another degree, because I still stupidly did not get it, thinking that it was some sort of fluke. So then I got another worthless degree. Now I am a thesis away from having my master's degree and that degree is worthless to me as well because that field is laying off. LOL So I'm over $130k in student loan debt with no way to pay it and places like McDonald's refuses to hire me saying I am "overqualified." So I have discovered at long last that in order for me to even have a shot at getting a job, I have to lie about my work history (since I don't really have any other than Wal-mart and work study jobs) and pretend I never even went to college! And then I have to hope I don't get caught if I do get a job! But I've been turned down for jobs for years now because I have no real work history (because no one would give me job) and it's totally messed up. I was told to stay in school to succeed and I'm not even allowed basic jobs because I did just that.

Even moreso, people I went to school with who dropped out of high school have no problem getting a job. LOL That's messed up!

I would have been better off had I dropped out of high school like I wanted to and went to work as a teen instead of making honor roll and being academically successful.

Originally posted by Hot_Wings
What is in parenthesis are my comments...

My comments are in yellow.

(once again it's not we, but you, and no, you just never read the damn book and studied)

Run on sentence.

(this is a fragment and not a sentence, go back to school)

Use punctuation. Correctly: This is a fragment and not a sentence. Go back to school.

(only fools think this and guess what, that's was just you again)

This is a run on sentence. Correctly: Only fools think this. And guess what? That was just you again.

(no, WE, didn't do this, only you did and the other self important fools did this without checking what the value of their home was the years before they intended to buy it)

Wow! Use punctuation please!

(You might want to read about what “verbs” are, they make what we call “English” possible).

You might want to research proper "English" grammar before you call people out.

(with “A” very limited future, and no, that's just you again.).

Seriously, your grammar sucks.

(No, your paying the price of your own failures and blaming others for it because you don't want to take responsibility for your own mistakes)

No, YOU'RE paying the price of.............

You brought this onto yourself. You made an ass out of yourself.

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Everybody reading this had a hand, one way or the other, in building this monster. The thing to focus on is that this monster doesn't give a hoot who built it, it's going to eat us all.

I don't believe in a "lost generation" but I do believe there can be a "last" generation and if the best we can do in the way of battling this monster is play the blame game we probably are on the last leg.

All I really know is that the only sure way to fail is to not try. We better get past the political correctness and not wanting to get our hands dirty because the bed's on fire and we're all in the damned thing.

As for myself, I aim to go down swinging because it ain't over till it's over. Anybody ready to kickass and take names?

Originally posted by Jessicamsa
I remember being told growing up stuff like "you can be anything you want to be." Some even told us we could be president of the United States if we worked hard towards it. That is quite obviously a lie. They had us filled with foolish dreams instead of teaching us reality.

I also remember being told that all I needed to do to succeed in life was 'go to school, make good grades, and you can get a job anywhere'. I was also told to 'stay in school, because no one will hire a dropout'. They showed me charts on how much more money people made by having a college degree, etc.

So, I went to college, got a degree, and discovered the jobs in that field had been shipped overseas while I was in school. So, I went back to college to get another degree, because I still stupidly did not get it, thinking that it was some sort of fluke. So then I got another worthless degree. Now I am a thesis away from having my master's degree and that degree is worthless to me as well because that field is laying off. LOL So I'm over $130k in student loan debt with no way to pay it and places like McDonald's refuses to hire me saying I am "overqualified."

Jessica, that is exactly the type of indoctrination that I am talking about. I agree completely. The "path" that was taught to use was more like a trap. Of course, I'm not saying that these parents did it on purpose, they just didn't understand what they were doing.

Good luck with your student loans. I certainly hope the job market begins to recover.

reply to post by Ace High


Im in the exact same club as yourself and im going to be honest.

Give it ten years and you will look back on this having learned that all this junk that we have doesnt mean anything whatsover. If you have it done right you will have a great family that loves you, great friends that adore you, a secure future regardless of money, faith in the truth of why the world has become so mad and a livelihood that while it may not match your fake educations expectations it will give you food for yourself and those you care for.

At the end of the day how smart you want to be is up to you, what you do is up to you and how you learn from your own life is upto you. Simply match the offerings above for others and you will have it in return.

Dont worry about the future mate. Im 24 and ive already been through the worst (holding a door shut with repo agents at my door, warning them to stay away etc) but ive learnt to accept what I am and what life is about. Use your tough times to learn wisdom and you will never go wrong regardless of the greed.

I still have my home right now, im out of arrears, I now have a stable job, I have good food to eat, I have a woman that loves me and I love her, I have a healthy family as well. Is there anything more we should really want??

You'll be fine chief, just hold on to life and your strength will prevail.

About the ten year comment I just made, im only saying that because thats what it will take the majority, your on ATS so I doubt it will take that long for you.

Its not the previous generations faults, if people took time to listen to their elders they might learn something, I dont mean everyone, I mean the smart ones.

All the best mate.



Relax...



Worrying about the future is just going to stop it from happening.


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I have two sons- both resourceful and sharp lads. they have managed to piece it together- tenacity.. which is great, only it takes so dang long..

I'm just going to pop in for a second and remind people that this was all done by design. We had the KGB infiltrate our country and use subversion to destroy it. Of course, people must realize that the KGB is an intelligence network in communist Russia, and communism was setup by the Rothschilds after taking out the royal family early in the 20th century.

This all leads back to the banking elite once again. They are destroying western civilization to implement a global communist dictatorship. XXXN3O, sorry buddy you're still young and naive. It's not getting better until the people are educated and stand united against this global cabal and behead these psychopathic elite.

Learn of the red-shield and how it has it's tentacles involved in practically every major world event. It's our only way out.

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reply to post by unityemissions


I agree with you in part but what I disagree with you on is the fact that people think we are all under an iron foot right now and helpless.

If you have no money and cannot get money, dont focus on money then because its a waste of time. Focus on what you need most, once you get that, build on it and take it from there is what im saying.

Rejecting the rules completely is a different story but I dont care how many people there is, it wont happen because of the education everyone has and the need of a nights sleep.

When people reject society they default to smash the whole thing up, that just generates insurance claims, more laws, more police and more restrictions.

Young and naive thats fine if you think that but theres not many people my age who when faced with foreclosure learn laws to get there mortgage written off through a loophole in court, fish to get food until they got a job, fix there car to get to work when it was a wreck and provide for the people in my house including a parent at times of need in crisis with money etc.

Im just saying we can all sit on our bums and hope for better but its never gonna happen if we dont lift it at times when we desperately need too regardless of who is responsible.

We all hide behind society taught weakness, if a policeman is being unjust you have right to defend yourself just the as if anyone in the street went to attack you, if your in a shop bargain for cheaper goods, if someones ripping you off dont stand for the crap, if a banks taking the biscuit walk away with your cash, if an employers abusing you as an employee take them to court, if the governments being a pain in the ass protest or campaign for others, if your homes being threatened learn how to defend it. We all have the internet at first, a phone, some money left if we lose our jobs, seas nearby to find food, dont do anything to others that you wouldnt deserve yourself unless you act like they are. Its just that we are conditioned to think we really need all this crap that exists. The real truth is that we really dont need it, we support it. Until we dont support it, its always going to be there but that doesnt mean you have to be a part of it.

If you can tell me a better system of how you can rule the world then thats brilliant but to everyone else you would be a dictator. Its never going to change even if it changes. Its the same old game and its ending will be the same too.

Took me 12 months of unemployment before I learned how to lift my butt from a chair of applications and do something about it so dont think im being completely idiotic and judgemental. Took me another 6 months to get a job but ill tell you one thing, I dont regret it because I know I have the need to back myself up in the system and out now.

I mean, the media right now when they talk about the whole economic collapse is speaking about how it was caused by subprime loans that were not good bets etc, they are even saying that the loans were given without proper checks. That means most of these loans are not correctly done, ie, loophole. People should be scrambling to find them and get themselves out of it but instead they read the paper that says "pay this now" and they pay something and before you know it they are out of a home, out of a job etc.

This world works on diplomacy these days in society, people need to learn it fast and they will be fine. You get what you give, smash it up and it will smash you up. Speak, write and learn the right ways and your fine, just stop believing you need someone else to pay to do it for ya. Fight it with your fists alone and its ready for you. Until theres no food it wont get better and by then its too late because everyones too weak to fight.

Theres two sides to every coin is all im trying to say, flip it once in a while please.



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reply to post by Ace High


I was born in 63, just two months before JFK was taken out. My folks are one generation older than yours. We are all in the same boat as you basically, you are certainly not the only generation suffering. I am in my prime and feel there is little to no future here in my own country, I have seen, through having a few more years on you, how completely laid to waste our country has become. You name it-family, education, health care, infrastructure, morals, compassion, understanding, integrity of institutions, the list goes on and on and on. We have become an military-police corportate slave state and it is up to your generation, mine and the younger ones to either stand up and take it back or just keep lettin' the good times roll.

You think YOUR generation is bad? Try generation Y. My generation is horrible and you better hope we never get the government......anything and everything goes.....total chaos!

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