Pat Tillman Documentary Stirring Controversy

August 20,2010 "The Tillman Story" comes out and is currently battling it's R rating.

(Aug. 13) -- An R-rated letter from Pat Tillman's father to a general and a battle over an R-rating are among the controversies brewing in anticipation of the Aug. 20 release of "The Tillman Story."

The documentary is based on the death of the Arizona Cardinals safety turned Army Ranger, who was killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan

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This can either get barely seen and not cause a ripple or could shed a whole new light on corruption in the military. We all know how much more people care when they see movies or tv than reality. What happened to Tillman and many other soldiers needs to be exposed for exactly what it is.

[edit on 13-8-2010 by Adevoc Satanae]

I brought this Pat Tilman incident up years ago when people were still ranting the disillusioned rhetoric about the war on terror and Afghanistan.

I am fairly certain that Tilman saw something that he wasn't supposed to discuss because after he was killed his diaries and other personal effects capturing his thoughts on his day to day experiences suddenly disappeared.

He was becoming very outspoken about the war and immediately before he was killed , he had agreed to partake in a journalistic interview on his next leave back home to the US.

I am also fairly certain that McChrystal's name was involved somewhere in the chain of command and subsequent cover up of Tilman's Death.

Is it true that he couldn't get in contact with his unit in the canyon and they thought he was one of the enemy and fired on him?

OK, so I know that they are saying Tillman was killed by friendly fire; making the official story a lie. But what I don know is: Are they accusing the military of intentionally killing him? Like as in murder?

If it was accidental "friendly fire" (as if there is such a thing), then I see no big deal with the official story. Cover-up? Maybe. But, perhaps they were simply giving a hero a death worth of a hero.

So, what exactly is the cover-up here? the method of his death or the motivation behind it?

There is an interview right now with some folks that I guess were with Tillman in the firefight that lead to his death. I missed the beginning but it is on MSNBC right now if anyone is interested.

Wikileaks is also reporting that Pat Tillman's death is missing from the Afghan war files they leaked.

So it makes one wonder Military cover-ups are real...and the American people are being lied to in so many ways. A person is killed and the official version is fabricated, with a latter leak that does not contain an incident report of Tillman's death.

Let's say I die tomorrow in an accident here in Korea. I come here with my medical record (as we are required to). The admin office also lost my record about a year ago. There's my ESR on NSIPS, but it's hardly updated like it should be, and rarely reflects anything that's happened within the past year.

I am a member of the ATS forum and have been critical of the administration and some of the policies in effect.

There's the making for a good story - but the two are unrelated. Records get lost and misplaced in the military. It's hardly what one would call 'organized.' Certainly, it does not live up to ATS-community standards of what the military should be like (some sort of ruthlessly efficient machine with omniscience regarding its members).

I was a member of ATS before joining the military - and, it's nothing like I had envisioned it. In all likelihood, the paperwork was lost or - shockingly - not in the leaked reports to begin with (as it would not be the place to look for them).

There are plenty of people in the military who are very outspoken on various issues and on various sides of the debate. It's no secret. Some of them agree to interviews (when they really shouldn't - the media gets a shot of someone in a uniform talking politics and the country goes ape# ) on the side.

Additionally, friendly fire happens quite often. Accidents happen. People get caught up in them. As much as I would like to believe -someone- has some kind of omniscient knowledge of what is going on in the military - it's simply not the case. It's a human organization that does the best it can with what it's given (which is often little of what is needed and too much of "what the hell are we supposed to do with that?!").

And as much as we Americans like to think we are instantly distinguishable from the rest of the world - we look a lot like any other gook stalking around with a rifle from a distance. Unfortunately, we've yet to perfect a technology that allows us to tell our guys: "Don't shoot him, dummy!"

There's a saying among Murphy's Laws of Combat: "The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire."

Controversy is good.

Because people who would not otherwise pay attention start getting curious and start paying attention. After all, no-one wants to be the ignoramus who can't participate in the water-cooler chat. Then they start asking questions. Eventually, more people start asking these questions and someone in the government either has to respond satisfactorily or face public scrutiny and ousting. Well, ideally.

Originally posted by Aim64C
Let's say I die tomorrow in an accident here in Korea. I come here with my medical record (as we are required to). The admin office also lost my record about a year ago. There's my ESR on NSIPS, but it's hardly updated like it should be, and rarely reflects anything that's happened within the past year.

I am a member of the ATS forum and have been critical of the administration and some of the policies in effect.

There's the making for a good story...

well i hope your friends and family would make a documentary about it...

my seocnd line is confused.

[edit on 20-8-2010 by pryingopen3rdeye]

my gut feeling is this:

Tillman was a PR tool pushed to try to sell the war/build recruitment. Pat discovered what bull# this was once he got over there, was about to spill the beans, and was silenced.

My 2c

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I do not know why there is mystery around this person; although, it seems clear that his death story was contrived. Your hypothesis does make some sense though based on how high the cover-up went.