United Nations, Alan Greenspan now implicated in $134.5 billion bond scandal

Originally posted by charlie0
An international investigation of what is certain to be the largest financial fraud in history (involving at least $1 trillion) is now implicating former US Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan and UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, according to CIA, MI6, Opus Dei and Interpol sources.

Is it me or are the groups reporting this highly suspicious themselves? Did Greenspan p*ss in the CIA's cornflakes or what?

Even Jeff Rence who has Fulford on his show occasioanally just shakes his head over some of the things Fulford comes out with...
I would wait for verification...
He has credentials like having been an editor for a known publication...
But some of the things he says are just right out there, and not verified at all.

Oh, man, you're gonna have to call me a skeptic on this one.

This fellow's blog appears elsewhere frequently, and I've yet to find one believable. Actually not being one involved in high, high finance (or any fiance) I came across twists and turns in his story that defied my imagination to accept.

I will definitely agree, however, tat whole episode reeks of underhanded, probably illegal activities. It wouldn't surprise me if it didn't tie into the tungstun/gold bar isssue that was also swepted under the rug without a proper airing.

Ron Paul wonders if there is any gold left in Ft. Knox. and now, me too.

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Why ask "Why do people post blogs as sources?".

First of where do you expect criminal activity to be posted? At the police stations website?
Or Fox News? People that are filthy rich or have alot of money can get away with many crimes. They also can make media outlets to not talk about anything about what they are accused of behind the scenes.

So for you asking such a question seems your brainwashed. You want sources like Fox News that in college are named to be creditable.

Like I said I think the OP isn't saying this is 100% percent solid proof and should be believable. I think he is trying to get ATS members to follow up on this story and try to see where else or other sources you can find that could help make this story more creditable.

Yes I know blogs are made by anyone and yes there are many out there saying some weird stories some are made up and some are partial true.

Like I said I thought ATS is about finding the truth together and deny ignorance.



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This is the same guy that said stuff like this?

www.morningliberty.com...

Do you guys really buy this garbage? Is ATS now no better then a tabloid?

The extreme environmental destruction and the deliberate failure to put an end to the oil leaks are all part of the dark cabal’s bargaining strategy since all they have left to bargain with now is the threat of mayhem. At the same time, a senior oil industry source has approached the White Dragon Society with an offer of $60 billion a month to be spent on saving the planet so long as the money goes through the Vatican, the BIS and the Federal Reserve Board.

Really? Were being serious here? Were really debating this guys blog?

Ok...checked into it and there are a few sites stating there is some sort of conspiracy...hahahaha...basically that its a financial war covering the last several decades (Centuries). Basically "The White Dragon Society" has reported offering the Vatican and other Countries up to 60 billion a month to "end poverty" and balance the worlds finances writing off all the countries debts and to bring together in a truce jews, muslims, and christians.

Apparently they talked with the vatican and they told them no. Somehow or another the Vatican was offered this but refused because they would have to "disclose" the corrupt financial system that has enslaved people for lifetimes....so they denied the money or something.

What I got figured out is that one way or another some of these gold bonds owned by the White Dragon Society to be used for the above purposes was siezed and exploited by different governments to be used for their own interests instead of what the "White Dragon" required as terms for the gold bond usage (ending poverty-uniting humanity).

From what I gathered there is supposed to be a "disclosure" and the White Dragon Society is going to be behind the restoration of balance financially...because they have like trillions in gold bonds...

Originally posted by Ciphor
Really? Were being serious here? Were really debating this guys blog?

Yes, we are.

Think about it, blog sites or sites like ATS or sites like Youtube are perfect places for people to post news and intel that doesn't get covered by mainstream media.

Information is information, it doesn't matter whether it's posted in a blog or on an MSM site.

Not all information posted in blogs is true, of course.

But information isn't untrue just because it's posted in a blog either.

Remember, Fulford used to be a Bureau Chief for Forbes Magazine. He has also authored many books and seems to have quite the loyal following in Japan.

Recently I discovered in Tokyo an ancient shrine that has been sealed off from public view. When I entered the Shrine I felt a powerful subjective sensation of white light and power. I was with a Japanese psychic whose family has long guarded secret Shinto knowledge, including of the Goddess Benten. She also claims to have seen a white light and experienced unusual power there. At the entrance to the shrine we found a stone pillar with the inscription 白龍王　meaning “the White Dragon King.”

In legend the Goddess Benten was supposed to have married a powerful white dragon in order to stop it from killing children. Because of this unusual occurrence (yes I really did find such a place by accident), we have decided to rename the Black Dragon Society as the White Dragon Society.

The White Dragon represents warriors who obey the rules of Chivalry and Bushido. That is to say, they will never strike the first blow, they will never attack women, children and non-combatants and they will fight to defend the weak and the downtrodden.

We remain sympathetic to the philosophy of the original Black Dragon Society founded by Mituru Toyama and others. However, while the Black Dragon Society had an Asian orientation, the White Dragon looks to protect the entire planet, including the weakest living creatures.

May 26, 2010

www.fourwinds10.com...


While it may seem premature to include Egypt in this list since they formally signed a peace treaty with Israel, Egypt is definitely headed for regime change. It should also be noted Turkey has a state-of-the-art NATO-equipped military Nor is the United States likely to intervene militarily on behalf of Israel given the current political situation in the US these days.

It should be noted that the offer of $60 billion a month to the White Dragon Society was made contingent on coming up with some sort of settlement of ancient disputes between the three main peoples of the book: the Jew/Protestants, the Vatican and the Muslims.

The solution is really quite simple to reach now that the nightmarish Satanic plan to enslave humanity is coming to an end: live and let live. If you look at the situation objectively you will see there is no reason for conflict between these groups, all the fighting and strife between them has been artificially engineered.

As usual, there is a lot we are being asked not to report at present in order to prevent ongoing, sensitive negotiations and preparations from being derailed. We do not expect any public announcements yet but we can say that this week’s Bilderberg meeting in Spain is being countered by a secret, extremely powerful non-Bilderberg meeting elsewhere. The secrecy is only temporary and is meant to protect people’s lives until the situation is ready for the long-awaited public announcements. Until that happens, hope for the best and prepare for the worst.


www.morningliberty.com...

Originally posted by cupocoffee

Originally posted by Ciphor
Really? Were being serious here? Were really debating this guys blog?

Yes, we are.

Think about it, blog sites or sites like ATS or sites like Youtube are perfect places for people to post news and intel that doesn't get covered by mainstream media.

Information is information, it doesn't matter whether it's posted in a blog or on an MSM site.

Not all information posted in blogs is true, of course.

But information isn't untrue just because it's posted in a blog either.

Remember, Fulford used to be a Bureau Chief for Forbes Magazine. He has also authored many books and seems to have quite the loyal following in Japan.

That's good and all. However he has also been caught making up ridiculous stories. 9 out of 10 of his blogs never come true. Never ever never. I'll chalk this one up as another story that will never unfold. This case will close by the end of the day and another word will never be heard of it.

Waste of time, in my honest opinion. Could be putting our focus on factual news.

I just don't see how this is a bigger subject on ATS then something like.. the Iranians digging huge graves for US soldiers for example. a Real story with something other then a blog to back it up.

Here is a good idea of what is going on when contrasted with the OP...sounds like there are some huge silent battles going on with TPTB...


sbeckow.wordpress.com...


The following post was published on Share11 by Chris. Fulford reports that the meeting between the White Dragon Society and the Vatican did not go well. He speculates that the Vatican is trying to block the new abundance program.

Of course SaLuSa and Matthew have said that the program cannot be blocked and does not depend on Vatican approval. They also say that the announcement of the abundance program will follow disclosure.

The Vatican is now the last obstacle to the new financial system

Talks this Monday between a representative of the White Dragon Society and two senior Vatican representatives (including the Papal Nuncio or ambassador to Washington) did not go well. The Vatican insist they have a right to steal trillions of dollars that do not belong to them because “the survival of the church is at stake.”

This is simply not true, they are simply blocking the announcement of the new financial system because of a lust for raw power. The Vatican Banker, Daniele Del Bosco, who has hidden the close to $1 trillion in gold-backed bonds, has been trying to cash them with the help of a fraudulent organization known as the Office for International Treasury Control or OITC. An Interpol investigation has revealed the OITC has no mandate and no right to these funds.
The funds Del Bosco is hiding were earmarked to help Portugal, Spain and Italy end their respective financial crises. The $134.5 billion in bonds confiscated at the Italian/Swiss border in June of 2009 were linked to these funds. Del Bosco is about to be placed on an international wanted list and is now under 24-hour observation.

We can also add that according to both CIA and Yakuza sources, the Vatican dispatched two separate assassination squads to Japan with the goal of killing and silencing this writer. They seem to be under the mistaken belief doing so will suddenly give the Vatican the ability to cash these funds.

The Vatican will be provided financing to help it survive but only after they purge the Satanists from their top ranks.

We must also mention the new financial system is designed to finance a campaign to end poverty, stop environmental, end war and set humanity and life on a path for exponential expansion. The fact that the Vatican leadership is trying to prevent this from happening is good proof that they are going against the teachings of both Jesus Christ and of Roman Catholicism in general.

benjaminfulford.typepad.com...

Originally posted by Danbones
Even Jeff Rence who has Fulford on his show occasioanally just shakes his head over some of the things Fulford comes out with...
I would wait for verification...
He has credentials like having been an editor for a known publication...
But some of the things he says are just right out there, and not verified at all.

I'm with ya on that one. I remember some of Fulfords old vids (which can be found on rense.com), especially the one where he tells the NWO to cease and desist or he will unleash his 6 million ninjas upon the world to take care of them
Then there was the interview with Rockefeller that ended rather odd after Rock calls him into a private conversation, and Fulford comes out all puzzled and awe struck (seems Rockefeller knew Fulfords dad or grandfather). I emailed Fulford a good while back calling him out, and never heard back from him.

edit: forgot to add that Fulford was a (financial) correspondent in Japan for either ABC or CBS (I forget which one).

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Originally posted by Ciphor

Waste of time, in my honest opinion. Could be putting our focus on factual news.

I just don't see how this is a bigger subject on ATS then something like.. the Iranians digging huge graves for US soldiers for example. a Real story with something other then a blog to back it up.

Well, it would be great if all these different power groups like the Bilderberg group, CIA, MI6, the Federal Reserve Board, Goldman Sachs, the BIS, the Vatican, the Queen, the Yakuza, the Black/White/Red/Green/Purple Dragon Society etc etc would allow reporters with cameras in to all their super-secret meetings so we could all see what's really going on.

But, they don't; so all we have to go on are these various sources with varying levels of credibility.

One thing I have noticed is that Fulford's stuff will usually get corroborated by at least two or three other sources. So that tells me that either he is as well-connected as he claims to be, or he is actually an intelligence operative/disinfo.

Same thing with Story ( RIP ) and Heneghan and 'Casper' and a few others.

I have no problem with using a blog as a source BUT, the blog doesn't even use sources itself so it's in essence it has no credibility.

Besides, the other articles on that blog were just as iffy. A one man conspiracy blog with no sources... sorry..

Originally posted by againuntodust
I have no problem with using a blog as a source BUT, the blog doesn't even use sources itself so it's in essence it has no credibility.

Okay but how do you create "sources" for secret meetings that aren't filmed, photographed or otherwise recorded?

Sorry to say but the actions of the money and power hungry don't impress me one bit.

I caught a blurb today about helping the people in Pakistan.
Although I feel a lot of pain for them, any help would have to come from the rich Elite, The Roschilds, the English Monarchy including the Industrial Military complex who have the biggest bite of the worlds resources.
The UN doesn't take into account the effects of HAARP, or the fact that Pakistan is being taken over by stealth and threath population reduction is getting a helping hand by all of this. We are just pawns but trying to beg money from what is left of the world's monetary resources that all over the world we need to survive ,and the fat cats could wipe Pakistan's problems with the signing of their name.
Follow the money and also the future plans for domination and it all goes to the same people.
Once I found out that any crazed idiot could destroy this planet
without any safeguards at the touch of a button has hardened me to anyone without any sensitivity for humankind.
Sorry to be so negative , but I treat everyone like a brother or sister and even talk to plants and animals , emitying universal love. Peace!Shalom, La Paix pour tous!

Originally posted by cupocoffee

Originally posted by againuntodust
I have no problem with using a blog as a source BUT, the blog doesn't even use sources itself so it's in essence it has no credibility.

Okay but how do you create "sources" for secret meetings that aren't filmed, photographed or otherwise recorded?

You don't create sources you just make them available. The information had to come from somewhere. Just show where. If there is no "where", then that means the info came from the imagination.

This guy has some remarkable insider info from the movers and the shakers that bestride the Earth.

oh and did i happen to mention that ......

Last week the Japanese yakuza, at a secret meeting with the White Dragon Society, agreed to form an alliance with the white hats in the Pentagon and the world’s intelligence agencies. The aim is to find a new legal structure for the Yakuza to operate as a quasi-governmental organization by the time the head of the 50,000 man Yamaguchi Gumi syndicate comes out of prison next April.

link


.....

I recall this interview with David Rockefeller .



Quite a story there Mr.Fulford





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At least part of that excerpt may not be that farfetched. The CIA and Yakuza have indeed worked together. It's possible that other intelligence agencies have as well.

Sounds sort of like the UN Oil for Food debacle of 2007 but worse. In the billions too. en.wikipedia.org...

This part almost sounds like a Nigerian prince phishing scam.

The nominal head of the OITC is a Cambodian of royal blood by the name of R.C. Dam. Mr. Dam was at one point recognized as having the nominal rights to a large pool of gold owned by the various royal families of the world. sbeckow.wordpress.com...

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"People do not like being killed."
-Ben Fulford

ok, i thought. maybe this guy is a genius who knows what he is talking about.

but then he goes and says that he could have had David Rockefeller brought to him all tied up and with a vibrator in his backside, and i began to think that maybe Mr. Fulford is slightly out of touch with reality.

even if it isn't true, obviously Mr. Fulford is a pawn in somebodies game, even if it is Mr. Fulford's game.