Reading a Terrorist Mind

Reading a Terrorist Mind

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Researchers at Northwestern University take a step toward reading terrorists' minds. CNN's Josh Levs explains.
Mind reading technology! Science fiction reality! 1984 is now! www.youtube.com...

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Title changed to reflect the exact headline

[edit on 8/11/2010 by semperfortis]

This could very well be the next intrusive airport scanner and the way too easy to abuse thought crime accuser, especially when it goes wireless which you can see in the you-tube link, if someone can embed the you-tube link it would be appreciated. This kind of thing isn't justifiable by using the age old "if your not up too anything what have you got to hide argument" and if it is going to be used, it should be strapped to the one percent of the population that owns everything first. That would be the only good that could come of this, not like that would happen though.

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[edit on 8/11/2010 by semperfortis]

It may be time to buy stock in tinfoil hats. This is getting beyond crazy. What next? The Thought Police?
I have to tell you, the end of the world is starting to look better and better every day.

(WARNING: Wine Rant)


HAHAHAHA you have to find them first! Apparently it's hard to find homegrown terrorist's and terrorist cells (the guy formerly know as Zach Chesser and Al-Shabaab), even when they are within the perimeter of the US's largest government intelligence hub, of which has tens of thousands of government agencies and contracted corporations, most of which are for double and triple checking.

The South Park creator's death threat maker, Zach (above) grew up less than a mile from me. I am also less than 3 miles away from the NRO and numerous CIA headquarters. He is associated with Al-Shabaab. Now imagine that he didn't just threaten South Park but did something more devious. He could have blown up a government building or two with the help of his friends. Even with all our double and triple checking and technology we still can't find these guys. To me it shows GROS negligence and incompetence. We have sacrificed so much freedom, and for what? NOTHING. IF there are results, where are they? Either they stop this crazy mission to eliminate terrorists under the guise of National Security, or they show results.

Until then I will maintain a full lack of faith in our government, the government of the United States.

That said, I find this so funny, bordering on the side of BS.

This is nothing against the OP, or the topic. Both are great. It's just we can't even find who are looking for right now with satellites that see through key holes.

It is just a matter of time until we have another 9/11.

[edit on 10-8-2010 by SubPop79]

Now this is just f***kin ridiculous. If they already can't lock you up and throw away the key for no reason at all now they can read the thoughts of "terrorists" which i'm sure almost everyone that is patriotic, owns a gun, or someone who is against the governments policies falls under anyway. This is madness. No its the new america.

Yes, yes, new technology is scary. . . but also inevitable. Fussing about it's very existance never did anyone any good.

If an airline wants to subject it's passengers to a certain type of scan they should be allowed to. If it's too intrusive people can choose not to fly. You don't have the right to fly, or the right to choose which security measures you are subjected to when you fly. You have the right to avoid the brain scan by not doing the things that require the scan, namely flying.

You're prepared to dismiss this technology without seeing the actual results? What if it actually makes flying safer without a significant number of false positives? It's not like you can be arrested based on your brain scan; they will just subject you to further screening or refuse you entry.

It's a measuring device like any other. Isn't it a good idea to take systematic measurement of the variables which are good predictors of malicious intent? Shouldn't we profile the people who's brains look like the brains of people who are about to blow up airplanes, when those very people are about to get on a commercial airliner?

If it's not worth it to go through this in order to fly, you just won't fly. In fact, if you continue to fly even with manditory brain scanning, then by definition the benefits of flying outweigh the costs of having your brain scanned. If it wasn't worth it to you, you wouldn't do it. You have a choice, I'm sorry that it's a tough one for you to make, but get over it.

reply to post by DrunkNinja


i think it is called empathy, and it has been around for ages, i think.


reading peoples thoughts. and paying people to do it on you. nice system. how many laws are there? don't know? don't live long enough to learn how many laws there are? pay taxes to pay more people to make more laws, that oughta help.

have a nice day,
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Thought crime rings a bell here? And abusive too as any program can be altered or hacked.

Originally posted by Unity_99 And abusive too as any program can be altered or hacked.

Right, so we might as well do away with everything ever because it can be misused.

My prediction is that in the future the definition of terrorism is going to widen and widen.

But in direct response to the content of the OP, this is only a fraction (I would suggest less than 0.1%) of the kind of understanding needed of reading the brain to determine if some one is a terrorist.

The problem is, that some corporation will force the government into adopting such a faulty system and covering up the flaws. This news program is just the shock testing that goes on years in advance of programs like these being implemented onto the populous, to see if we are docile enough to accept it yet.

Originally posted by OnceReturned


It's a measuring device like any other. Isn't it a good idea to take systematic measurement of the variables which are good predictors of malicious intent? Shouldn't we profile the people who's brains look like the brains of people who are about to blow up airplanes, when those very people are about to get on a commercial airliner?

If it's not worth it to go through this in order to fly, you just won't fly. In fact, if you continue to fly even with manditory brain scanning, then by definition the benefits of flying outweigh the costs of having your brain scanned. If it wasn't worth it to you, you wouldn't do it. You have a choice, I'm sorry that it's a tough one for you to make, but get over it.

See its comment like this that are soooo paramount of the lack of insight so many on here show. You are justifying having our privacy invade for NO reason at all.

I ask you this.

HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW THAT HAVE BEEN BLOWN UP ON A COMMERCIAL PLANE?????????????? NONE.

Beside that BS 9/11 no one on here know of anyone blown up on a commercial plane. NO NEED for scanners. There is NO terrorism besides the US gov. The create it and fight it as a way to impose restrictions on brainwashed idiots.


It funny how terrorists can apparently hijack a plane with say only 300 people on board and blow that up but can't pop off to a Garth Brooks concert or a Britney christina Justine orgy Concert and blow the crap out of them for a more dramatic effect (30000 people?). I know that the security at airports is run by mostly useless people but the security at a concert is just plain awful Plus you can scalp a ticket at a concert last second and get in with your Islamic buddies and blow stuff up easily. But NO these terrorist want to learn to fly planes and strap bombs to themselves before trying to go through full body scanners and pat downs and wands etc. Plus have no chance of scalping a plane ticket last second.

think. Everyone has the ability to take a few moments to think before they talk.

It also seems to me that the terrorist threat at the moment is Islamic by nature. But how come they get all the exceptions because of their religion?

these questions must be asked before we give up more of our already limited freedom. What is it America wants to really achieve? We know that the Jews and Muslims hate each other so a war on Islam would benefit the Jews. As they say United States Of Isreal. Maybe it is true.

So no brain scanners please, as the air industry will surely crumble and thousands will lose their jobs. Kids will go on Welfare or Dole and be bullied by those whose families work in the technology field.

There must be an end to this ridiculous. I fly twice a month and I never think im going to get blown up. However I do walk into any doctors waiting room and think I will die from these disgusting people with illnesses.

There is NO terrorism that is not set up by the US gov. they use it to impose restrictions on us.

Originally posted by OnceReturned

Originally posted by Unity_99 And abusive too as any program can be altered or hacked.

Right, so we might as well do away with everything ever because it can be misused.

The only ones I endorse using this technology on would be all the leaders and corporate heads for suspicions of crimes against humanity, by well informed groups of investigative civilians. We're not going to allow this or microchips.

[edit on 10-8-2010 by Unity_99]

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But one of your freedoms is not to be able to fly under whatever conditions you want. It costs money and there are rules. You can play along or choose not to do it. You are free. You talk about how few people actually die because of aircraft terrorism, but how many people actually get locked up because of false positives on a brain scan? How many people actually have had any negitive consequences from this thing which you believe to be so bad? How do you know it's that bad, until they actually start using it, or, god forbid, you give it a try? What exactly are you afraid of here?

reply to post by DrunkNinja


i doubt this is actually possible. people over react way too much on this site. get the tin foil hats! any way, if you have nothing to hide, whats the problem?

im sure it will help suss out terrorists, i for one am for it.!




[edit on 11-8-2010 by predisposed]

I think it's a rule of thumb the military is always about a decade ahead of what's made public.

How much do you want to be they had something like this for years.

There's no way the would make this known, if they did. The public would be outraged. They would just use it in secret.

reply to post by OnceReturned


To answer your question what are people afriad of:

Just because you want privacy doesn't mean you are doing something illegal.

When you start violating a person's right to privacy - you are dehumanizing the person.

It's the same reason why most people consider rape to be such a horrific crime.

reply to post by DrunkNinja


No doubt some young college student, or drop out, with a lot of time on his/her hands, talent, knowledge and a desire to make things right, will probably invent some other technology that will obstruct the new technology you posted about


If I had any idea of the things that are possible today, when I was happily drawing cartoons in my notebook in 6th grade science class, and just hoping I might learn enough via osmosis of the brain to get a respectable D-, I just might have paid more attention. But I didn't.

I have much faith, heh, in science. And I have faith, that whatever can be designed and built, can also be undermined.

Originally posted by OnceReturned
reply to post by sassyncute

 

But one of your freedoms is not to be able to fly under whatever conditions you want. It costs money and there are rules. You can play along or choose not to do it. You are free. You talk about how few people actually die because of aircraft terrorism, but how many people actually get locked up because of false positives on a brain scan? How many people actually have had any negitive consequences from this thing which you believe to be so bad? How do you know it's that bad, until they actually start using it, or, god forbid, you give it a try? What exactly are you afraid of here?

You must be one of those people who backs the oppression people face I think that this type of technology would do NOTHING at all. Only people who work for the establishment would say something like this. There is no justifiable reason someone would want this technology to be used on holiday makers. YOU must be one of the people on here who fights the people and fights against ATS members just to get a little rub going.

Pointless talking to like you because you have a lack of sight.

Originally posted by Daughter2
I think it's a rule of thumb the military is always about a decade ahead of what's made public.

How much do you want to be they had something like this for years.

There's no way the would make this known, if they did. The public would be outraged. They would just use it in secret.

Oh, yes! Having spent a lifetime, it seems, sometimes, in the US Army, the things that are developed and used for military purposes, are wayyyyyy, wayyyyyyyyyyy, beyond what is available for civliian use.

Before people used the word "fax", and before civilians even understood the concept, I used them. Not the word fax, lol, but fax machines. Before there were ipods and cell phones, and laptop computers and the internet, glory be!, I got to use them.

I'm pretty sure, whatever you could possibly imagine, the US military has already imagined and developed.

'the public would be outraged'

I read recently about a pill 'to cure' aggression and anger.

sounds crazy that people would even think about making such a thing?

anti depressants are an attempt at 'curing' unhappiness.