OMG it's back

Originally posted by Ghrwilson
Jezzz. Call an election. Have mom tell you everything is going to be Ok and stop watching scifi before bed. This is a conspiracy web site to post conspiracies and other world events not `I had a bad dream and got spooked page`. Im sure there's web sites where people gather round and talk about spooky dreams and when they went to get laundry out of the basement they got the creepy geebies on the way up stairs.

You read the whole thread?

You checked which forum it's posted in?

Do you want to grow up?

Thought not.

reply to post by Argyll


Ha ha it actually sounds like he's too grown up.

There is actualy alot of similar stories out there about these beings.

There is even a prominant website on the subject

Shadow People Archives

I personaly have seen only one type of this thing.
The hooded type.

It was only a couple feet from my bed, and was much like what Shamus describes in his post about the "Tar man".

A solid black 4 foot'ish tall hominid shape that looked like it was wearing a hooded robe..almost one dimensional seeming, yet with a thin outline of white light about the edge that gave it more dimension.

And when I say "solid" I mean solid. I could not see through this thing.
It was there

Some say they see red eyes.. I did not....just solid black

Personaly I think they come from different sources.
Some, (mine in particular) I think are advanced beings using some kind of electrromagnetic means of remote projection.
Some are possibly earthly humans who have got their hands on the same technology.
Others are actual ethereal entities who are benevolent, performing a karmic task of spooking us toward the light.

As a corporeal being you hold sovereignty over these beings.

Your sovereignty is backed up by the universal mind, which has a sort of "gag" order on too much of this kind of thing.

If it bothers you too much, tell it to leave.
You have to really beleive in your god given sovereignty for that to work tho... Ritual can help reinforce.. I hear some folks burn sage...

If it doesnt leave, then get witnesses...
The more it is made public. The greater it's risk of disturbing the imposed "silence" that we need to practice our earthly "free will".

Iv'e no evidence to back up what I am telling you, just my opinions here based upon my own personal experiences.

Best wishes, and good journey to you...always.

(edit: spelling x 2)







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reply to post by darkbake


No he's not, he just thinks he's made a clever post...............but he failed.

Tell it to leave. There is no reason whatsoever for you to feel like a prisoner in your own home in regard to something that was never invited to visit in the first place.
But on the other hand, if somehow you did invite a now unwanted guest, that's a whole 'nuther fish to fry.
Either way, you are ultimately in control of your own environment. Any feeling otherwise is oppression and deceit. Granted, exercising that control in some situations can be a bit more challenging than others, however it is still true all the same.

Originally posted by Khurzon
As a corporeal being you hold sovereignty over these beings.

Believe it.

Your sovereignty is backed up by the universal mind, which has a sort of "gag" order on too much of this kind of thing.

True 'dat.

If it bothers you too much, tell it to leave.

Sho 'nuff what I said

You have to really beleive in your god given sovereignty for that to work tho... Ritual can help reinforce.. I hear some folks burn sage...

That's the deal-breaker though. Unfortunately people have trouble even believing in themselves nowadays, much less any type of god- or God-given anything. If you want to be able to tell them/it to leave and expect them/it to actually do it, then you have to believe it's possible in the first place. If you don't, why should they/it? I've heard of sage burning, also lavender. In addition to salting the doorways. No idea why these random things are reported to work, but they for some reason they appear to. At least on the Discovery Channel....ha ha. Prayer, obviously, is the most effective, and it also covers the "ritual" aspect, but it's useless if it's just lip service.

If it doesnt leave, then get witnesses...
The more it is made public. The greater it's risk of disturbing the imposed "silence" that we need to practice our earthly "free will".

This is also true, but I never really understood the possibility of why until this statement. Very interesting indeed...the more you draw attention to a true preternatural manifestation, the less frequent and likely the manifestation. However, the attention has to be counter-productive behavior and not feeding behavior. Feeding behavior would be any attempt to contact or communicate or interact with it. Big no-no. Remember, you were minding your own business and didn't ask to be bothered in the first place.

Iv'e no evidence to back up what I am telling you, just my opinions here based upon my own personal experiences.

Best wishes, and good journey to you...always.

Ditto.

reply to post by Alienslayer


Do you have any unconfessed sin? Sin that you have not asked God forgiveness for will result in jins hunting you and chastising you.

Also don't ever answer an entity that calls your name. Especially if your name is called three times in a row during an encounter.
I heard once from a wise dude that this usually means it's the Angel of Death coming for you. And if you reply to 3 beckons you will die soon.

God Bless.

reply to post by muzzleflash


Don't think he Is saying the op has brain damage but experiments with small magnets placed around the brain have resulted in similiar results. Look up the god helmet on YouTube.

Basically the experiments showed that with the right frequency of electromagnetic stimulation you would experience a sensation such as what the op describes.

reply to post by Alienslayer


Alas all other schizophrenic "aliens taking over the world" conspiracies put aside. If this is indeed certifiable, then you may have malicious entitie(s) in your home. First and foremost, this is most likely a demonic entity, often variable descriptions may include; shadow-walker,demon,daedras and so on, (all of which can be easily handled with the right knowledge), I would highly recommend for your safety (and others) that any satanic, wiccan,ouija, dousing, practices be ceased immediately (if present), second remain calm (these will feed off of fear and anger), third i would recommend otaining a copy of "the goetia" aka "lesser key of solomon" and become familiar with the 'rituale romanum excorsism rite' it should begin as "Exorcizamus te, omnis immundus spiritus, omnis satanica potestas" etc. You may have to perform an excorsism on your house ( i know it sounds funny) to rid the entity, your dreams is its way of messing with your head to invoke fear and anger (as with other happenings). if continues then your next step would be to obtain some holy water from an ordained minister (if you tell him, he may find you crazy), some iodized salt in doorways as a barrier and other protective items. but before anything is done you need to do some research to know what you are up against, (these things can kill), if those dont work then you may have a shadow demon or daedra, in this case some lore states that a bright resembling holy light (ex: flare) may temporarely or pemanently rid the demon. If all else is failed then you need to cantact a credited professional excorsist, (it may want to possess you so keep your guard up) to aid you, i hear rumors of a good one in pennsylvania. thats about it so I hope this helps, be safe and good luck

That picture gives me chills. Spread salt around your house, they don't like salt. Get some cedar, and spread that around your house. Then burn some dry cedar, get it smoking and go around into every room spreading the smoke around, that will purify your house, tell them to get out and stay out. I had to smoke myself down after looking at that picture.

that is a crazy picture man...wow i would prob have to clean out my underwear after seeing something like that...it just makes you wonder every time you get that creepy feeling like something is watching you through a window or out walking around at night and feel like your being followed if there really is something there and why are they interrested in you....great thread...

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You have the pictures?
You can upload the pictures to media.abovetopsecret and then post the links here, I've never tried to embed a picture but I'm sure it's not too hard if you just mess around a little. I would love to see them.

If these pictures are good you might be able prove this thread is a hoax.

Originally posted by Ghrwilson
Jezzz. Call an election. Have mom tell you everything is going to be Ok and stop watching scifi before bed. This is a conspiracy web site to post conspiracies and other world events not `I had a bad dream and got spooked page`. Im sure there's web sites where people gather round and talk about spooky dreams and when they went to get laundry out of the basement they got the creepy geebies on the way up stairs.

You really are a pr!ck... you know whether or not the OP's experiences are real, it doesn't make it any less real for them. When you truly believe an experience is happening it may as well actually be happening to you.

You can make fun of people who have paranormal experiences all you want, but one day you shall learn that it's not so fun to have an entity feeding off your negative energy - and in this world/realm there is so much negativity going on it's hard to be positive all the time. I know I find it hard to lay down and think positively before sleeping especially, so that's why I think more experiences happen at night... you're thinking [consciously or subconsciously] about that day/week/year or past/future and it gets to you, and regardless of paranormal activity being involved or not, you are energy as well as everything around you. You manipulate particles surrounding you and you don't even realize it.

I have been reading this thread
I have had some experiences with these things

but honestly I didn't see a thing in the photo ,what's wrong with me?

can someone draw a circle around it in Paint for me ?

pleez?

I don't know why but when I look at that picture all that comes to mind is the shadow ghosts from the His Dark Materials trilogy. Perhaps it is something from another dimension, phasing in and out. In book 2 of HDM, 'The Subtle Knife' it says that adults cannot see the ghosts, however children and animals can. The shadow ghosts supposedly latch onto adults and feed off their energy. Creepy stuff man. In your opening post you said that it got worse off the angrier you got at your situation.. perhaps something is feeding off your anger? Otherwise it could just be a funny ghost or it could be a mean one, who knows. Maybe you live in a highly (electro?)magnetic area, could that mess with his lights and stuff?

I think it is both funny and sad the way science has been intentionally set up to keep us closed off from certain things. The paranormal in general is written off constantly, not because it can be disproven, but because it isn't easily understood. The framework of society teaches us that the unknown should remain so - that letter-of-the-law, mainstream science has an answer for everything...even if that answer makes less sense than the paranormal theories offered.

With that said, the OP's experience isn't solitary, nor is it rare. Many similar instances have been documented. I have read articles regarding the ability to manufacture similar things by stimulating parts of the brain (usually magnetically). I don't think such things apply here, supposing this is real. While I won't give undue creedence or blindly buy into what was said, I have heard too many identical cases from seemingly credible people to simply shake it off.

It's alarming how some folks react to the unknown. A few of the posts in response to the OP were rude and juvenile...likely a defense mechanism for things that can't be easily explained. Skepticism is a good thing, but trashing a post for no other reason than you don't understand something is pretty misguided and petty. I tend to feel sorry for such folks.

With that said, I've heard entirely too many similar accounts to discredit the OP right off the bat. They haven't done anything for me to discount their credibility. I come to a very simple and logical conclusion based on the original post and countless accounts I've researched myself: Either the post is genuine and deserves the response a good bit of the kind ATS readers have given... or the OP has no life and too much time on their hands, leading them to recount a not uncommon phenomena. In either case, such things definitely seem to go on, whether modern science can explain them or not.

Lastly, I couldn't agree more with the people who made it a point to mention that such things likely feed on fear and anxiety and stress. As hard as it is, changing your feelings of the situation may help a great bit. Of course, there are also cases where it has hurt a great bit, but they are few and far between. If this is a true account, I urge you to look further into what many of the posters have mentioned. There's a wealth of knowledge out there regarding how to deal with such things, whether they're easily understood or not.

Good luck! Haters: hate on.

-kg

Hi all interesting replies from all of you, i'm glad some of you understand. And yes there are a few hate replies. I simply do not expect everyone to believe in the image.

i mean of course we have to debunk it that's what this site does. However i'll explain the curcumstances under how i do my photography

Right a long exposure will capture trails, the reason i do a long exposure is because if an entity is following you or crosses the oath you'll get a ghostly trail.

Now if i set this up on a tripod you would see my trail walking to that spot. So there is something for the haters to work on.

To the believers who have had past eperience was yours anything like mine? did the being in that photo look anything similar to what you have seen?

And i'm not sure about the eyes been a part of the tree in the background but what about the rest of the body? it's a bit too well placed really.

If you haters think you can replicate the image here are the settings i used

Shutter 5 second
F/stop 4.5
Lighting conditions low-medium


Anyway with that said back to the rest of my story, i'm awake now rather late good thing i go back to working night shift soon, i work at the hospital and often on night shift but i also do ghost tours sometimes locally. I'm worried mabe it followed me back. i'll sprinkle salt out tonight on the floor and see what i can get although not getting my hopes up..

i belive while entities can touch and move objects i doubt they would intentionally reveal themselves to us.

Hopefully tonight is all quiet i'll try burning incence and playing some nice acoustic music and let you know how i go.

And guys remember this is the paranormal forum i thought this was the appropriate place to post this thread about my experiences

well tell it that if it wants to stay it needs to pay the rent. It just can't live for free you know.

The first poster to mention the eyes being part of the tree is certainly correct. I looked at the photo immediately after reading that the entity had red eyes, and instantly could tell it was the tree. The rest of the photo is considerably more curious. I, too, would love to see this duplicated. Cheers.

HaHa yeh but seriously all jokes aside about that photo, I think i should mention before i head out for the day it's simply unfair to replicate an image and claim mine is a fake.

With nowdays technology and computer software you can virtually re create any image or video you want.

But try looking back at the date the photo was taken at... going back a few years ago. And try with the technology back then.

Anyway with that said tonight i'll set up my movie recorder (does not go for long though off my digital camera) And hopefully also pick up audio

i'll try some long exposure shots and see what i get. i'll do it with lights off and lights on try the whole lot. Wish me luck but don't hold ya hopes high like i said i've been trying for years most ghost hunters don't even get that much luck