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Hidden Hand Message - Law Of One - Discussion!

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posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 08:24 PM
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Actually the Natives were far far far advanced spiritually then we are right now so they should have passed through some of the stages of human emotions.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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I know what you mean Annee some of mine predictions come true a month or a year time scale later. It is dispersed by the time line most likely the shifting time frames change constantly thus the events are placed into different time scales to the original viewing. Hope that helped explaining things a bit


Peace and Light



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 08:29 PM
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The things that are taking place in Africa are truly sickening and devistating so I do presume there are things in place to turn this hell into heaven for the people there. THINGS ARE NEED TO BE DONE!!!



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 08:40 PM
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I was told by one of my contacts, a very advanced beautiful man, whom I call a ranger, a hero energy, who guarded the female technician and told me when I would be in meetings them, and showed me the station overlooking the sun, to be good to the children for he was a father and they counted the most. I was told he would show me the under ocean bases but have no idea if it occurred, for things that happened were taken from me. For example one meeting with my friend who is one of these people in source, I was told I was progressing nicely and remember scenes, but we were told that it was not time to remember these things.

My son, also recalls these very same contacts and was also shown much about future events but it was taken from him as well.

I was also told what real disclosure would look like, to remain cautious and hold back if anything occurs. Real disclosure is redistribution of all things,and the full truth. It equalizes and heals this world and upgrades humanity to become cosmic citizens.

He also said, Africa was the symbol for this planet in the cosmos.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Archangel In Training
reply to post by 11118
 


Actually the Natives were far far far advanced spiritually then we are right now so they should have passed through some of the stages of human emotions.


This is a misconception as they were learning the same lessons that we are learning now. There was just as much room for negativity as there is at the present.

The advancement in "spirituality" is on a personal level, thus every person is uniquely different in their understandings and awareness.



They may have been closer to themselves but still experienced suffering in different and or the same ways. There was still pain, sadness, etc.... on some level

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posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99


My son, also recalls these very same contacts and was also shown much about future events but it was taken from him as well.



Will the events truly happen in this dimension? So far, I don't see any events happening based on what others have said (but I do believe ET_MAN's statement that something is going to happen in 2011).
Also, what do you think of most of "predictions" on ATS not happening?

Thanks.



posted on Aug, 17 2010 @ 10:13 PM
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Don't know, future timeline events, given to my son, me, and my friend, and whoever else is among their contactees, but then removed until the needed time, and not all on the same days.

I read an account by observe50 that is similar, she talked of a craft that I was on frequently in my childhood growing up with the outer circular corrider, and also, of greys and dark haired humans, and an under ocean base as well as their other ones. Really stirred my memories. Though there were blond haired with them as well.

The night this happened for me, he contacted me in a postcard, akin to a dvd actually so I could see and hear him, and said I would be in a meeting with them that night, and I just shrugged it off as an overtired mind, and refused to give it any thought. This is my usual response.

Then, as I went to sleep, hands put something on my head, just in front of my ears on teh very slight tender bludges there, and it all vibrated. And when I woke up, my friend was writing me early (only did that when something was up) and when he said I was there with him, I recalled the room, first of all a medical room with a changing room off to the side, and the very tall female technician, blond. And my friend was in a typical black uniform.
Then we were in this meeting room, seated across from them, desk or table, I almost see a curved table. I think its curved. There is a screen behind him as well.

There are many many plants in this base, in every room, filled, except the medical.

Aparently it happens to a lot of us that we're shown things, future and past events and then its all taken from us.




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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 09:47 AM
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We are self see a deciever within ET_Man we feel connection to the Zetas here and in the words a agenda to bind the souls to the physical for another cycle.

We must give you a warning do not trust any ET beings which are making such claims as ET_man has made, they will twist truths so as to lure you in but their agenda is against you not with you.

Many of mankind are being decieved by a agenda in which STS are appearing as the light so that people will feel inclined to follow what they say, we can tell you now that this information this person has been giving to you is of no benefit at all to you in way it has been presented their is very little truth within it and the main goal is to disinform you.

We would advise you all read the alliesofhumanity material it is given to help you discern because much decievers are going to come they will appear in a cloak of light but know this they are darkness be very careful in choices you make for they seek to do you harm.

We can tell you now that the seperating of the Wheat and the Chaff is underway and that the philosphys given by 'Ra' in that Material and the material of 'Bringers of the Dawn' and the Cassiopaean Material as well as alliesofhumanity material is giving from a pure intention of the true light those 4 sources of information will help prepare you for what is to come and help you to free yourself from this prison.

ET_Man by trying to discredit such material including the truths behind hidden hand in which is indeed truthful but also twistful due to nature of the information being STS, but it is indeed of use due to it reveals deep knowledge specifically the understanding the Creators pulse, has revealed his true intention.

Those who have been decieved by beings such as ST in BG and ET_Man learn from this for you are seeing what mind control can truely do, learn to observe the way in which the responses occur and feel the source of the information behind them, it takes time to develop true itution but it is worth the challege.

We give you one piece of important advice 'Discern Everything including Us' make it part of your method of learning and you will find the gems between the rocks.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

[edit on 18-8-2010 by AdonaiChristBless]

[edit on 18-8-2010 by AdonaiChristBless]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 10:03 AM
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'Bringers of the Dawn'??? I have read her material, its channled. Surprisingly, some of the information she talks about is cosmic, for example, earth is a living library.
Then she goes into starfire stuff, drinking menstrual blood and pure bloodline ritualistic, Arizona Wilder nonsense. That isn't cosmic and it certainly is DARK SIDE.

The wheat from the chaff is also El/Ra/Zeus/Quetzcoatlz, the eye of Horus itself, pyramid system.

ET_MAN is of the highest love, speaking from his nde and experiences not only with benevolents, but the ones way over this school's head.

I have a direct line home myself, and I suggest you all work hard at establishing yours as well. The way is within, be inward seekers, not outward seekers, meditate and sun-gaze without credo. Ask, who you are? what you're here for? how can you help? how can you grow in love? what time is? what "no time" is? what the cosmos is? what the sun is?

The answers are some kind of wonderful, and freedom, love and equality, and progression is the most wonderful goal and plan there is. And it is from the ones really in control of their technology, this cosmos: our Future Selves/Higher Selves, the Infinite Family of Light, true LOVE, for Love everything and what this whole testing grounds is about, the Creators/Designers/Programmers/Teachers. We are, we all are, equally. In true equality.

Invert the pyramid! You call the wrong people STS, ET_MAN and those speaking for LOVE and EQUALITY and repairing relationships and passing your tests, are STO.


Also, work on your energy, raising it, you need to feel light as a feather, repair all your relationships, and love everyone and yearn deeply for a free, equal world of abundance for all, without forcing anyone or control. Because your energy is in your post. You need to overcome your credo's and lighten it with love. Also, the Family of Light, and Higher Self, protects us and those overcoming fear and anger, and striving to become Love.


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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 11:42 AM
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You are well programmed indeed we can only help you by telling you to read all of what you have posted and observe the modervations which caused it in those moments.

You have a small amount of time to figure this out but it is your choice if you dont investigate it further it may hold concequences for you in future due to your state of ignorance in this present moment.

We can tell you without doubt your perception on Et_Man and information he is presenting is not of love at all not in the context of your understanding of love.

On personal note you have had many abductions unity and many programs installed throughout your life, that connection home is one such program it is not a true conduit to higher density realms but a means to keep you here, we would suggest emptying your cup and refilling it from cleaner sources of water.

We feel your intentions are good but you like many are distorted have been decieved and network information which only further distorts others, this is why if you truely seek to be a service to others we would suggest you empty the cup so it may be refilled, the creator can show you the truth if you allow it too but while you have your own 'truth' you can not be shown.

With such will come the ability to see true light from false light to see beyond what is word in time you will see the energy of the cosmos as it pours onto the earth and from this you can work with it, until then you are still stuck in darkness and this being you have put your faith into that you say is highest love is keeping you there.

We would advise you discern everything and allow the creator to show you the truth, this process will develop your mind and increase your IQ will improve your itution and give you gifts you thought not possible but this choice must be yours no one can make you and it will not be easy at first, when a soul truely begins to awaken those asleep will try keep them asleep those who keep the sleeper in control will attack in all ways possible it will be a inner battle but if you overcome it 'welcome to the kingdom of heaven'.



Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

[edit on 18-8-2010 by AdonaiChristBless]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:07 PM
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I am the opposite of programmed. Your response is showing programming if you want to use that word, because you have bought into a whole lot of things.

Approach the way without credo, don't let anything get in your way, save for LOVE. And seek.

What you call programming is my natural energy recognition, that has been increasing over the last year of meditation and sungazing, though I always had it, and had it to a very large extent, recognizing other people, seeing Family amongst posters, reading energy in posts.

Energy such as family, for we are all family, is stronger when the person is writing from their heart and from their soul knowledge, and if they are truly positive.

And there is something they have contributed to my search, one was meditation, and increasing it, the other was to take certain things, questions into meditation.

I am an inner seeker, and not programmed into anything. Please learn to examine without credo, looking for truth.

It can't be found in anything you're reading, its something you will find as you raise your frequency and love and concern for equality, and in nature, and specifically from directly connecting to your Higher Self who should well up within you as you.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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We have told you what happened it is now your choice to ignore and continue to be conditioned and find out later the concequences warned off in this present moment or to investigate further and perhaps free yourself of this conditioning you are under.

Programmed people dont know they are programmed, denial is part of the programming, understand we see more than peoples words we dont base things on how nice one words things.

You have been explained how to reconise this programming it will take alot of self work if you choose to continue as you are now you will not have what you expect your going to have in your future that we know for certain.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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The way is always within, and answers come from bubbing up like a well, in contact with HS/self, and also you'll wake up with them.

We already know what right and wrong is within us, and know instrinsically that control and slavery is wrong and inequality.

Stripping off the layers of what has been taught, and conneting to yourself, and inner searches will bring you the guidance and direction you need, so that you progress.

There is not pyramid system, or Egyptian "gods" that can guide you there. Higher Level Beings who have truly graduated from lower level lessons and are Love, do not come down to enslave or hurt you for your own good, and this something you also already know in your heart, if you are observant.

Love puts in love, it encourages, helps, nudges, and helps all who ask.

Don't worry about the temporal, or chase fame, fortune, the world, but seek answers, and balance within, and yearn for, wish for, and envision eden.

Its not hard to understand it, and your HS is there every step of the way.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:57 PM
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why this makes no sense:


the OP states that we all choose our lives before being born and we are effectively playing a role which was pre-determined. then he says that it is the luciferians objective to offer us with a choice of evil, which we are to refute.

what purpose would that serve if we already have our place in life mapped out before we are born? if i chose a life which resulted from my bad decisions, was it because I chose to live this life or because i gave into temptation to evil things?

serious logic flaw there.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by tonypazzo
why this makes no sense:


the OP states that we all choose our lives before being born and we are effectively playing a role which was pre-determined. then he says that it is the luciferians objective to offer us with a choice of evil, which we are to refute.

what purpose would that serve if we already have our place in life mapped out before we are born? if i chose a life which resulted from my bad decisions, was it because I chose to live this life or because i gave into temptation to evil things?

serious logic flaw there.


The flaw lies in the original posters description, as well as, your attempt to sort these flaws out in a logical matter.

Yes you choose the life lessons that you wish to learn and the catalysts that bring about these lessons; however this isn't so much an 'etched in stone' destiny, as it's extremely flexible and the lessons learned can be learned in an infinitesimal amount of aspects.

Lucifer does not bring about the evil. Lucifer brings the props onto the stage, the tools. It is up to you how you use these tools as they can be used both ways depending on your perception and goal in the use of these tools. How could you even know right and wrong when there is not the wrong? If there was not the wrongness in reality there could not be the right way of doing things because the right way would not be existent in personal perception.

Either way the only concern should be on a personal level - to contemplate about the external world is veering off the path of contemplation of the self.


If all you knew was light you would not even know that is light, but throw a shadow in there and you can see by comparison the understanding of light and darkness both - both of these aspects a duality of a single entity that neither turns it's back to the light nor darkness for they are both of the same reality. Really there is not evil nor good there simply is, how you perceive these things is how they will appear they are only neutral until you label them as you wish.


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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 08:10 PM
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Thank you AdonaiChristBless, please post more.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 09:52 PM
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I have gone to the website only to find some very misleading information.

It is my opinion that this website has very distorted information.




The need for resources is experienced everywhere, and many technological societies have outstripped their world’s natural resources and must trade, barter and travel to gain what they need. It is a very complicated situation. Many alliances are formed and conflicts do occur.



The need for resources?




Perhaps at this point it is necessary to realize that the Greater Community into which you are emerging is a difficult environment and a challenging one, and yet it brings great opportunity and great possibilities for humanity



These are small gems drowning in a sea of negativity.

"Difficult environment"

"Challenging one"





However, for these possibilities and these advantages to be realized, humanity must prepare and come to learn what life in the universe is like. And it must come to understand what spirituality means within a Greater Community of intelligent life.




Humanity must prepare.

A Greater Community, with it's own version of rules about the Universe, kind of like a service to self organization of enslavement under a set of rules created by those who wish to be the elite. Basically saying Humanity must understand what spirituality means within THIS community.




We understand from our own history that this is the greatest threshold that any world will ever face. It is not something, however, that you can plan for yourself. It is not something that you can design for your own future. For the very forces that would bring the Greater Community reality here are already present in the world. Circumstances have brought them here. They are here.



So I guess the first and foremost distortion of Creation/the Creator is obsolete at the moment considering the future cannot be changed by Humanity. (Free Will)




Perhaps this gives you an idea of what life is like beyond your borders. We do not want to create an idea that is fearful, but it is necessary for your own well-being and for your future that you have an honest appraisal and can come to see these things clearly.



Looks like their idea, not yours - even though each entities idea is unique in it's perspective and can be different at the same time correct.

'We do not want to be fearful" and then "but it is necessary for your own well-being and your future".


All taken from this website: www.alliesofhumanity.org...

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Before I even started to scroll down on my mouse pad I had a prickling sharp pain in my index finger.

Why? I don't know.

But it would seem this is your average negative entity dressed in light.

AdonaiChristBless even says:

"We would advise you all read the alliesofhumanity material it is given to help you discern because much decievers are going to come they will appear in a cloak of light but know this they are darkness be very careful in choices you make for they seek to do you harm."

I do not wish to infringe on anyone else's freedom of discernment you can take what I say with a grain of salt but I will not be reading any further as my discernment sees dampened truths.


Edit to add after reading more of a post:

Mixing together the four sources with the Ra material is very misleading, as Ra never in any context says the "need" to do anything or that the material is a "must" read.

Namaste.




[edit on 18-8-2010 by 11118]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 10:53 PM
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Those sources are interconnected each showing a different side to the story, but each side is relevant to the next you by choosing to ignore such information have put yourself in same boat as 'Love and lighters' the word namaste is not even what people think it means the source of such should be questioned understand that is very unlikely that a being of true light is going to speak fluff to you it will tell you what is required to be known for your best interest, those speaking in fluff are decievers trying to decieve you through emotion.

Think careful brother as you do have some awareness but have also picked up some distortions from things you have read along the way, ask yourself why we would say that alliesofhumanity material is of benefit to understand. Let us give you a deeper look into this the material states that many STS races are decieving mankind right now to take resources in many forms and many agendas, it states mankind must be careful who they trust in these times that not all who sound friendly are.

Now let us look at the crop circle warning about this 'Beware those bearing Gifts' was the translation they gathered from it now let us look at the bible also 'Many will come in my name' it also states that their would be a grand deception in which only a few would see through it, it even speaks of the time we are in now the seperating the wheat from the chaff, many warnings are placed in many places for a purpose brother.

This whole oh it sounds fearful it must be darkness is a deception by darkness to blind you from truth, it is very important mankind begins to use the tools given to them to discern the truth and not believe straight away any source including us.

There is always distortion in things brother but those four sources are the most pure that has been for a long time infact one by understanding what the messages mean at the deepest levels will certainly graduate this density.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 11:17 PM
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I accept your teachings as your own and I am no way saying that you should not keep teaching what you believe is correct; however I do not wish to read on with these words that pave way to 'doom' ahead and 'challenges' ahead.

This is the exact opposite of a being of the positive polarity to be speaking.


Love brings together, fear separates.


ALL beings are beings of Love manifesting themselves as Light, either negative or positive either are of the same essence.

I'm not fearful of my 'resources' being taken from me; because in truth I have nothing to fear.

You said:

"This whole oh it sounds fearful it must be darkness is a deception by darkness to blind you from truth"

That is illogical because the whole point of the service to self is to induce fear so that enslavement may come after. For example - "Thou shalt not steal" and if one does steal then they are judged by god; quite the opposite because you can steal if you want and the only judgement comes from yourself.

Seems like a reverse deception to me, as if the light is supposed to cater to fear - like there is something to fear when going towards the light.

Namaste. And whether I know what Namaste means or not if you understand it in your own context then you can accept the salutation if you wish.








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posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by AdonaiChristBless
. . . understand that is very unlikely that a being of true light is going to speak fluff to you it will tell you what is required to be known for your best interest, . . .



Thank you - thank you - thank you.

Words on paper are like a foreign language. All must be taken in - then filtered through the energy consciousness.

There is simplicity in Being.



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