Woah! Did I just see the entire sea floor lift up?!

reply to post by Realtruth


Well, its evident that you EDITED your original post where you were laughing at others for believing that it was the ocean floor the rose as opposed to ROV. And your statement was quite definitive. Now you're claiming that you cannot prove it and neither can I.

Either way, it appears that you've apparently learned a lesson. Therefore, I am backing off now.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Listen, I'm not one to call people names.....BUT

If you honestly can not tell that it is the ROVER and its CAMERA shifting, NOT THE SEAFLOOR, well then you need to have your head examined.

Honestly, enough with the "you can't prove it" mentality on this thread, as it is a mutually nullifying statement.

Would a bubble/seafloor movement of that scale not register on a single seismograph? Would it not create noticeable on-shore turbulence (I.E. surge wave(s), etc).

IT IS THE ROVER MOVING.

Wonder why there is so much sand/particle kick-up IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THE ROVER AND NO WHERE ELSE IN THE VIDEO? It is because the rover is moving. just thought I would state it again for you thick-skulled morons who will believe or try to back up a notion found only on a youtube video (because the scientific community is capable of critical thinking and analysis).

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To me the sea floor moved.

This is crazy, how far will the methane move up land?

History channel said. The methane lake killed 16 miles away.

This is alot bigger in scale. Are wer talking 100 miles? or 1000 miles?

I'm in the floor rising camp on this.

The mud cloud/debris starts from way out in front of the ROV, not around it.

The joints/motors on the ROV didn't move, and the arm stayed on the sea bed.

The ROV only moved, and was covered in mud clouds after the rising and falling.

It's either a methane bubble building and releasing pressure, or they've detonated a small nuke way down into the sea bed.

And while i'm at it, can we have less of the name calling and piss taking if some of you don't mind?

If you don't hold the same opinion fine, no problem..but don't try and intimidate others for holding a different view..ok?
That's the kind of psychological browbeating rubbish i'd expect from tptb, not members of a forum such as ATS.

could have been a methane gas bubble... if it's near the well.. maybe where it's been plugged up, and that kind of pressure has to be released somehow. maybe an oil pocket where a relief well leaked... who knows at this point.

I'm not awed or wowed by this video, but if it's real, obviously some kind of activity is going on under the seabed.

I did see it rise up, and then fall.... I wonder what that alarm he was talking about was. I guess i'll now go and find out who this cat is that posted it, and see where he got the video to begin with...



fun, fun , fun!

/sarcasim

*Edit* Just watched it a couple more times, with the camera motion concept in mind... and yeah... i can see where it could BE camera movement. I see more of the sand stirred up behind the arm, than on the bed where it's supposed to be lifting up.

I'll stick with camera movement. My final answer.

[edit on 3-8-2010 by Godz Enigma]

quite clearly it is the rover moving down&up. Maybe it goes down to take a sample, and comes back up?

reply to post by cosmo740


Do you even realize the amount of pressure and how big a methane buble would have to be to move billions of tons of rocks? Its not even possible to build up the pressure needed to lift the entire basin. But if it were possible the realease that would have occured of trapped methane would have blown the rov to pieces.

This is simply a drill taking sediment samples to determine the amount of hydrates in the soil.It hits a rock causes drill to torque causing the rov to tilt.You see the right side of the rov lifts first. The rov driver uses thruster to correct for torque and guess what sediment. Really people its not a mystery.

While I see how it could be misinterpreted. . .I believe since the cam is attached to the rover, the rover appears completely stationary and the horizon appears to move. Despite this logic, it's still pretty neat footage. Hollywood still loves this classic illusion.

reply to post by spikey


Yup, floor rising camp here too. Watched the vid a few times and around the 1:29ish mark you can see something start to happen further out from the ROV. Seems to be something going on down there.

Could go either way on this one. Though there is a LOT of dirt floating around afterward. Good find!

You can easily see the camera moving from left to right after the floor "sinks". The sea floor isn't moving, the camera is.
It would be very interesting if it was legitimate, but unfortunately as far as my eyes can see, it's not.

I thought it was the floor at first but camera also moves from side to side after the appearance of the floor dropping.
=camera moves

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This thread is ATS in a nutshell.

reply to post by Shark VA84


It may be a youtube video but it is from the rov cams in the gulf. To me it is worth discussion.

reply to post by Chance321


That is the first thing I noticed after the rov touched the seafloor, something further out (a small plume) before everything else took place.

reply to post by boomadatigger


Woah! Did I just see the entire sea floor lift up?!

NO!

What is wrong with you people?! Can't you tell this is just a big ol' advertisment for whoever made this video?

Oh yeah, watch the sea floor while they spam a big advertisment over it!

The ROV and camera moved, not the sea floor! Get real you damn fear mongers!

The dirt from the sea floor moves because those rovers have stablizer fans and they stir up the loose debris when they are turned on when the ROV shifts.

Gosh people... this is a prime example of people wanting to see something so bad that they see something that isn't there! This is ridiculous!

Nah...no big deal. It was probably just a flounder or something.

reply to post by Unst0ppable0ne


Gosh people... this is a prime example of people wanting to see something so bad that they see something that isn't there! This is ridiculous!
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You are so right! And this trait is so ATS!
WHY are you people so rabid about disaster? It's like you can't wait for death and destruction! Are you all 14 years old?
The CAMERA MOVED and you silly people just unthinkingly knee jerk cry the sky is falling. God, if I were that cowardly I think I'd just hide in me house all day, posting ridiculous panic on the web!

reply to post by dragonridr

But if it were possible the realease that would have occured of trapped methane would have blown the rov to pieces.

We're all making assumptions at this point.

But your making an assumption that the ROV was smack bang in the middle of the rising bed area...it is quite possible the area of bed that rose in the video clip, is only at the periphery of phenomena. This wouldn't blow the ROV to pieces.

If you look carefully at the video background, and take your attention off the ROV, you will see what looks like debris and clouds tumbling towards the ROV from the rear left of the shot.

This implies whatever it was, occurred some distance away and in front of the ROV, and the detritus resulting from the heaving is spewing and tumbling towards it from the epicenter somewhere to the rear left area of the image frame.
This wasn't the ROV moving, this was the seabed.