Fury as Israel president claims English are 'anti-semitic'

Fury as Israel president claims English are 'anti-semitic'

www.telegraph.c o.uk

Israel's president has accused the English of being anti-semitic and claimed that MPs pander to Muslim voters.

Shimon Peres said England was "deeply pro-Arab ... and anti-Israeli", adding: "They always worked against us."

He added: "There is in England a saying that an anti-Semite is someone who hates the Jews more than is necessary."

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Define ' Anti-Semitic '.

If one defines an Anti-Semite as someone who does not always agree or support the state of Israel then I guess there are a few billion of these around the globe.

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


11 Jan 2009
various news agencies accused Israel of using illegal white phosphorus shells in Gaza. The Israeli military, which refuses to comment on the types of munitions it is using in the conflict, rejected the accusations.


"There is no use of white phosphorus," a spokeswoman said. "Everything we use is according to international law."


The Times reports tell-tale smoke above Gaza. An Israeli military official says:

We categorically deny the use of white phosphorus.


January 15, 2009
UN headquarters in Gaza hit by Israeli 'white phosphorus' shells.

www.timesonline.co.uk...

Ban Ki Moon, the UN Secretary-General said that Ehud Barak, the Israeli Defence Minister, had told him that it was "a grave mistake".

The attack was on UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) headquarters.

This comes after the red cross accusations of war crimes against Israel. They said that they were prevented from assisting children who were sheltering next to their dead parent bodies and collecting bodies of children as young as 5 and running them over in the streets with tanks.


24 Jan 2009
Israel admits using white phosphorous in attacks on Gaza

The Times on January 5, when it was strenuously denied by the army. Now, in the face of mounting evidence and international outcry, Israel has been forced to backtrack on that initial denial.


"Yes, phosphorus was used... but not in any illegal manner" : Yigal Palmor, Foreign Ministry Spokesman.


Monday, 1 February 2010
Israel has revealed it has disciplined two senior army officers for using white phosphorus shells during an offensive in Gaza.

'Repeated use'

TV pictures showed chunks of brightly burning phosphorus, streaming white smoke, landing in the courtyard of a UN compound in Beit Lahiya.


So... it went from:

We categorically deny the use of white phosphorus.

to

"Yes, phosphorus was used... but not in any illegal manner" : Yigal Palmor, Foreign Ministry Spokesman.

to

Israel has disciplined two senior army officers for the repeated use of white phosphorus.


In the name of humanity
[Sarcasm]Anti-Semitic and biased new report from the UK [/Sarcasm]


Who broke the ceasefire sir?



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[edit on 1-8-2010 by Pentothal]

"It's a trick. We always use it." - Shulamit Aloni, former Israeli Minister, on the use of the term "Anti-semetic".





A Semitic person is someone who is either Arab or Jewish. So if anyone is a raving bigoted Anti-Semite, it's Pires.

Who detests Arabs and and any Jewish person who opposes Israel's actions.


Many British people died so that The Third Reich was defeated. My relatives included.

The Third Reich, you know the ones who persecuted the Jewish people, Mr Pires?

Zionists have no shame.

Anybody who is Jewish who criticises Israel is called a "self-hating Jew".

Anyone who criticises Israel is called "anti-semitic" when it's the Israelis killing and maiming Palestinians, who are Semites.

Israel are desperate, and the fact the British population are waking up to the truth about Israel has led to Pires lashing out with the same old slurs.

British passports were forged so that Israel could murder someone. The UK protests, Israel lashes out and makes slurs. A flotilla is massacred. The UK protests, Israel lashes out and makes slurs.

The ugly intolerant, and xenophobic truth of Israel's rulers is revealed.

[edit on 1-8-2010 by Regensturm]

I would add to the "righteous fury" and post a link to the interview itself. I personally failed to note Peres claiming that English are antisemitic, he said this:

Maybe it is anti-Semitism? Yes, there is also anti-Semitism. There is in England a saying that an anti-Semite is someone who hates the Jews more than is necessary. But with Germany relations are pretty good, as with Italy and France.

If i will say that there is anti-semitism on ATS (which exists and i am sure some posters will gladly prove it) it does not mean that all/majority/half/third/tenth of ATS posters or ATS in general is anti-semitic. There are very few. But very vocal.
So if you interested to read it all (it is pretty long)
www.tabletmag.com...

Firstly, there is nothing "Semitic" about a great many of those bleating the loudest about anti-semitism. Ironically, it is the very people they are oppressing and removing from their land that are the true Semitic people. So, being Jewish does NOT make you of Semitic stock.
In fact, it was these non-Semitic European Khazar convert descendants that oppressed even the native Sephardic Jews who were already in Palestine. The programme of deliberately irradiating nearly 100,000 children - Sephardi only - was a gross crime and designed to remove or retard growth of the native Jewish people, allowing the immigrant Europeans to become the top dogs. So, even being Jewish is not good enough for these sicko's, you have to be a good white Jew!

As for this Bozo's comment. Israeli terrorists blew up the King David hotel, killing and maiming a great many British military personnel. This is still celebrated in Israel by the likes of Shimon Peres. Such memories are hard for some to forgive or forget. So too are the atrocities carried out in the course of building their nasty little empire.

The politicians pander to Israel - all 3 main parties have their Conservative / Labour / Liberal Democrat Friends of Israel websites, where they sickeningly pledge their support. As with the US, openly showing support for Israel, whether it's in OUR national interest or not, or whether Israel is right or wrong, is a prerequisite for holding high public office.

Israel gets to ignore international laws and UN resolutions with no consequence. The same laws that the rest of the planet has to abide by. Maybe it's about time that they were shunned by the international community and had their UN membership revoked, until such time as they start to abide by all those outstanding resolutions and laws.

reply to post by Pentothal


Ha ha Peres.

He seems to forget that it was the British, British officaldom with the support of the British media and general support of the British public who gave the Jewish Zionists the chance to create a 'National Homeland' in Palestine for the Jewish people with the issuing of the Balfour Declaration in November 1917 and subsequent British Mandate in Palestine.

The Anti-Semite card is becoming weaker and weaker as it is trotted out every couple of hours to defend every Israeli action.

Really Peres your boring.

the Prozionist people are the real Antisemitic
which control the entire Israel Gov and 3/4 of the USA congress

put EVERYONE combined (racial, negative, contructive. possitive) comments on Israel would not even come close to the Israel Gov itselft of being antisemitic
they harm the national interest with their arrogant,racist,hitler attitude
constantly wanting a war everywhere ... they put their own population at risk... they put ALL THE JEW at risk by doing what they do
they have lost any credibility and reputation they had
even their souls is at risk...

if somebody tell me or anyone here on ATS that we are antisemitic
then the Israel Gov and the prozinism movement is logically x1000000000000 more antisemitic than any of us will ever be...
of course some can be racist(after a negative racial slur) because they are jew ... or black .. or white... some people dont accept that difference in the color
im against any racism ...(many rabbi told that 1 jew worth a thousand arab... and that they are subhuman)
another proof that ther are antisemitic...saying racist stuff like that
will harm their credibility and reputation and can put at risk any jew worldwide

so conclusion WE CANT BE LABELLED ANTISEMITIC
while they are themself a thousand times more than us

all of their falseflag mossad operation are antisemitic
its time to start telling them WHO ARE THE REAL ANTISEMITIC = Israel
but not generaly
many are good jewish people ... that tomorrow i would gladly take a coffee or a beer with them...
i only have a problem ..im really racist to racists people themself
now i can say "i hate antisemitic people"
since
the Israel Gov and all the people who agree with them are the REAL ANTISEMITIC



[edit on 8/1/2010 by Ben81]

HAHA Peres you nonce....

I like the part were he said

"England's attitude towards Jews was Israel's "next big problem".

Wonder if he will blockade the British isles?
Not likely, Israel would get there asses wooped. Just like Thatcher threatend them with in the 80's and they backed down.

That's very offensive considering it was the English who stood up to the Nazi's and freed the Jews from concentration camps. Didn't we also help set up the state of Israel, just because they cant play nice with their neighbors they blame the English. whoever does Israels PR, they need to be sacked

I live in England and have never heard that saying before, i think this is just a case of trying to get the MSM to look at Englands actions rather than Isreals, i know we aren't perfect but at least we are learning from our mistakes

here is a saying for you "make sure your own house is in order before judging someone's home"

He didn't accuse the English of being anti-semitic. That lurid, headline-grabbing allegation just isn't true.

Here's a link to the original interview.

The Tablet

An insult to my Grandfather - who was a very brave man in the war.

He saw the worst of humanity and it was him and other brave men who gave the suffering jews a chance of escape.

How quick Israel forgets.

Israel's president has accused the English of being anti-semitic

Zionist mentality is always accusing others of being racist when it is they who are in fact the most discriminatory group in the world.

Israel (disclaimer: zionists etc) are really pushing their luck with all this 'world hates us' rhetoric. They are essentially the new Nazi's, anyone that disagrees with them is a racist/bigot and Israel should be able to do whatever it likes!

Can't agree that we're especially 'pro-arab' either, Arabs get watched very closely on public transportation nowadays, if anything that's more discriminatory.

[edit on 1-8-2010 by Xadaz]

Oh fekking boy, not this again! These asshats are too stupid to realize their NOT even Semite!!! In fact, the people they bomb, terrorize and kill are more Semite than they can ever hope to be!

Next, let's simply assume that the zionists ARE Semite - just for the fun of it. Wouldn't logic dictate that the reason that they are so widely despised is because of their hubris and arrogance!? People have their limits. Hit them enough times and they are liekly to fight back - first with words. The zionists had better start to realize that pretty soon, words will turn into actions!

Hilarious. Seriously and unabashedly hilarious. For all you English out there who might need this translated, here you go: "You don't send us billions a year to help us fight our enemy. You don't blindly assemble your religious and political leaders and have them spread the word for us to support our cause. You don't support keeping your military here to get our backs. You don't side with us on every issue. You know, like they do in the U.S."

If you are against the Health care bill. you are racist
if you are against the banker bailout, you are racist
if you are against closing the border, you are racist,
If you are against Zionism you are racist,
If you are for giving cookies to children, you are racist
if you are against tyranny, you are racist
If you are against repression, you are racist
if you are against war, you are racist...
If you are against stealing someone elses home and lands, you are racist...

one of these things is not like the others

Maybe someone should tell him that there's a colossal difference between being anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist. Oh, and also that Semites aren't just Jews

[edit on 1/8/10 by The Empty Skies]

Its all good,

The more peoples Israel turn into enemies, Then the less chance Israel has of surviving (Just like Rhodesia). which has to be good for the Palestinians and all of the Middle East.

THis is ridiculous, just because English papers write that they don't agree with how Israel handled themselves, and openly call them when they break international law, they've now listed "all English" as jew haters?

It's time that the rest of the world stopped taking crap from Israel, and recognized them as the apartheid state that they've become. They don't have equal rights for all citizens, and regularly downtread on large portions of their society simply because of their race or upbringing (Palestinians). That is the very definition of racist.

Israel has become one of the most racist nations on the planet, but every single time something bad is printed about it, they accuse the printer of being "antisemetic"?

Do they realize that "semetic" actually means ARAB, not JEW?

When South Africa had the same policy, almost the entire world had sanctions against them. What makes Israel so different? Sanctions NOW until they treat Palestinains as regular citizens. South Africa had a terrorist problem with their Black population too, and were condemned by the World for handling it in the same way.

I'm definitely not anti-jew or anti-semetic, but it's time that the rest of the world stopped handling Israel with kid gloves. Their grace period should have been over years ago.

[edit on 1-8-2010 by babybunnies]