BREAKING: Iran envoy to UN: Tel Aviv will go up in flames if Israel attacks us

Give me a break people.

So many here are so ready to jump on Israel when they are accused of prepping for an attack on Iran. Yet if an American makes that kind of statement like....

Moscow or Beijing will be in flames if China or Russia Attacks the US! Then it would be considered a "War Monger just asking for a war"

Right?

pffft.

Sometimes people here so easily fall for it.

PEACE

Slay


[edit on 31-7-2010 by SLAYER69]

BREAKING: Iran envoy to UN: Tel Aviv will go up in flames if Israel attacks us

Seriously, they are starting to sound like North Korea.

Shrugs.

If I had a nickel every time Iran said...

well you know the saying.

I bet you the two countries love each other when the cameras aren't rolling.

Originally posted by jam321
I bet you the two countries love each other when the cameras aren't rolling.

I had to stop from writing my next reply, I was laughing so hard. That is so true and funny. That IS funny because unless either side has the spot light on them neither has the center stage and they really have nothing to say.

Iran missile force is a joke. Until they develop nukes, nuke warheads and deploys hundreds of Sajil solid-state missiles.

Until then, they talk loud but their missile power is no match AT ALL for the nukes and conventional missiles Jericho of Israel.

By Tel-Aviv goes up in flames, I think they say that Hezbollah will attack Tel-Aviv and maybe even Syria with their solid state missiles M-600.

Because Iran by itself right now against Tel-Aviv... mwahahahaha

[edit on 31-7-2010 by Vitchilo]

Israel,Hezbollah,Syria and Iran have been indulging in verbal boxing for quite a while now. I think they are acting like North Korea of the middle east.

Iran will keep saying it until Israel believes it for certain, then, Israel will simply nuke Iran for it's own protection. This is why, or one of the reasons the US attacked Iraq. Saddam kept saying "We got nukes, we got chemicals, we got bio-weapons.." Until one day the US was certain they did, then BAM !

So, then, let Iran continue with the game, then one day, BAM !

It might just be nice for these countries like Iran, or North Korea to push a little so Isreal can nuke Iran into a glass plate. Also so South Korea can take over North Korea and be united again. I did not mention my own country the United States doing anything because I dont think our President would want to hurt his own people.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
Iran missile force is a joke. Until they develop nukes, nuke warheads and deploys hundreds of Sajil solid-state missiles.

Until then, they talk loud but their missile power is no match AT ALL for the nukes and conventional missiles Jericho of Israel.

By Tel-Aviv goes up in flames, I think they say that Hezbollah will attack Tel-Aviv and maybe even Syria with their solid state missiles M-600.

Because Iran by itself right now against Tel-Aviv... mwahahahaha

[edit on 31-7-2010 by Vitchilo]

You are correct that Irans missle force can not do much of anything against Israel. Irans real threat is that they will start tossing missles at population centers (only thing big enough they have a chance of hitting) in the Iraq, Turkey and the Arab Gulf States. Of course this would draw in others against Iran but, Iran will assume they are backing it anyway. This is of course if Iran manages to get any off the ground before they are bombed. Irans Airforce and air defences are either very old or junk and mostly a combination of both. Israel could expect suicide bombings at cafes, malls etc. though.

Edit to add: And Syria will not touch a war with Israel with a ten foot poll. They have learned that lesson far to many times.

[edit on 31-7-2010 by MrSpad]

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Well said, Mazzroth. I believe you aptly describe the political terrain in the M.E.

As well we are set to lose several ships in retaliation for aiding and abetting the war crime about to happen.

Carrier groups need over horizon stand off which does not really exist in the bottle that is the Persian Gulf... but I guess the warmongers need massive casualty MSM PHOTO OP (yet another Peal Harbor) to really rile the rest of the sheople back here stateside.

Oh and for all those USA-USA-USA! false bravado types...

have you forgotten the 2002 War games / exercises where LtGen Van Riper played the OPFOR in this exact situation? 16 US warships went to the bottom.

This is not something I WANT to be right about but I dont think it will be averted.

ya savvy?

I don't remember seeing any USA USA USA people. So take that kind of crap and keep it out. You'll only start a flame war.

reply to post by Fromabove


Exactly! And there is a huge difference between warning and become a threat. Saying "Tel Aviv will go up in flames if Israel attacks us" isn't a warning, it's a threat.

Originally posted by AntiShyster
Oh and for all those USA-USA-USA! false bravado types...

have you forgotten the 2002 War games / exercises where LtGen Van Riper played the OPFOR in this exact situation? 16 US warships went to the bottom.

This is not something I WANT to be right about but I dont think it will be averted.

ya savvy?

You know we always lose wargames right? The idea is that you throw all kinds of crazy impossible scenerios to see how leadership reacts. Running the OPFOR is fun as its like playing with all the cheats. These are valuable training tools that teach you to never underestimate your enemy. They however should never be looked at as some sort of prediction of how a conflict will happen.

reply to post by AntiShyster


You mean Millenium Challenge 2002 wargames?

That was to simulate Iraq's response.

Of course Saddam never did anything Van Riper did in those wargames. But according to several Iraqis higher ups, Saddam really did not believe that the US would really attack him.

Iran on the other hand, have been seriously preparing for a US-Israel attack since at least 2004.

And they nominated a specialist in unconventional war as general in charge of their defense against a US-Israel attack. I think it's the guy who set up most of Hezbollah infrastructure and plans. He was nominated two years ago. So if he didn't lose his time, and he set up an Iranian defense as effective as the Hezbollah defense in Lebanon, this could get REAL BAD for the US in the persian gulf.

BTW the only thing the Iranian missiles could really do is strike US bases in Afghanistan, Iraq and gas fields in Saudi Arabia... those missiles would be a waste if launched against Israel.

Of course Iran got chemical and biological weapons. But using only one of them and it would surely means Iran getting nuked. I doubt they would use them.

And even if in the future Iran were to get nukes, they wouldn't nuke Israel. You know why? DOME OF THE ROCK.

[edit on 1-8-2010 by Vitchilo]

Originally posted by jacktherer
I do not agree that this is serious although I have not yet read the article. Iran is almost constantly saying "Whoever should attack us shall go up in holy cleansing flames"

True, but they are almost constantly always under threat from being attacked, a threat like that demands a similar response and I don't blame Iran one bit for that.

We are talking about Iran, a democracy that fought and overturned American infiltration and got their country and government back, a country that has never attacked another country.

People still have fresh in their minds the fast Afghanistan invasion, which had no proper infrastructer, and then Iraq, more advanced than Afghanistan but no Iran that was carpet bombed by a huge coalition and occupied in a heartbeat.

Iran will be a whole different story, they've been preparing for this for a long time, western intelligence isn't sure what their full capability is, and they have a lot of missiles over a lot of land ready to fire.... a lot.

Sure, the US are expected to support and join Israel in any attack but they are a bit stretched right now, I don't think anyone can say with certainty how this war will go if it actually kicks off, but it's a very scary prospect and could be the next world war 3.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Yet if an American makes that kind of statement like....

Moscow or Beijing will be in flames if China or Russia Attacks the US! Then it would be considered a "War Monger just asking for a war"

If Moscow or Beijing had been threatening the US in the lead up to the statement ...... then no , it wouldn`t be considered warmongering.


"Iran envoy to UN: Tel Aviv will go up in flames if Israel attacks us "

The key words are if Israel attacks us.


They are describing their intended Reaction .

Iran have every right to defend themselves from the USA or Israel.

If it was Iran threatening Israel, then i'd say Israel have every right to defend themselves from Iran.

But most people would rather believe that Iranians are stereotypical middle easterners, as opposed to a very intelligent and developed nation. Yes it has its faults, but so does every country and nation on the planet.

Quit with the war-mongering talk, bloody armchair generals.

Originally posted by Fromabove

Iran will keep saying it until Israel believes it for certain, then, Israel will simply nuke Iran for it's own protection. This is why, or one of the reasons the US attacked Iraq. Saddam kept saying "We got nukes, we got chemicals, we got bio-weapons.." Until one day the US was certain they did, then BAM !

So, then, let Iran continue with the game, then one day, BAM !

First of all, I fail to see your logic in connecting Saddam saying "we got bio-weapons" to Iran saying "we DON'T have nukes but will fight back if we are attacked"

Secondly, was the Iraq war not ILLIGAL? Were there any bio or chemical weapons found? I could see how you might want to use Iraq as an example had there been a just cause for war but facts have now shown that there was not.

Lastly, to say "Israel will simply nuke Iran" is plain ignorant. If nuking another country was that "simple" then we would be seeing it happen more often as there are plenty of countries with nukes that don't like one another.

Maybe it's time to give your head a shake or else one day you might wake-up from your state of ignorance and your head will go... BAM!

[edit on 1-8-2010 by endlessknowledge]

Originally posted by mr-lizard
Iran have every right to defend themselves from the USA or Israel.

If it was Iran threatening Israel, then i'd say Israel have every right to defend themselves from Iran.

But most people would rather believe that Iranians are stereotypical middle easterners, as opposed to a very intelligent and developed nation. Yes it has its faults, but so does every country and nation on the planet.

Quit with the war-mongering talk, bloody armchair generals.

Well how would you view Iran funding and arming groups that attack Israel on a pretty regular basis? Would an attack on Iran not be Israel just defending itself? That is the very pretext Iran used for attacking Kuwaiti tankers and attempted air raids on Kuwaits oil fields. Iran has hardly been a well behaved neighbor for the other muslim nations of the Gulf and Africa , most have had coup attempts and rebel groups that were traced back to Iran. These acts of course pushed most of those states into closer ties with the US and except in a few places (Yemen, Iraq, Somolia, Lebanon, Palestine) Iran has stopped fudning such groups. Iran once had a goal of spreading the revolution and most of its bad reputation is result of those actions. While no actor in this drama is an innocent, the reality is that each one will act in its best intrest right or wrong.