Are college fraternities a junior secret society? Pi Sigma Epsilon?

I have a question.

In college, when I took marketing courses, I noticed that there was a professional marketing fraternity called Pi Sigma Epsilon that recruited marketing students aspiring to be marketing professionals.

They had secret handshakes and used candles in dark rooms in their initiation ceremonies, which looked occult-like.

I never understood why all that was necessary for a professional organization that helps you in the corporate world? Why the occult like scenes?

So I was wondering, since Michael Tsarion claims that occult symbols are used in advertising and the media as forms of social mind control and manipulation, are these professional fraternities a kind of junior secret society?

If so, if you get high up in Pi Sigma Epsilon, do you then get initiated into a higher level where they teach you these Illuminati symbols that are used in advertising, so you can carry out the Illuminati's agenda in the mass media?

How does it all connect? Is Pi Sigma Epsilon just a front to screen people out to qualify to get into the "advertising illuminati"?

Any idea?

So what are the fraternities for? Why can't the students just make it on good grades and work ethic alone?

Its sigma philosophy epsilon.

And different fraternities cater to different groups at different university's.

I was a founding father of said fraternity at my university And I can conclusively tell you first hand that no there is no conspiracy or secret society involved.

i know most here aren´t a fan of Mr. Alex Jones but he talks a bit about this in his book; the bohemian grove.

as i recall correctly skull and bones is the fraternity name of Yale university?

alex sais it's recruitment from tptb to find certain people with certain characteristics, to put in certain places of power, where ever it suits them most. (that's a whole lot of certains ")

i do might or might NOT share this opinion.

just throwing this out there

[edit on 1-8-2010 by kn0wh0w]

as I understand it frats are indeed a sort of junior secret society but not necessarily wi any post-grad agenda. alumni tend to network; I don't know how much specific frats do. I think of them sort of like a junior Masons. I think a lot of the secret stuff is just post-adolescent halloween spooky fun.

some of the really 'exceptional' outifts (like the skull/bones) might indeed have post-grad ops. I just don't know that much about groups like that.

I've read that the KKK was patterned along college fraternity lines

When I joined the Masons I was just starting college and a few members were indeed alumni of the local chapter of Kappa Sigma. I ended up joining (obviously by my username) and found the similarities between the two groups.

For the most part, only a few go on to join groups like the Masons after college while most enjoy the Brotherhood and networking of the Alumni.

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People are weird.....if you would ask any of the people in such a society why they are part of such a society they will tell you that it is because of the nice people in that society or the future career opportunities it might offer....

BS......

They are not any different then those big bad leathery motorcycle gangs or mafia members. Scared to function and think for them selfs!! It is always reassuring to find like-minded people to buddy-up with in order to confirm your believes and thoughts. You are not alone!!

You know what the really sad part is?? They aren't even aware that the motivations that they will give you for joining a certain group, isn't even the real reason they think so positive about "their" group.

Why do you think each "special group" has a initiation ritual?? It's because it strengthens the bond with that group. The harder and more barbaric the ritual is, the stronger the bond with that group will be.......

But if you ask those same people why they like their group so much, never will they say because of the initiation ritual. It's a trick of our conscious/subconscious mind. The conscious mind will find make up any excuse why they joint because people like to think that their choices are well thought out and that they are in control. They never realize that it was the initiation ritual and the subconscious mind that is making them feel this strong association with that group.

The conscious mind is giving us the illusion of control while we are merely slave of our subconscious. We think we know the reasons but the reasons are more often not what we think.

Look up the work of Dr. Eliot Aronson and Dr. Judson Mills on the study of group behavior and initiation rituals.

In the end I guess we are all sheep. Slave of our subconscious mind.

Peace

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In my experience, as both a Freemason and a brother of Sigma Tau Gamma, I can say that college fraternities are a lot more about having fun, and freemasonry is more serious, and much more focused on brotherhood (in my own opinion through my own experience.) I never really felt much of a connection to my fraternity brothers, but do with my brother Masons.

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i think our indoctrination into "secret societies" begins as early as possible by the social engineering machine.

seek writ so sigh et
secret society



i learned in 3rd grade about compound words, and how they are comprised of words and syllables that already have meanings and definitions themselves.

who am i to call my third grade teacher a liar?

but, my third grade teacher didn't have enough time to teach us all the compound words that existed....


disc + low + sure = disclosure

but maybe my math is wrong?

ah, who am i and what do i know,
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I personally dont know or hae any knowledge about this topic.

But ive wondered it myself. I definitely believe certain, more 'secret' collegiate societies are steeped in occult philosophy and ritual, and this is is sorta where the illuminati or those who are invited in are educated in the philosopy and matter during their collegiate days.

But some i think, although having esoteric names, rooted in greek, are probably mor about fun and gams than esoterica. Though, i do believe all are founded on such principles and most are probably in some shape or form involved with an occult ideology.

Doubtful. At least with a good majority of them the only things they wanna do is get drunk and get tail.