Was George Lucas whistleblowing the NWO to us in his Star Wars Prequels?

Check out this video explaining how the Star Wars Prequels show how False Flag terror attacks worked in creating a NWO dictatorship in the Star Wars Prequel Universe:



Article about it here

So I was wondering, how does Lucas know anything about False Flag Terrorism and the NWO? Has he publicly expressed a belief in them? Or does he have inside knowledge that he is trying to whistleblow to us?

Also, when he created the Death Star, was he trying to tell us that our moon is inhabited and hollow, like David Icke claims?

Does Lucas know any government secrets regarding ET's? If so, how?

I thought he was just a nerd who got lucky? I heard he was a student of mythology. But how does he know about conspiracies?



[edit on 31-7-2010 by WWu777]

Star Wars huh?
No, Lucas was just telling a story, a so so story at that.
ATTENTION TEENS!
Star Wars, The Matrix, ETC are Movies! Movies! Made to make money, not philosophical statements! Fiction!
As significant as a Swiffer commercial!
Good grief........!

No, I don't think he was whistleblowing. That is just the way artistic genius works. All sorts of thoughts and ideas are contained in the collective unconscious. Using intermittent and unconscious psi, an artist taps into the collective psyche for inspiration.

Real or not, these sorts of archetypal ideas are in the collective unconscious and will come out through art. Through 'the Muses'. The archetypes are the same and so the applicability is vast. Synchronicity will occur.

www.ted.com...

[edit on 31-7-2010 by Student X]

reply to post by OldDragger


Who are you to say a swiffer commercial isn't signifigant? It gives cleaning a whole new meaning!

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OP, I don't think star wars is really meant as a warning. 'False flag' terror has been going since the Roman empire (at least since then). Its nothing new. The original matrix has more symbology, but non-fiction works are a lot better anyway if you want to learn anything.

Interesting notions of the collective unconscious affecting artist's creativity.

Interesting rejections of the idea without any real explanation.

My thoughts - Lucas is a well educated creative man. He clearly knows that Hitler used a false flag (Reichstag fire) to get his Enabling Law passed and create a dictatorship. I would hazard a guess that he used this as inspiration when creating the story. There are other parallels with historic events throughout the Star Wars films - colonialism and the Ewoks for example!

Not a massive fan of Star Wars - I love sci-fi, but prefer books by the likes of Asimov - but found this link which gives a mass of decently referenced info on the origins of Star Wars - Nazis and WW2 mentioned on this page so have linked that, but the preceeding dozen or so pages were interesting. A massive range of knowledge, learning and reasing went into this - for me, that is the real collective unconsious, something we can all truly access and share and use.

www.moongadget.com...

Hope the link works - is my first attempt at linking stuff on ATS.

AIYO

[edit on 31-7-2010 by anarchosyndicalist]

We can certainly relate to many points in it, especially political, but I don't think George Lucas had any intentions that are not along the lines of entertaining people and profit. We interpret everything in our own way and I guess a lot of people here do see the relation between the rise of the "Empire" and our own governments.

Originally posted by OldDragger

Star Wars huh?
No, Lucas was just telling a story, a so so story at that.
ATTENTION TEENS!
Star Wars, The Matrix, ETC are Movies! Movies! Made to make money, not philosophical statements! Fiction!
As significant as a Swiffer commercial!
Good grief........!

How do you trick yourself into believing that?

because you couldn't be farther from the truth....

You have been tricked..and those who have been tricked often don't know it...


People are too cocky to think they have been duped.

Forget the prequels, just look at the original trilogy... from the iconic imagery, to the epic scope, Star Wars included so many references to everything from the fall of Rome to King Arthur to Buddhism that it does the man a disservice to claim that any of his movies pertain to any one specific historical or present conspiracy... moreso because George Lucas has proven himself, with his prequels, to be a sub-par director and screenwriter (Irvin Kirshner, anyone?)... if you asked him directly IMO whether the prequels were about the NWO, you'd get a nod and a wink... and then he'd propably recuse himself to Wikipedia the Bilderbergers.

The whole series in some form or fashion touches on conspiracy in both a contemporary, yet mythological way. Was this by his own personal design because he's such a brilliant man he can weave each into a seamless pattern of storytelling? I have to say no...

Originally posted by OldDragger

Star Wars huh?
No, Lucas was just telling a story, a so so story at that.
ATTENTION TEENS!
Star Wars, The Matrix, ETC are Movies! Movies! Made to make money, not philosophical statements! Fiction!
As significant as a Swiffer commercial!
Good grief........!

As usual Dragger drags his perspective over those of others.

I'd expect nothing less and why he is on my foes list.

Several movies like much of the music of the past has been
written with an implied warning.

Some like 1984 and Brave New World had the courage to be in your
face about them, some left it a little vague out fear or not knowing
if the real events would vary greatly from those they portray.

So dragger you can stay in denial right up to the point you become
part of rule #1 on the georgia guidestones.

reply to post by LucidDreamer85


OR... you are just a media creation.
Raised on TV and movies, video games and internet garbage.
Trained from birth to think media is not just entertainment! IT'S IMPORTANT!!! Just like pop music is IMPORTANT!
Thats so you will keep buying it.
Or you are a teen.
So, how much money was made? Any corporate involvement?
how nieve.

[edit on 31-7-2010 by OldDragger]

reply to post by Ex_MislTech


Thank you!
And the Georgia guidestones are just the creation of , yet another nut.
Boy, are you headed for a lifetime of dissappointment!

Lucas intelligent? After watching Return of the Jedi I didn't think so. Why would someone smart make such a dumb movie with a cliched ending? The Ewoks defeating the Empire was like a cheap comedy. It ruined the whole Trilogy. Things could have ended on a better note than that. I would have preferred a D-Day type of ending for the Empire, instead of a bunch of stupid accidents that make no sense.

Why did he do that?

I heard that Lucas had connections to the NSA. Is that true?

Didn't he have a line against George Bush when he had Annakin say "You are either with us or against us"?

Question:

Why do sci fi movies ALWAYS show a bleak future in which either:

1) Humans have been wiped out in a nuclear holocaust, and only a few have survived and struggle for life.

and/or

2) Humans have become slaves to an evil government and turned into robots and zombies?

Why do they never show an optimistic happy future for mankind?

Is there an agenda?

Could it be that subconsciously, we all know about conspiracies, and so they have to control what's in our subconscious by putting it in movies to make our conscious minds think it is all fiction?



[edit on 1-8-2010 by WWu777]

George Lucas is absolutely an insider (not a whistleblower since he is in on it), along with people like Chris Carter, Steven Spielberg, George Orwell, Stanley Kubrick, the Wachowski brothers etc.

Its kind of obvious.

That statement "I WILL be chancellor" at 1:25 in the video above reminds me so much of this:

Google Video Link

The vision of the UN founders... look into what people who founded UN. You have some interesting discoveries to make.



[edit on 1-8-2010 by Copernicus]

I was wondering, why is it that TV shows and movies before the mid 80's were more campy and fun, with good family values, and had characters that were charming and full of goodness?

But after the mid 80's, the shows and characters started to become dark and gritty? An example of this is the old Battlestar Galactica vs. the new one. Dirk Benedict (the original Starbuck) pointed out the same comparisons as me, and noticed how the producers were trying to get you to forget the old Battlestar Galactica.

www.dirkbenedictcentral.com...

People who don't believe in conspiracies will say that it was simply because that's what the public wanted. But I don't buy that. I don't believe that all of a sudden people in the 80's suddenly wanted shows that were dark and gritty and bleak, with cold mean characters in them, and got sick of shows with charm and goodness and family values. No way.

Obviously, things were engineered that way for some purpose. But why? To turn Americans cold and gritty? For what purpose? Why can't Americans be turned into happy wholesome people? Happy people also consume and buy things too, so why not have a happy populace instead? Wouldn't that be better for the economy?

I have a feeling that the reasons behind this are probably very dark and disturbing and most of you would be in disbelief if you knew what it was.

If you research the term "Hollywood" you'll find that it means "Druid Magic" or something. There is a lot of occult symbolism used in it too.

[edit on 1-8-2010 by WWu777]

reply to post by WWu777


There is a reason they call it "TV programming".

The reason for the dark future scenarios is probably because they want us to accept it and think there are no alternatives. They want us to get used to the idea.

But they didnt count on so many people waking up and realizing what the heck is going on, and lots of people today are wondering why the world is so depressing and if it has to be that way.

No it doesnt.


[edit on 1-8-2010 by Copernicus]

Check out this interesting post I found:

www.davidicke.com...

FWIW, this is my opinion:

Hollywood is about one thing and it's not entertainment or, ultimately, even
about making money. It's about social engineering and it has always been
that way. It's not that there are films or directors that do push the agenda
and films or directors that don't push the agenda. They all push the
agenda in some way and they always have pushed the agenda since the
very beginning. This applies to all of Hollywood including movies, TV, music,
etc.

I worked in Hollywood for years in the "trenches" of its lower ranks. In fact
I'm even in Spielberg's War of the Worlds myself (for about a second) and
was directed by him in another scene in that movie that never saw the light
of day (SOP in Hollywood). That one second on screen was the end product
of four of the longest and most grueling days I have ever spent on a movie
set, BTW, but I digress.

Looking at Hollywood from within its lower rungs over a period of more than a
decade gives one a certain perspective that you're not likely to hear about
as frequently as from those nearer the top of the food chain. What the
public hears about Hollywood usually comes from its upper echelons but the
realities of Hollywood can be quite different from that.

Long story short, Hollywood is not a fun place. Apart from the often
horrendous treatment of employees, it's a place where conning the public is
regarded as an inside joke. The basic joke being that one shows a sincere
face to the general public while, in truth, taking them for all their worth.

For example, Disney is a prime example of this (but is only one example).
Disney has the public image of 'sweetness and light' but is in reality the most
bloodthirsty employer in Hollywood, a commonly held opinion among those
real people who have actually worked for them.

Anyway, my point is that Hollywood lies. Not only does it lie but it prides
itself in its lies and thinks its lies to the 'outsider peons' are hilarious. So, I
wouldn't take what any of these guys (Spielberg, Lucas, et al) have to say
with any degree of confidence or as any sort of indication of their true
intentions or feelings.

Originally posted by Copernicus

George Lucas is absolutely an insider (not a whistleblower since he is in on it), along with people like Chris Carter, Steven Spielberg, George Orwell, Stanley Kubrick, the Wachowski brothers etc.

Its kind of obvious.

That statement "I WILL be chancellor" at 1:25 in the video above reminds me so much of this:

Google Video Link

The vision of the UN founders... look into what people who founded UN. You have some interesting discoveries to make.

[edit on 1-8-2010 by Copernicus]

If he is an insider, then what was his purpose in showing False Flags in the Star Wars Prequels? What is that supposed to accomplish? Why is he leaking their secrets?

And didn't Kubrick get killed for exposing secrets in "Eyes Wide Shut"?

If all directors are insiders into the Illuminati, does that mean they have all joined Secret Societies to get where they're at?

reply to post by WWu777


Not everybody in the Illuminati wants the same things. These groups are constantly arguing with each other about what they want to do, and they dont agree. So instead of nothing being revealed to the public, some things actually are.

But the large majority living in the tiny box have no idea what movies are. They think its just entertainment. But Hollywood and TV programming are like factories for constructing the perception of the world for people.

When I think of Africa, I think of children with flies in their eyes. That image comes from TV alone since Ive never been there. What do you think when you hear Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan.... probably you get news flashes from the tube with people firing in the sky or soldiers kicking in doors... or maybe you dont. But if you havent been there, whatever image you get will be from the media.

Programming.



[edit on 1-8-2010 by Copernicus]

its possible that movies have these deep messages

but its just insane to say that you are CERTAIN that he did it on purpose

a lot of movies are about false flags ...