Interesting dolphin Bubbles...must see this :)

Originally posted by dr treg
It is always amusing when someone says that one organism is "more intelligent" than another i.e.
1. Man can kill dolphins at will and so man is more intelligent than dolphins even though man cannot swim down to the depths of the ocean that dolphins are able to achieve.
2. Man is more intelligent than an ant which can crawl up vertical surfaces carrying a leaf heavier than it`s body-weight.
It is not comparing like-with-like. Perhaps "intelligence" is a measure of where one is in the food chain? The higher up one is the more murderous one becomes.
I am waiting for The Cove film to be delivered. The film seems to confirm man`s current attitude to other organisms.
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Actually it would be the contrary, dolphins are more intelligent because they don't kill humans at will - they understand the underlying truths that we have lost in the maelstrom of technology and toys.

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Dolphins are pretty amazing as-well as other creatures on this planet but i doubt god created anything

hmm - have none of you seen the simpsons episodes where the dolphins kick everyone else out of springfield?

back on topic - there are loads (ish) of stories including ones where dolphins fight off sharks to protect humans ( as well as each other).

my favourite though is the gary larsson cartoon with a multi-lingual dolphin that cannot speak english trying to communicate with the humans who think it is a 'dumb' animal because they cannot understand any of the noises coming from it (like parlez-vous francais, hablais espanyol..)

Originally posted by badgerprints
I'm stumped.

Seems like the rings would rise to the surface as they are air.

How do they get them to go horizontally and even down when the laws of physics say the air should go up?

Where are the geniuses who can explain this to me?

Beautiful footage.

I had the same issue! Why do the bubbles not rise? Quickly at that!

Originally posted by MMPI2

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander

Originally posted by ArkayikRuination
I wasn't aware that dolphins could do this. I wonder how deep their intelligence runs.

Well, clearly they are not as intelligent as humans.

Sometimes you just have to wonder at those who argue that humans are the most intelligent species on the planet.

DOLPHINS, SMOLPHINS!!

I am fascinated by this guy!!! How can I learn how to get an entire can of beer into my mouth?! Now that's talent!!

Pulling my face up over my face....God, if only I could do that!!!

LOL, that guy has it all. Looks like a chimp when he opens his mouth and pulls his mouth back, reminds me of that little Bettlejuice guy. I had a friend who could fit a whole apple into his mouth. We were wasted and he tried it, got it stuck and he could only breathe through his nose. I think there are species on earth that have more common sense than most humans. I don't see any other animals trying to fit the largest object in their mouth they can before it gets stuck.

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S&F. I knew dolphins are smart, but that is impressive. It is very sad those animals are trapped like that.

Makes me wonder, those fish were one day living their normal lives, doing normal things like look for food, interact with their family,ect. and then a more intelligent species from outside the ocean environment comes and takes them against their will for reasons they do not understand.

Hmm, sounds familiar..

Nice thread.

I knew about this from a while back, but I have never seen it here, on ATS. It is amazing to a dolphin's intelligence, and to see new things it can do. Or so I'm guessing that it is amazing. It must be.

Every time I look at dolphins, they remind me of they're intelligence, and (to be honest) how they are slaughtered in Japan. It really enrages me...

Intelligent creatures keeping their mind active in a limited environment.

Perhaps This could be a direct result of being in captivity?

Is there any proof of this behaviour in a Dolphins natural environment?

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I know.. I think knowing this, in our own way, we're also blowing our own bubbles and hoping to ignore reality.

We're trapped by the insanity around us, caged by the absolute inability to change things we know are wrong.

If we only kept our abuses to ourselves, I might not be so jaded, but we share it among every living creature..

Originally posted by badgerprints
I'm stumped.

Seems like the rings would rise to the surface as they are air.

How do they get them to go horizontally and even down when the laws of physics say the air should go up?

Where are the geniuses who can explain this to me?

Beautiful footage.

They're in the tank, and we've yet to learn their laws of underwater physics!!!

Uh... yeah they're cute... until...

For the last 17 years or so, marine biologists have begun paying a great deal of attention to dead baby dolphins and porpoises of all ages washing up ashore, and we quote, 'mangled in unexpected ways.' The discovery that Bottlenose Dolphins were occasionally viciously reconfiguring their own children wasn't really all that much of a big deal. Humans are the only species on the planet that actually gives even a tiny # about infanticide. It was what the dolphins were doing to the porpoises that entered the domain of the 'seriously #ed-up'. Thirteen-foot male Bottlenose Dolphins were hunting down porpoises, beating to death and then playing with their corpses, all for no readily apparent reason. At the time of this writing, the majority opinion of the marine science community was that this breathtakingly savage interspecies homicide is for--and this is Science, here--#s 'n' giggles. Read more: www.cracked.com...

Reports of ludicrously sexually aggressive dolphins attempting to rape human women abound from all over the globe. And in 1994, a male Bottlenose off the coast of San Paolo, Brazil, that was noted to be fond of female human swimmers attacked a pair of human males that the dolphin apparently considered to be competition ... and killed one of them. Sure, some accounts say the man was drunk, and was actively trying to shove a stick into the dolphin's blowhole at the time. And several locals had apparently first tried to drag it out of the water so they could take a picture with it, maybe first dressing it up with a top hat and monocle. And here, of course, we have arrived at our lesson: when dealing with animals, you need to forget everything you learned from cartoons. The results can be deadly otherwise. Read more: www.cracked.com...

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Beautiful!

Sometimes a second line is not really necessary.

I saw this years ago and dolphins are amazing but hyenas beat them hands down if you dig a little.

UN_BELIEVABLE!!!!!! I am practically speechless as to the elegence and beauty as well as the fun these dolphins are creating. I see this and I think "You cant tell me now that Dolphins are just mindless animals!!" wow...just...wow...and I am not a "Animal Lover" per se...I am not into cruelty to animals at all nor Am I a SAVE THE WHALES/BABY SEALS etc..sort of person..but this....this just amazes me and saddens me to think men still hunt these wonderful beings for food. what a shame.

Awsome post, never been a big fan of dolphins but that sure is kool....I am also facinated by why the bubbles dont rise...but then they seem to be the exact opposite of a bubble a "reverse" bubble if u will. instead of small flim of fluid supported by/seperating air...it seems to be a small rift/flim of air supported by/seperating water..and they look like snakes sometimes...maybe since they are reverse bubbles they have reverse physic's cause they seem to actually be falling down....im glad to see dolphins seem to find it just as trippy as we do. lol

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Wow!!! That is cool. As a matter of fact the bubbles almost look like they are defying laws of physics.

Is there some type of proof this is real and not the result of a visual artist having fun? What gives me the most reason to suspect something isn't on the up and up is when the dolphin breaks the larger ring, creating a smaller ring and that suddenly expands back up to roughly the size of the ring it was split off from seemingly without any new blowing from the creature. This just doesn't add up in my head.

So, can anyone confirm the validity of this?

Here is a nice explanation for the bubble rings:

Dolphins create bubble rings by blowing air in a water vortex ring: by flipping a fin they create a vortex ring of water. The then blow air in the ring, which goes to the center of the vortex ring. In the water vortex ring the natural location of the air is in the center of the vortex. When air and water move in a circular path like they do in the vortex ring, air and water are separated due to the centripetal force. Since density of water is larger than air, water moves at the outside, while the air ends up in the middle.

engineering.curiouscatblog.net...

ETA: Humans can do it too!



Also, from Wikipedia:

A bubble ring is an underwater ring vortex where an air bubble occupies the core of the vortex, forming a ring shape. The ring of air as well as the nearby water spins poloidally as it travels through the water, much like a flexible bracelet might spin when it is rolled off a person's arm. The faster the bubble ring spins, the more stable it becomes. Bubble rings and smoke rings are both examples of vortex rings, the physics of which is still under active study in fluid dynamics. Devices have been invented which generate bubble vortex rings.

en.wikipedia.org...

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hey Aggie Man good find, but can u find a video of that guy making the rings move down in the water?, around, and make snake shapes?
because that defienlty looks similar but his rings seem much less controlled then the dolphins..his look more natural theres something strangley hypnotic about the way the dolphins do it

wow, totally amazing. also reminds me of those floating rings/smoke rings that have been seen in the sky.