Hebrew comes from Greek

I once had a discussion with a friend of mine who teaches the Classics about the Jewish people originating from Greece.

He is himself a Jewish person, though he describes himself as being "culturally Jewish" or as a "cultural Jew".
He is not religious.

And he told me that academics have argued about this idea for centuries, but that it was commonly dismissed as not being valid.

Well...

Take a look at some ideas that might show a linguistic basis for this theory.

"Linguist and researcher J. Yahuda, the author of "Hebrew is Greek," manages to prove with scientific accuracy that both Hebrew and Arabic are Greek in origin. This revelation broke a three thousand-year-old misconception. Having great knowledge of Hebrew, Arabic, French and English, as well as knowing the Old Testament and half the Koran by heart, Jahuda studied the translation of the Septuagint and Homer. He made a detailed comparison of these languages over the course of 30 years. He then published his book in 1982."

www.jordanmaxwell.com...

As a conspiracy theorist it is important to look at bias. Read this from the top of the page:

"An article by linguist Konstantinos Efstathios-Georganas, based on the groundbreaking book: Hebrew is Greek, by Joseph Yahuda, LL.B., whereby he seeks to prove that not only are Hebrew words Greek in origin, but that various symbols, internationally recognized as being Hebrew, are also Greek."

www.jordanmaxwell.com...

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[edit on 2010/7/28 by GradyPhilpott]

He's looking for evidence to support the theory, so in donning my tin foil hat I have to conclude that he is already a biased researcher.
Though isn't everyone to some extent?
This is some pretty weird stuff for anyone interested in this sort of thing.
It would mean the Jews came out of Greece and that people are wrong about history.

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It does not mean Jews came out of Greece or that the Hebrew language is derived from Greek. I would like to see some really good independent peer reviews on his work by other experts.

I believe it can show that the two languages had a common language ancestor that they both were derived from that is now lost to history.

[edit on 28-7-2010 by JohnPhoenix]

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
reply to post by dragonsmusic

 

It does not mean Jews came out of Greece or that the Hebrew language is derived from Greek. I would like to see some really good independent peer reviews on his work by other experts.

I believe it can show that the two languages had a common language ancestor that they both were derived from that is now lost to history.

[edit on 28-7-2010 by JohnPhoenix]

That they both derived from a common ancestry, I completely agree. I would say that it's Sanskrit. I have a book called Teach Yourself Sanskrit and in it is ample evidence that Sanskrit profoundly influenced ancient Greek.
It would be a case of Hebrew having arisen from or being completely influenced from ancient Greek.
And it would in fact mean that the Jewish people originated either in Greece or in very nearly surrounding areas of Greece. In order for the languages to be as close as this guy says they are then the two cultures, ancient Greeks, and ancient Hebrews, were geographical neighbors at the time that the Hebrew language was born.

Phoenix, you're no Jesus.

Nobody else has anything to say?

that's fascinating in a Spock like way

Hebrew definitely does not come from Greek, your friend has no clue whats he's talking about or he's just pulling stones.

Originally posted by Wise Man
Hebrew definitely does not come from Greek, your friend has no clue whats he's talking about or he's just pulling stones.

And you do wise man because... you say so?

I'm looking to find a web site that supported that claim. I'll post it when I do

Originally posted by Hellas
And you do wise man because... you say so?

I'm looking to find a web site that supported that claim. I'll post it when I do

Hebrew is the oldest language and the first language.

Any slight knowledge of ancient artifacts is enough to prove that.
All languages come out of Ancient Hebrew, from some point including English.

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Originally posted by Wise Man

Originally posted by Hellas
And you do wise man because... you say so?

I'm looking to find a web site that supported that claim. I'll post it when I do

Hebrew is the oldest language and the first language.

Any slight knowledge of ancient artifacts is enough to prove that.
All languages come out of Ancient Hebrew, from some point including English.

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That is just ridiculous.. But if that makes you happy, so be it

There is no English alphabet, it's called Latin alphabet.

It's commonly accepted that our Latin alphabet is derived from Ancient Latin which is derived from Ancient Greek which is derived from the Phoenician alphabet.
Phoenicia is actual Lebanon and bits of Israel and Syria.

Hebrew is derived from Phoenician through Aramaic.

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Here's the short history of the English language from the Wikipedia website.
en.wikipedia.org...
English is a West Germanic language that arose in the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms of England and spread into South-East Scotland under the influence of the Anglian medieval kingdom of Northumbria.

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All right ! Did I say something in contradiction to what's in the link ?

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No I just like replying to you post! :p
I do believe the Germanic language is related to Latin.

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It's misleading saying English alphabet, old english was not written with Latin alphabet. The similarities in the alphabets shown up there don't link English and Hebrew. Just to make sure.

Originally posted by Hellas


That is just ridiculous.. But if that makes you happy, so be it

Is that really funny?

You think Hebrew came from Greek... did you get your education from the back of a cereal box? You must be trolling.

Hebrew was kept through the line of Eber, Aramaic was kept from the line of Aram, and the Hebrew is older.

Your a few thousand years off from Cumae / Greek.

Hebrew Abaddon and Greek Apollyon
2nd

Originally posted by Wise Man

Originally posted by Hellas
And you do wise man because... you say so?

I'm looking to find a web site that supported that claim. I'll post it when I do

Hebrew is the oldest language and the first language.

Any slight knowledge of ancient artifacts is enough to prove that.
All languages come out of Ancient Hebrew, from some point including English.

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thank you kindly for my chuckle of the day. If you had bothered to do any research on your own you might have discovered that IndoEuropean is the likely precursor of not just Greek but Persian and Sanskrit as well. Hebrew, while ver old is just not as old as some.

Originally posted by Wise Man
Hebrew definitely does not come from Greek, your friend has no clue whats he's talking about or he's just pulling stones.

Wiseman, you obviously did not read the personal note within this thread. My friend does not support this idea. He is like most academics and thinks the idea is silly.

I am looking forward to reading this book which is mentioned on Mr Maxwell's site and then having a discussion with my friend about it. I might just get his head to spin.

What you mean is the guy in the book has no clue , more or less. Well, I don't think that's the case. Like I said I'm going to read this book and draw my own conclusions.

You did not offer any evidence in this post, though I see you did later on. I will address it accordingly. My last point is that all you've done in this post is to say I'm wrong and then throw out your own opinion as if it were a fact. You can't just be like, there's no way Greeks can be linked to the Hebrews!

Originally posted by Wise Man

Originally posted by Hellas
And you do wise man because... you say so?

I'm looking to find a web site that supported that claim. I'll post it when I do

Hebrew is the oldest language and the first language.

Any slight knowledge of ancient artifacts is enough to prove that.
All languages come out of Ancient Hebrew, from some point including English.

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Try starting at Sanskrit. It's older than Hebrew as well as ancient Greek. And the few similarities in the English letters and Hebrew letters have to do with the fact that there are traces and pieces of many languages coming together to make up the English language. And because, like another poster pointed out, it's using the Latin alphabet.
Common letter symbols between Latin and Hebrew is actually what you've shown here. And if anything it supports my own ideas more so than yours, because of Hebrew's connection to the Classic world. Peace.

I watched a documentary on The History Channel a while back. The historian was making the claim that the Iraelites were actually the Hyksos who were ejected from Egypt. He stated that some of these Hyksos went east to the area which later became Greece. If his assertations are true, it is possible that Hebrew and Greek had a same origin.