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Afghanistan questions U.S. silence over Pakistan's role

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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 06:29 AM
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Afghanistan questions U.S. silence over Pakistan's role


www.reuters.com

(Reuters) - The United States has pursued a contradictory policy with regard to the Afghan war by ignoring Pakistan's role in the insurgency, the Afghan government said on Tuesday, following the leak of U.S. military documents.
(visit the link for the full news article)



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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 06:29 AM
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Very interesting that Afghanistani government is pushing this.This could be serious, folks.

Could this be their way of asking...why were WE attacked and not Pakistan? Maybe.

Many of us have long known that Pakistan played a far greater role in the events of 9/11 than Afghanistan, yet look what happened to and in Afghanistan. Guess it pays to have nukes, eh?

Just another one of those geopolitical mysteries we have to live with.

www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

related ATS thread

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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 06:51 AM
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Wow really interesting video interview with a Pakistani ex-intelligence chief. He's calling this "a pack of lies" when they wanted to attack Iraq.

This mentions a LOT...it's heating up folks...large. People are getting pissed off.



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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 06:59 AM
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And meantime, our idiot Congress is clueless as always...

Big war boost clears Congress, despite Afghan leak

What the hell is this?


WASHINGTON — The House on Tuesday sent President Barack Obama a major war-funding increase of $33 billion to pay for his troop surge in Afghanistan, unmoved by the leaking of classified documents that portray a military effort struggling between 2004 and 2009 against a strengthening insurgency.

The House voted, 308-114, to approve the spending boost for the additional 30,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan. Other non-war provisions brought the total bill to nearly $59 billion.

From Obama on down, the disclosure of the documents was condemned by administration officials and military leaders on Tuesday, but the material failed to stir new anti-war sentiment. The bad news for the White House: A pervasive weariness with the war was still there — and possibly growing.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 07:13 AM
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Yet look how Bloomberg reports this...just an hour ago.


The U.S. and Pakistan have dismissed portions of the documents that indicate the American military suspects Pakistan’s main intelligence agency of secretly aiding the Taliban and other Islamic extremists battling the U.S. in Afghanistan. Source


Dismiss? Right. Makes perfect sense to me that Bloomberg would cover things up, considering their bias.



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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 07:33 AM
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This could be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Or put another way, the end of US imperialism, both economic and military.

I'm also fed up of my own government tagging along like a poodle against the wishes of the people.

In my view, both the US and UK brought terror attacks on themselves, because of their policies of aggressive intervention, meddling, and using puppet governments at the expense of the populace of the target countries and pursuing economic vendetta in some cases.

In the "modern" era, this goes back to the period after the 1st world war, when certain western powers carved up the ME into "spheres of influence" that could be exploited for their resources.

It has continued in one form or another up to the present day, and is the reason why both countries are so hated by many in the region, and why they fight back with the only weapons they can use without getting their countries turned into glass.

In other words - if we kept our noses and armies out of other peoples business and countries, there wouldn't be any "terror" threat.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 07:34 AM
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Report: Afghan leaks dangerously expose informants' identities


'Someone could get killed in the next few days,' ex-intelligence officer tells paper

The leaking of 90,000 U.S. intelligence documents has put hundreds of Afghan lives at risk because the files identify informants working with NATO forces, The Times of London reported on Wednesday.

In just two hours of searching the WikiLeaks archive, reporters found the names, villages, and fathers' names of dozens of Afghans credited with providing intelligence to U.S. forces, the paper said.


Another reason of grave concern. Bet they'll think twice about helping us again. The Afghani insurgency is going to go ballistic.



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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 07:45 AM
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Well yes. The Afghani goverment questioning Pakistani involvement is pretty damn huge. The beginning of the real blowback.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 07:54 AM
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Hmm...wonder how this will do in the Senate.

US House defeats resolution for removal of US troops from Pak

But hey, they had the first-ever Wikileaks debate over it!

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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 07:57 AM
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The US has lost the moral high ground a long time ago . Even those that can't come to grips with the false flag aspects of the situation and who still believe a couple of cave dwellers beat a bazzillion dollar security apparatus, are now at least holding the US responsible for creating the situation.

At some point history will repeat it self as it has before.
Probably with a world war.
Guess who gets to play the bad guys.

To bad the instigaters will be yukking it up from the sidelines while laughing all the way to the bank.

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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 08:02 AM
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This is what happens when you play politics with Pakistan and the ISI:

news.yahoo.com...

Breaking news, Americans on board.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 08:04 AM
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Yep...I have a thread about it here. Two Americans on board...one from U.S. Embassy. Wonder who else was on board.

And all this while some boat explodes near the Strait of Hormuz, which the neocon/zionist shill papers are hyping up. Interesting times.

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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 08:30 AM
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Another story, this time from the CSM. Interesting headline.

WikiLeaks fallout: US, UK, India criticize Pakistan as terror haven



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 08:30 AM
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India's mad at Pakistan now too. This is gonna blow...



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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 09:28 AM
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I guess I'm the only one worried about this. Fair enough.

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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 09:48 AM
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Guess America wants to prolong the insurgency. No Taliban means no reason to stay in Afghanistan which has more than 3 trillion dollars of value of resources.

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posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
India's mad at Pakistan now too. This is gonna blow...



Well, water is wet, the Pope is a catholic and India is mad at Pakistan... The cold war between India and Pakistan is the main reason, why the ISI meddles in Afghanistan. The only surprising development in this relationship, was the South Waziristan Campaign, that started on 17th of october 2009, after which a real wave of Taliban terrorist attacks started in Pakistan. Which gives some indications, that ISI and Taliban really broke up their friendly relationship. And its just about at the time, when the Wikileaks report ends.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 10:33 AM
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Yeah...this is so true. However, India is generally far more controlled in their reactions. In my experience anyway.

The bigger story here is the Afghanistan element...the government of Afghanistan that we installed is a bit miffed. Afghani's lives are in danger. The insurgency is going to rise. This is not good on too many levels.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 10:43 AM
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Perhaps the coalition war chiefs have a different idea for an Afghan government to that of Hamid Karzai. Pakistan will be integral in keeping peace in Afghanistan long after the west leaves. Just the same as when Russia ended its campaign and the CIA pulled its Afghan funding and support.

Remember the recent media articles suggesting it is time to talk to the Taliban? Well, it just could be that the Taliban will form part of a new government and Pakistan will want to be on friendly terms with it. I don't see Karzai being interested in a power-sharing arrangement and his presidency is often seen as a sham, but necessary for the coalition to wage its war.

It must also be noted that we never went to war with the Taliban.



posted on Jul, 28 2010 @ 10:46 AM
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