Calling all code breakers - New CC clearly featuring language characters!

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CALLING ALL CODE BREAKERS!

Location: East Field, nr Alton Barnes, Wiltshire, UK.
Date: Reported 26th July.


* DISCLAIMER * THIS THREAD IS NOT A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CROP CIRCLE MAKERS.







Any ideas on the information shown in this design? In particular the characters in the arcs?

















There's clearly depictions of the vesica piscis, which may support the info.
en.wikipedia.org...


Also the 'web' in the center is intriguing; any ideas?


Cheers,

aenti


Source: www.cropcircleconnector.com...

Originally posted by aenti


* DISCLAIMER * THIS THREAD IS NOT A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CROP CIRCLE MAKERS.

Surely that is quite an important aspect of a discussion about language used in a crop circle?

Hi,

Thats an interesting design. I would say the central web represents some sort of star constellation and the writing around the outside I believe could be binary, similar to the Arecibo message:

en.wikipedia.org...

Have a look at the picture on it and I think you will agree it looks fairly similar?
Unfortunately I cant write binary, so I wont be able to translate it for you.

Pryde

[edit on 27-7-2010 by Pryde87]

reply to post by aenti

Could you upload the image to abovetopsecret media. It'll be a lot easier to examine them if you do that.

The center does look like some sort of a star map. And it looks like hebrew alphabets in the inner rings.

Personally I don't think it looks very "binary".

It looks like an alphabet language to me, it looks a little like Hebrew, but looking at the Hebrew Alphabet, I'm not really convinced the characters match apart from a few.

en.wikipedia.org...

It could potentially be something totally made up (or alien if you prefer).

The pictures are unfortunately a little poor quality in the main, and it makes it very hard for me to separate where one symbol ends, and the next starts.

If a full picture can be got with as good quality as this picture is for a few symbols;

www.cropcircleconnector.com...

I think it would be much easier to work with.

Here is the base page on the website for this circle. Sometimes they update with more pictures, so it's worth keeping an eye in case better quality images come up.

www.cropcircleconnector.com...

Originally posted by aenti
* DISCLAIMER * THIS THREAD IS NOT A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CROP CIRCLE MAKERS.

I'm sorry but the creators of this circle must be discussed.

You see, back in March I shared a thread stating that some of the better designed crop circles will turn up in particular areas at a certain time.

And wouldn't you know it, Alton Barnes is one of those places.

And, unsurprisingly the time frame for these crop circles is pretty much now too.


www.abovetopsecret.com...





[edit on 27/7/10 by Chadwickus]

I may have found something that corresponds to the points inside the Vesica Pieces. Check this image out.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/12294ef79083.gif[/atsimg]

reply to post by sourdiesel


Well it's a wonderful geometric display, and I can see the general similarities in parts of the animation, but could you be a bit more specific, and elaborate a little?

Perhaps some still frame shots of exact correlation moments, and an exposition of where you got the animation, what it relates to, and why you feel it may be significant with relation to the crop circles.

It's an interesting idea that there may be some mathematical language at work here - perhaps we're a bit quick to say 'it looks like a star map'. It would make a great deal of sense if these circles (the non-hoaxed ones) included mathematical information as a means of communicating timely info. And who's to say - perhaps there's several layers of mathematical meaning.

A bit like the film 'Contact' - they had to adjust their pre-conceived notions of how a message would be presented (from 2D into 3D) in order to 'decipher' the message.

On a tenuously linked note - anyone else heard of the recent suggestion flying round the MSN sites etc saying that aliens might have been communicating via short burst radio (or whatever) messages - as in, text messages rather than an encyclopedia..?

reply to post by Chadwickus


If you were an entrepreneur with no involvement in CC making, let's say you think the CC are obviously man made but that people are credulous and that you could make a profit on them, where would you organise your tours, Tasmania or Wiltshire ?

There are CCs every year in those counties, it's no surprise where they appear, they are expected to appear.
You won't prove anything with this argument and you're not making a good use of logics. But it's a good body of evidence that something is odd. It's been strange for years but nobody was ever caught. No proof, no evidence, only presumptions. The discussion about why they appear in the same places goes on and on...


[edit on 27-7-2010 by Manouche]

reply to post by Frakkerface


Thanks for the reply Frakkerface.

It surely is an important aspect but I wouldn't like it to detract from the OP.
There are other threads, like the one Chadwickus has already posted, that discuss the authors of the CC's and can be utilised for this.

Obviously who the author is does put a message in context and add a layer of meaning and understanding. However I've noticed this type of discussion can detract from the point of a thread and wander into back and forth arguments about 'aliens vs. man made', which IMO is rather tiresome and uninteresting because either way I would still like to know what the message is. Again, see reply by Chadwickus.

If the characters are de-coded and the information relates to the artist
then I'm sure the discussion will flow accordingly but until that point
I don't think speculation on the authors will help decode the message.
Obviously if you have any ideas to the contrary I'd love to hear them.

Cheers,

aenti

reply to post by Pryde87


Thanks for the reply Pryde87.

My first thoughts were also that the 'web' may depict a star system. 9 circles and 1 triangle (?) in the middle. 9 planets in our solar system may be relevant? But the connecting lines seem odd for orbits! Although it does look similar to an astrology chart.

Binary though I'm not so sure. The characters seem to have more than just a 0 or 1 dimension to them. For example the diagonal lines as well as vertical/horizontal. Although I appreciate your connection with the arecibo message.

Cheers,

aenti

reply to post by Jazzyguy


Thanks for the reply Jazzyguy.

I don't own the copyright so not sure if that is allowed. Do you know?

I too originally thought hebrew (very interesting language and origins, not to mention math construct!)

Cheers,

aenti

reply to post by harpsounds


Thanks for the reply harpsounds.

Agreed.

The CCC site also tends to upload diagrams that will solve the image quality problems. Although not done yet, when it is it will be on this page:

www.cropcircleconnector.com...

Cheers,

aenti

reply to post by Chadwickus


Thanks for the reply Chadwickus.

Looks like both our predictions came true. Mine being in the form of a disclaimer.

I appreciate your apology but if as you say, the creators of this CC must be discussed, then your thread you linked seems to be the perfect location, so thank you for providing a direction to where such discussion can take place.

Some of the better designed crop circles turn up in particular areas at certain times every year, not just this year of 2010. Your 'prediction' actually seems more like a well known simple observation.

In fact ALL CC's appear during the same months every year, hence the title: 'Crop Circle Season'. Although July and August are indeed renowned to be good months for CC's - this, again, is based on previous years examples. But is not a surprise, on the contrary, it is anticipated. I don't want to be patronising but its difficult to make a CC with no crop...

Similarly, the location of some good CC's in each season is also anticipated to be the South West of England. This is because... yes you've guessed it, they've been apearing there for years. Some theories suggest underwater reservoirs may be linked. A connection with ancient sites is another. And ley lines/energy grids is another. I'm sure the location of CC makers homes is also relevant. One more that you've pointed out is thats where the CC conferences are held, maybe so its a shorter walking distance... or did they decide to hold the conferences where the CC's are being made? Chicken and the egg? No.

Either way it seems innapropriate for you to advertise that conference in this thread. Unless they've really quickly added this CC to their list of topics to be discussed?

However, I am glad you have (or had - previous to edit) found out this particular formation was made by a man because I'm hoping this has a relevance to the de-coding of the characters. Are you saying its a man made language? Please elaborate.

Cheers,

aenti

reply to post by sourdiesel


Thanks for your reply sourdiesel.

Fantastic point! This seems highly relevant due to 2010's CC's largely being varying depictions of hypercubes!



How did you think of/find the image?

Cheers,

aenti

So why would earth based writting be appearing in crop circles if they were in fact created by aliens?
en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by zaiger


I can see a similarity - What do you think it says?

Whilst looking at this recent CC it reminded me of something I had seen before...

Maybe this could help.
The below picture is supposedly from a UFO for those who have not seen it before.

UFO

Are there similarities in the letters?

reply to post by zaiger


Thanks for the reply zaiger.

Ease of communication could be an answer but I don't think we can say comfortably at all that all, or this particular one, was indeed created by aliens. Or even what an alien is unless we take the literal 'being from another planet' but thats neither here nor there...

More interestingly is the wiki page on the Enochian language (thanks 007) I'll have to double up with druid1 - have you translated it or just noticed a strong similarity? Either way I think its great input, much appreciated.

Cheers,

aenti

reply to post by ottozia


Thanks for the reply ottozia.

I can see similarities. Although I was under the impression those images had been graphic creations? Obviously that doesn't make a difference here as they may well still have inspired this creation. However I'm wondering whether it would render them non-translatable?

Looks like Gerd Estrup from Germany agrees with you though, in a way, he posted this in the comments section for the CC:



Cheers,

aenti