Virginia UFO sighting, July 25, 2010 all 4 parts

I swear to you people I've figured out that this technology is and has been in human hands for some time.

Please see my posts in the "Alien Liasons" thread. A find that good shouldn't be left to rot.

Summary: CARET, David Sereda, crop circles. It's probably the closest thing to photography anybody is every going to get of ETI technology while it remains behind closed doors.

bp2.blogger.com...

www.youtube.com...

Draw your own deduction, feel free to read my posts if you want to.

[edit on 27-7-2010 by OZFZO]

reply to post by Airborne880


Agreed with you on the brightness of orbs not showing up on camera. The smallest orbs don't appear at all on camera but are visible to the naked eye. And yes, two things you say ring absolutely 100% true with me - the fact that others witnessed it besides yourself cements and makes the experience that much more profound, and secondly, yes, they are really quite small, whatever 'they' are...

Originally posted by Airborne880

Originally posted by Tearman
reply to post by aspx

 

Is there any reason to believe that test was accurate? I thought lie detector tests require a baseline, and the subject to be in a passive state (as opposed to excited about ufo encounters), and even then they are prone to failure.

You are correct. I dont know this dude but I do know that he has no lie detector. Not anything authentic at least.

Airborne880 - First and foremost, Thank You for serving!

Second, thanks for upping the vids and connecting with us. Welcome.

If "lie detectors" really worked they'd be admitted in court; and those are the expensive ones operated by individuals with training, not some hokey hunk of software.

My field is computers and programming, my degree is in comp sci, and I've looked into such software for where I am employed, the kind where the subject is a recorded voice and not an actual live person. My own experience testing various products is that more often than not they fail, sometimes with worse results than flipping a coin - heads truth, tails lie.

Please keep looking, and don't mind the tough crowd ; )

To those who think the video sounds scripted...
Many families routinely make home videos with narration. My son and his wife are big on "family videos so the granddaughter has them!". Apparently this family enjoys home movies. Did you check out their YouTube channel to see the rest of the home videos?

My guess is that they really saw these lights and really don't know what they are. I don't know what they are either but I'm not calling hoax. It doesn't smack of hoax. Lack of identification would be more my guess.

We need to separate two things.

The video can be real but it does not explain what it is.

It could be anything, will-o-the-wisp, military, the mafia in the forest at night burying someone(?), st elmo's fire, ball lightening, forest spirits(?), alien spaceships, kids with flashlights, previously unknown psychic telekinetic ability(?), a moonlight anomaly, etc.

It could be anything really.

I just think the video of it, is real. And the people who filmed it, really sound like they don't know what it is either.

I don't know what it is. It just looks realistic thats all. I can't see any signs of photo shopping.

I personally like the mafia at night in the forest theory. The people claim they had just shown up to the location recently, perhaps the mafia buried something or someone out there.

I don't know. Let's hope it's something else. The mafia in the forest at night theory is the scariest of all really.

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
First off Airborne , its good of you to provide input to this thread. I find the clips and explanation very interesting as I believe I expierienced something very similar.

Secondly, I notice you getting upset with some comments. If you don't like the comments my advice is just ignore them. You don't have to respond. Believe me there is plently of people in here that if they think your easily upset will gladly attack. Some very immature people.

Finally my own judgement on the films is probably not one you would like. I hope that if this is a genuine expierience for you and your family that you enjoy it. But I felt that this looked scripted. My intention is not to offend you but the all of the dialouge came across as scripted. Including the mistake with the zoom lense. Also you guys looked like you have been in front of cameras a lot. To me it looked like it took inspiration from the likes of the blair witch project and cloverfield.

Again don't take offence. I'm just giving my opinion , thats what we do here.

Best of luck.

Hello. My wife and I are reading the many comments and I want to respond to them all. That would be an all nighter. I am thinking of videotaping me addressing some of the details and concerns. About your thoughts.... Scripted... not by a long shot but I am happy that we at least don't look like babbling fools. We have been in front of the camera a lot. I video tape everything... shooting, camping, the kids growing up. I also have done more than a little stand up comedy and am a funny person by nature. The accidental zoom was just what it was. As I went to turn the camera back to Brent (my son) I realized that it was zoomed in. When reviewing the tape we all laughed at how it zoomed into my nose. It was a mistake. In fact... i am so non technical that it was only late last night that I discovered how to get video from my camera onto the computer! All of my other youtube videos were shot with my cell phone camera. Please go check them out and you will easily see. These sightings motivated me to mess around with the camera and figure it out. Now I have over two years of old video to sort through and to be honest... its fun.

Thanks for your comments and I am sorry if you think we acted this out. Of course as a youtube fan... I always planed on putting this out there if the video was good enough. But in the excitement of seeing these things.... I was not as composed as I hope to be if and when we see them again. Who knows? This is a big thing for us.... it seems many here agree and they appreciate the reality of it. Like others have said... I can't expect all to believe me just because i know that I am being honest. One of my biggest flaws is that I am sensitive and do want to be believed. Thats not realistic though and I will use this experience to learn to disregard the folks (not you) that not only disbelieve but are rude about it. Thanks again for watching.

Also you know how they were "thinking things" towards the lights? You know they were asking it to "do things"?

Well thats why I said a "previously unknown psychic-telekinetic ability"; because maybe the people themselves created the 'orbs of light' merely with the power of their minds?

There is really no way to know at this point. If this indeed is possible, than we could be watching a recording of people creating orbs of light purely by thinking them into existence.

That is why I say there are like hundreds of possible explanations here.

Me personally, I have seen lights in the forest at night before. Way off in the middle of nowhere. Scary as hell. The lights were NOT human-like at all, they were extremely powerful and acted really weird.

What did I see? NO CLUE
What are we seeing in this video? NO CLUE

This whole "lights in the forest at night" stuff can go anywhere seriously. I have thought about it a long long time since I saw it myself and I have to tell you, there is no way to know what it is.

And Hell NO I would NOT GO check it out up close! What if the Mafia theory is true? Id' get buried there too!!! You do NOT wanna go walking up there to find out LOL!

The only person who is a "liar" is the manufacture and distributor of the software...Man, please have some RESPECT for people on this site till they prove they don't deserve it. Just don't come right out and label a person a lair without knowing anything at all about them. Unless this is the type of person you are, and if so, well, we'll just leave it at that cause I don't know you.....and I want judge you.....Take Care ....

Originally posted by boondock-saint
I cannot vouch for the validity of the UFO
but the witness videos lead me to believe
they are lying when he said they saw it
5 nights in a row in another location and
didn't try to film any of it ??? come-on ???
ur joking right???

Yes don't you love that.

Night 1: wow look!
Night 2: OMG!
Night 3: Can you believe that!
Night 4: I wonder if I should tell someone...
Night 5: BBOORRIINNGG

reply to post by Airborne880


Since this is as good a place as any, I will share my story (short version) with you and everyone here because it falls along the same topic.

Several years ago my wife and I lived on a farmhouse out in the middle of nowhere, and there were large fields around us, and behind the house there was a really large hill with tons of forest on it. The field went about 200 meters then it turned into dense forest.

Anyways, one night I was playing a video game or something, and my wife came in and said "I think someones in our field with a flash light in the back", and keep in mind this was like 1 am.

So I checked the windows, and there was light out there, so I cut the hallway lights to mask myself and give better outside visibility. I then saw much more clearly what this "light" was.

It was a super powerful-bright light off in the woods up on top of that hill. It was inside the woods. The light would get blocked out by the trees and you could see all the shadows.

The light was ultra-powerful I must say, as I remembered it was a focused beam similar to a spotlight.

BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN THAT FOREST!!!

This light acted really really "ODD". It moved around a lot, and sort of fast at times, then it would slow down. It never went above the tree line, it stayed inside the trees the whole time.

It would move back and forth, up and down, in a funny and bizarre way. The light went from bright to dim, over and over again, as if it were losing power than regaining power. The side to side up down movements of the light itself also gave a power up power down appearance.

This caused my wife and I to joking say "are we watching a malfunctioning UFO in that forest up there? Is it trying to fix the problem and is using that forest as cover to hide itself?"

This went on for a few hours *VERY LONG TIME* so long in fact, that I fell asleep sitting there watching it.

The next day I saw the landowner farmer guy, and went up to him to ask him about it. I didn't want to sound crazy so I kind of masked my intentions.

I asked him "does anyone ever go up there in the middle of the night?" He said "No there's no roads up there."

I said "I saw some lights up there last night for hours, maybe some kids were partying and throwing beer cans all over your property, you better go check it out."

I wanted him to go have a look, so he agreed and went to go see. He found nothing. No tire tracks, no beer cans, nothing. It was like nothing happened.

So you tell me what the heck my wife and I saw that night. It could have been anything.

I still have feelings about it though. And it did feel alien. That doesn't mean it was. It just means it freaked me out that bad.

And I refused to go up to have a first hand look, that is insane. I was in the middle of no where and had no gun. I wouldn't dare go up there like that.

Lights in the sky just don't prove anything. They don't show structure that you can clearly identify as some kind of man made or extraterrestrial vehicle. To the people who witnessed this sighting, I'm sure it was an exciting personal experience, but personally lights in the sky just don't interest me anymore.

Originally posted by WeRpeons
Lights in the sky just don't prove anything.

They do sometimes.

I can point out a meteorite really easy. Or a satellite/ISS.

Also, lights will tell you quickly if what you see is a commercial airliner or military jet.

The way a light moves, blinks, colors, it's position in the sky, etc, tell us a lot. I can tell if I am looking at Mars, Venus, Jupiter, etc.

It's when none of these explanations fit anymore, that things become bizarre.

Originally posted by romanmel
reply to post by wesufmcosmic

 

You said, "...there is a army of really skeptical people just waiting to come up with a logical explanation for everything "

What would you prefer? An Army of really gullable people ready to accept anything thrown at them? I was born just before the Roswell, NM incident in 1947 and am still awaiting some type of proof of extraterestrial visitation.

I think the point is that Airborne was INVITED here by a member of ATS to discuss the video, and up till this page, it appeared as though most people were going to be civil towards him. Now, the rubberneckers jump on the thread and start with the funnies and attacks.

Kinda sad really.

He's shown no signs of deceit in my mind, nothing so far has not met up to the expectations asked of him, but now it's all about lie detector software and acting ability, and not the video or giving the time for any future videos.

It's not as if the guy came here saying he was contacted by commander general zarlock of the galactic federation of light and has a message for us that he can only reveal to us in 8 days, as long as it's a Tuesday and raining in Brazil.

Some people might consider being invited into a forum to discuss something they posted elsewhere, and then being ridiculed for it, pretty rude, and I'd expect them to get a bad taste in their mouth about ATS from it.

HEy brother! I absolutely can tell from my own discernment you did see what you say and THANK YOU very much for sharing they are beautiful!!!!! I absolutely could see how people wouldnt believe but I have seen things like this and this video brought RIGHT back there just the tone of your voices triggered a flashback for me! THANKS SOO MUCH Cheers! If you can give us some tips on how what you did to make these appear and please if you can IGNORE the non believers and keep doing this more and more I would like you to upload more if you could Dont ever stop trying! You might have an encounter S&F

Hello all. I am to new here to be allowed to post a new thread but was wondering if A video of me addressing some questions and concerns would be helpful. Let me know what you think and if it would help... I can give a more detailed description of what happened and better explain some things that folks are understandingly concerned about. I want o reply to all of the posts but am not a fast computer writer and its exhausting hahah. Thanks again.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Also you know how they were "thinking things" towards the lights? You know they were asking it to "do things"?

Well thats why I said a "previously unknown psychic-telekinetic ability"; because maybe the people themselves created the 'orbs of light' merely with the power of their minds?

There is really no way to know at this point. If this indeed is possible, than we could be watching a recording of people creating orbs of light purely by thinking them into existence.

That is why I say there are like hundreds of possible explanations here.

Me personally, I have seen lights in the forest at night before. Way off in the middle of nowhere. Scary as hell. The lights were NOT human-like at all, they were extremely powerful and acted really weird.

What did I see? NO CLUE
What are we seeing in this video? NO CLUE

This whole "lights in the forest at night" stuff can go anywhere seriously. I have thought about it a long long time since I saw it myself and I have to tell you, there is no way to know what it is.

And Hell NO I would NOT GO check it out up close! What if the Mafia theory is true? Id' get buried there too!!! You do NOT wanna go walking up there to find out LOL!

The lights I saw, and let me tell you, there were nine of them about 65 degrees above the horizon east of my car when they passed by me at a height of 100 ft, they slowed right down for about 4-5 seconds, then sped off again in the direction they were travelling. Like the gentleman who has kindly shared his experience in Virginia with us says, the fact it was a shared experience makes it all the more profound because it is only then you realise that you didn't just imagine what you saw.

I like your theory about latent but very powerful psychic ability creating these things in some sort of psychic manifestation but I have to say this... the ones I have seen acted intelligently, and what I mean by that is, they flew as though under intelligent control - slowing, speeding up and changing direction. You know when you see a flock of birds flying in formation that it's intelligent airborne creatures, right? Same with the way these move... when you see them, you just KNOW!!!

Originally posted by Airborne880
I want o reply to all of the posts but am not a fast computer writer and its exhausting hahah. Thanks again.

If someone is calling you names or provoking you, just ignore them. It will happen so just remember to ignore them.

Thanks for coming and being willing to answer questions. It's rare we get that kind of authenticity around here.

Originally posted by Phage
"Oh, I've gotta charge this up. I'm out of juice."

Um. When your battery goes dead you don't get audio or video.

You know what he meant, Phage. He meant it in the same context as if I were on a cellphone and the battery-light started to blink. The thing is still working, but it's almost dead. It was an exaggeration.

Originally posted by RamsOnTop
It sounds like bad acting to me. The guy filming just gives the impression of trying too hard and does not seem sincere to me.

Are you a Derby County fan?

What the hell do you know?

So between all you guys no one had a phone that takes pictures? I mean really, if this little orb was just sitting there I find it hard to believe no pictures were taken.

I would have walked up and grabbed it in my hands. If it felt you were a threat it would have flown away.