The Mysteries of the Universe

Wow. Amazing thread!

I loved how you sneaked in Spencer Wells...I just have to finish the 13 segments

I thoroughly agree with the "recycling" section. Earth afterall, are the remains of a supernova. I must say, the "Realm of the Bleed Through" has intrugied me and I do believe the same with your view of evolution! It is change and I didn't know about the Archaea.

I remember reading this in NewScientist...thought it may interest the board:

Every Black Hole Contains Another Universe

Once again, thank you for the spectacular read.

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well done dude star and flagged. magnificent collection of ideas and philosophies. cant wait to digest them and expand my understanding of reality. thanks.

I`m glad your back my friend at work but am going to try to cover most of this post when I get home this evening. I hope you are feeling better and hats on on what looks like one of the best threads I have seen on the internet full stop.

The OP is right on track. To say it in more simplistic terms.

ALL is ONE.

Incredible collection of information...Thank you for putting it in laymans terms...easier to understand, but even if you didnt do it that way I still understood and related to your theories. We are connected as one energy...The sooner we realize this the sooner we can move on...The small shyt doesnt matter...its all small shyt.

Beautiful work my friend, absolutely beautiful! My faith gets restored in the ATS community whenever someone posts a well thought out, articulate and researched thread here. I just wish it happened more often!
I skimmed through your post first time through, and compared it to my beliefs of monotheism, and it feels like much of what you theorize could very well be in harmony! I will go back and dissect your work and post my complete thoughts then.

Thanks again! S&F!

as for an image of what your dimensions or "parallell realitys would look like ,well the whole might look like this ,some of you might understand this some of you wont but in essance our percieved reality "dimension"would be one of those smaller circles the big ones are the seven heavens but there is a play on the hydrogen/oxygen atom evolution process to now it is right what was said about one dimension being fractured and that is ours
www.cropcirclewisdom.co.uk...

Wow, I am pleasantly surprised by how many people have viewed this thread and are enjoying it! I am glad that you all decided to stop by and comment on this magnificent journey. To all of you, I appreciate the kind words Now for some questions:

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It looks to me like you want a reality that is both 'alternate reality' centered and 'consciousness' centered.

Very interesting points; however, universal 'consciousness' is real. The problem arose when the dimension fell apart and it essentially ripped apart 'consciousness'. We are all alive in the alternative realities, we all have 'consciousness', but it is not our true whole 'consciousness' that was ripped apart long ago. We, as well as the dimension is seeking to reunite with our whole 'consciousness'. Excellent questions and comments! I like them my friend

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Everyone, I am pleased that you all learned something about things you have not known about before. I also tried to make it as simple as possible to understand and I am glad that my efforts have paid off. Keep the questions coming and keep the comments rolling!

I don't want to bring religiin is this topic, but the concept heaven is obvious here. If particlrs are being recycled to fix themselves and each reality is doing this, then the further along the road there exists a reality where all particles are ordered perfectly. The lowered ordered realities could be seen as hell. Nice thread though. I bet this will be the religion of a future, technology based society.

And the question about mythical beasts: I think that most of them are symbolical and arent real.

Great thread! Glad to see it focuses on important things rather than the usual NWO filler.

Also, I have a feeling tgat the world won't end ever. I think that the Earth is going to keep recycling things too, at least until the sun burns out. Some our souls trnascend and others won't and just stay here for more "fixing". My two cents.

Excellent thread S&F.

The thing that i ask myself is where does it all start? Is there a beginning to all this on a multi universe scale. Is it human nature to have a absolute beginning to everything.

Where did God come from?

From a youtube movie that i can't remember the name of someone suggests a simply endless universe, no start and no end. Endless recycling?

Something just cannot exist out of nothing right?

You may be right about the viruses but sex isn't just to combat viruses its also a mechonism to cope with changing envirnmental factors,not just DNA the dinosaurs wouldn't be able to breathe today

Also I think there is another form of energy, life energy.

Energy can not be created nore destroyed so we came from somewhere

There is some force which says smashing certain molecules together results in life otherwise they would still be just some random melecules thst stuck together,why does this result in life?

"MYSTERIES OF THE UNIVERSE"

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I read somewhere, I thought it was a relatively obscure paper at the time, that there are multiple iterations of the unvierse. It started at a singular point, then the big bang, then expanded until it reached the end of it's ability to expand and the rapidly contracted back to a singular point. Then another big bang. And this has been happening for an eternity. Interesting theory.

But being as the Universe is expanding it eventually has to stop. And what happens when it does.

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Well, that sure is an interesting theory, TheMythLives.

I'm not sure I can say I necessarily agree with it but that's just because I see things differently.

Personally, I've always believed "The Big Bang" and "Creation", from the Bible, as one and the same, however what is told to us is a lie through separation.

Meaning, Government through science, wants us to believe one thing.

And the Church, take your pick, wants us to believe another thing entirely.

Divide and Conquer, my friend, divide people against themselves, and leadership can control the people, through control mechanisms, set into place.

Man wrote the Bible, it was physically written by men, men have agendas.

God however does not.

And man came up with the concept of time, the clock, calendars, and naming seasons.

Even if it might have been inspired by God or even "God", if you believe in that.

Who are we as mankind to force God to our concept of time itself?

What if one of God's days, you know, the 1st day, 2nd day, etc, is a million years?

To man, one day is 24 hours, but possibly God, being an Omniscient being, it is longer?

Who truly knows?

Not I.

I am alive and trust in my ability to survive.

Whether there is a hereafter is yet to be seen.

So, until I see that, I will live how I see fit to best live a fruitful life.

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Interesting thread.... Congratulations... A star for your efforts.

The first part of your OP...

The Big Bang Model is a broadly accepted theory for the origin and evolution of our universe. It postulates that 12 to 14 billion years ago, the portion of the universe we can see today was only a few millimeters across. It has since expanded from this hot dense state into the vast and much cooler cosmos we currently inhabit. We can see remnants of this hot dense matter as the now very cold cosmic microwave background radiation which still pervades the universe and is visible to microwave detectors as a uniform glow across the entire sky.

What are your thoughts on where is the universe or where did the "big Bang" take place.

Do you have any suggestions as to were the Universe actually exists.

I know many will say, "here" but where is “here” actually, in the All of things.

Does anyone actually know where we are or where this universe is ???

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What source told you that our dimension collapsed? Also are you saying that we are moving towards the collapse or that we will leave this dimension so that it can repair/start it's process over again? What causes a dimension to collpse? did ancient us do it?

Originally posted by Dotted
Excellent thread S&F.

The thing that i ask myself is where does it all start? Is there a beginning to all this on a multi universe scale. Is it human nature to have a absolute beginning to everything.

Where did God come from?

From a youtube movie that i can't remember the name of someone suggests a simply endless universe, no start and no end. Endless recycling?

Something just cannot exist out of nothing right?

Of course it can, it's just very hard for us to imagine how something can simply be...no beginning or end, nothing created it, goes against the pattern that we see all around us of beginning and end, our brain loves patterns. Oh and great thread, still watching videos...from what i have read though it seems to have a slight new agey vibe. Anyway i will get back after watching and reading.

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But "Nothing" is "Something" or there wouldn't be such a word in Language.

Not as easy a subject as first thought by many in fact a brain teaser...

The "Nothing" is just one "Component" of the Paradox.

All things exist in pairs and in this Case the Paradox is "Something/Nothing".

The Component called "Nothing" is perhaps the strangest and least understood of all.

Nothing is Something..... which is Nothing.. If you can see what I am getting at ???

So if Nothing existed in the beginning then Something did exist which is Nothing.

If Nothing existed or does exist today it had to be or is somewhere, so if Nothing is Somewhere it must be "Something".

Often we say for example there is "Nothing" in there.
(where is the "Nothing" in this case ??? IN there!)

Or there is "Nothing" there.
(where is the "Nothing" in this case ??? there!)

Or there is "Nothing" Out there.
(where is the "Nothing" in this case ??? Out there!)

So this is why I say The Subject involving "Nothing" is the Strangest of all and the least understood subject of all to the human species.

All right folks! Have a lot of questions that I need to run through. So if I do not answer your question in depth enough let me know or if you do not understand, let me know what you need explained further.


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The thing that i ask myself is where does it all start? Is there a beginning to all this on a multi universe scale. Is it human nature to have a absolute beginning to everything.

Where did God come from?

From a youtube movie that i can't remember the name of someone suggests a simply endless universe, no start and no end. Endless recycling?

Something just cannot exist out of nothing right?

In my theory, the start of everything is not pondered upon. Because I have no idea. However, the beginning of the multi-verse is because the dimension collapses and when it tried to reorganize itself correctly it basically goofed up. Alternate realities are errors and the rest is explained in the thread. About how the alternate realities are trying to re-organize themselves into the completed puzzle.

Where did God come from? That is a loaded question, because what is God? Is he energy? Possibly so. But he would reside in the parent dimensions where order destroys chaos every time.

Can something exist out of nothing? No, we are all recycled material from the previous "completed" universe. And we are continuously working toward the reunification of our true selves and the true universe.


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What are your thoughts on where is the universe or where did the "big Bang" take place.

Do you have any suggestions as to were the Universe actually exists.

I know many will say, "here" but where is “here” actually, in the All of things.

Does anyone actually know where we are or where this universe is ???

Well the first part explained that the big bang was the result of the dimension re-stabilizing itself and creating a copy of the previous 'universe'. Where did it take place? No clue. Somewhere in the universe.

The true universe does not actually 'exist' yet, because it is in fragments, hence the alternate realities. Once those are recombined with each other, the true universe will be together once again.

Again the universe does not exist, yet. Therefore, no one knows where it is at. We all occupy the same space as the alternative realities. We are all bleeding through and will eventually be reformed.


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What source told you that our dimension collapsed? Also are you saying that we are moving towards the collapse or that we will leave this dimension so that it can repair/start it's process over again? What causes a dimension to collpse? did ancient us do it?

No source, that is all my theory of everything. We are moving toward a reboot phase where all the alternate realities come together with each other and form the "true" reality. The true universe that was destroyed and fractured long ago. So in essence, no we will not collapse again, but be reformed. What causes a dimension to collapse? I have no idea, maybe an error or perhaps it was even us experimenting with things that we should not have. It is possible that we created a black hole in the previous complete universe that we ruined ourselves.


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Oh and great thread, still watching videos...from what i have read though it seems to have a slight new agey vibe. Anyway i will get back after watching and reading.

Awesome look forward to your thoughts!

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Thank you for sharing your thoughts...

Again the universe does not exist, yet. Therefore, no one knows where it is at. We all occupy the same space as the alternative realities. We are all bleeding through and will eventually be reformed.

Interesting thought....

Originally posted by TheMythLives
What causes a dimension to collapse? I have no idea, maybe an error or perhaps it was even us experimenting with things that we should not have. It is possible that we created a black hole in the previous complete universe that we ruined ourselves.

I can sleep at night by accepting the idea the universe is endless and filled with all kinds of stuff that collides and misses for all of eternity. The big bang would just be two 'really big' masses colliding and causing all kinds of reactions, in an unfathomable ocean of masses. No error, not planned, just the way things happen.