How this Crisis Will Play Out - 2010 and beyond

Originally posted by Division_Theory

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010 It's sad you choose to spend your time seeing where anything is wrong. I post to warn people, not to gain fame, or anything else> i have nothing else to gain, but to give the voice of warning.

What is sad is that, though you claim to have this vitally important warning to give us, you give us no reason to believe you or listen to you. Your errors and failed predictions are now as numerous as your successful ones. With that kind of a track record, your message cannot stand out above the noise of all the millions of other would-be seers and prophets.

If your mission and purpose was to warn us, and to use successful predictions as a flashing neon sign to get people to pay attention top what you are saying, sorry, but your sign is no longer flashing. It is growing darker by the day.

You have been saying that for over a month, since I was in GLP.

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

 

You keep asking for respect. Yet you insult people's intelligence by telling them you know the future.
I am showing you respect by telling you the truth about what I think about such "prescience". But I will not just nod and believe anything you tell me about the future. I respect myself too much to do that.

So you feel insulted by someone who said exactly what the problem is at the oil mess in the Gulf of Mexico at least 4 weeks before CNN, BP, and everybody else?

Try doing that! I doubt you would be able to.

It's easy to be disrespectful, but those who have wisdom know who to listen to.

reply to post by Wide Vision 2010


Like I have said, I didn't see anything by you until a few days ago. How can I know one way or the other what you said 3+ months ago?

The conflict that will start the war, will be unmistakeable between the end of June and beginnings of August, 2010.

Still going with the "no comment" sort of response to the lack of this happening?
I have asked about this many times now..............

[edit on 30/7/2010 by Chamberf=6]

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

 

The conflict that will start the war, will be unmistakeable between the end of June and beginnings of August, 2010.

Still going with the "no comment" sort of response to the lack of this happening?
I have asked about this many times now..............

The time is not up, yet. Boring!

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Well elsewhere you said the last days of July...so having one day left to be proven correct you say is boring. Downplaying it already?

Originally posted by nlouise

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010

Originally posted by nlouise
reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

 

A couple of us on the GLP forum were asking if the war that is coming could possibly be N. Korea because the censored media keeps trying to push the idea of N. Korea wanting to fight the US down everyones throats, lately. When I asked, I was just curious if TPTB were doing this in order to incite the coming war with the US.
Later you mentioned it would be Iran (which I believe is also mentioned in Book of Daniel) so I got my answer on that a while back in one of your posts.

Thanks again.

Yes. Touching up on that a bit, the incident on the straight of Hormuz is nothing more that a signal that war is about to start. Even though you see jews getting beaten by the Arabs, Israel will be saved by the armistice proposed by the liar. Once the armistice is signed, Tribulation starts. Watch for the stones, water problems, trees getting burned, people moving to and fro. Migration will be constant and to places people had never considered moving. Theere will be an exodus to the mountains and safer places away from the coasts. People will leave some cities. Hunger and illness will become prevalent.

Thank you for the update. The part about migration is sad. It reminds me so much of the movie 'They Live'. We can already see it here with all the tent cities going up. Victorville and Ontario are the closest ones to our area. Then we also have them in Sacremento and Fresno. Probably many more than that, just in our state alone. Los Angeles has always been saturated with homeless, but its popping up all over the place now.

[edit on 30-7-2010 by nlouise]

Migration will be a world-wide issue. Problems will arise in various parts. What type of problems? Financial, floods, droughts, pestilence, war, plus when the system of the liar is implemented, true Christians will be leaving it.

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

 

Well elsewhere you said the last days of July...so having one day left to be proven correct you say is boring. Downplaying it already?

You have been savoring your coffe before it's done.

[edit on 31-7-2010 by Wide Vision 2010]

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So now you are putting forth that America is Babylon and that not a single person will be left here. And nobody will ever live in America again. Ever.
ooookay............

But that would have to be way in the future so as to not contradict all your other "visions" about the future of the world and America.....and yet the Bible says something along the lines of, "No man can predict the time of Christ's return".

What if He returns too soon and messes up all your disjointed and convoluted dates and predictions??

[edit on 31/7/2010 by Chamberf=6]

Originally posted by oniongrass

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

 

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
It sounds like you think I spend my waking moments doing nothing but trying to disprove things. LOL Nope. It's just that I don't like to be treated as a fool, to be lied to, then called sad or misguided if I don't believe when some other human claims to know future events. What you call sad is me keeping my eyes open, and not hungrily devouring everything some narcissistic self proclaimed "prophet" tries to feed the desperate and gullible. To not believe you or that you can see the future has nothing to do with me "spending my time seeing where anything is wrong". It is simply me saying that what YOU say is BS, not anything else. Unless you think your predictions ARE everything.

Since from your questions it seems you didn't read this previous post of mine, there it is again.

Since the moderators won't seem to keep this stuff off the thread, I'll have to self moderate what I read here by putting you on ignore. You're going too much to the personal. I'm only interested in the "material" here, the predictions and discussions of how things are going and why. For what it's worth, if you get quoted a lot and seem to be saying more interesting things, I'll take you off ignore.

I agree with you. It seems fair.

I will put Chamberf=6 on ignore until he says something interesting.

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If he is actually making predictions himself, how could anyone think someone could be 100% accurate? That is not what predictions are about. No one could have that kind of accuracy, in fact I would be very concerned if he did. I would call him an insider. Alot of what he's talking about is whats in the wind and already occurring.

[edit on 31-7-2010 by Unity_99]

No place will be really safe unless God protects you. Jesus said that the tribulation period would be the worst in the entire history of mankind.

Therefore, there is no way out. Unless you're one of the chosen.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by Wide Vision 2010

 

War will be blamed for the dollar collapse, and it will be used for that purpose. Every country around the world will see food riots, and people doing unthinkable things to bring food home. Chaos will reign freely. Police and militaries will try to save order, bringing an unnumerable toll that nobody will keep a record of.

I'm very interested in your thread, and will continue to read. I feel very strongly that there is a plan, its akin to armeggedon, they have been destroying the land, food, soil and now oceans big time. A sea of blood with all the earth angels, our family, the whales and dolphins. Not only the huge leak but suddenly China, Canada, and now a Japanese tanker, all on clockwork, all now.

But I do have to add something, this situation may even take off somewhat, akin to the Anglo Saxon Project, or their global plans themselves, a variant.

It is not going to go the way they imagine. All those preparing will need to prepare for the here and now, and chaos can simply become:
1) eco villages and gypsy caravans, with time spent developing energy, harvesting and growing food, ridding ourselves of useless leaders and bankers, cooperation, and meditation and skywatching. And drawing our help. Because I see it strongly coming.
2)moneyless, trade and grass roots businesses, replacing all the goods and services and cooperation. learnign from the natives and heading towards the venus project.
3) awake and aware.

I think they're making a big mistake. And help is coming. If they play any hand at all, the door is open.




[edit on 30-7-2010 by Unity_99]

The time wil come to help oyhers or get helped. To kill or be killed by others. Everybody, in the face of an emergency will choose their side.

But one has to become aware that the time the liar and his system is pushed, will seem very Christian and loving ideals and one has to beware since the wolf will be dressed in sheep's clothing.

Originally posted by DutchBigBoy
You mentioned May 23rd of this year on GLP?
what happened on this day?

Meryl Streep,
Beatrix, Queen of the Netherlands,
Candice Bergen,
Chaz Bono,
Ethel Kennedy,
Prince,
Pope Benedict XVI,
Lee Radziwill, socialite, sister of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis,
William Shatner, actor,
Lech Walesa, Polish revolutionary/Solidarity leader,
Mel Gibson, actor/producer/director,
Princess Yasmin Khan, daughter of Price Aly Khan and Rita Hayworth, activist for Alzheimers cure,
Billie Jean King, tennis champion, entrepreneur,
US Federal Reserve

What has allready happened or what will happen with this people, can you elaborate?

The fall started in September-October 2008, the crash will be this year. The war will be the right time for it. They will create a war to mask the crash.

I think this will be the next thing to happen, after the revolution starts in Europe, do you know when?

War and the fall of the US Dollar will create havoc throughout the entire world. Markets will be empty. How commodities will be sold if they are priced in US Dollars? That will create instant revolutions when the markets are empty. The war is the marker to watch.

Other countries will follow on the steps of Greece. The whole world will tank. Spain, Portugal, Bulgaria, Ukraine, England and the US, and that will take the world along.

on GLP you mentioned this allready in may 2010
Terrorists threaten to turn Greece into war zone'Sect of revolutionaries' claim responsibility for shooting journalist Sokratis Giolias dead outside Athens home

I think this is happening now and spain will be next in line...


www.guardian.co.uk...

As time progresses, you will see more of the things I talk about, on TV, the internet, or being underreported on CNN.

The liar will be visible when the crash happens. His name comes to 666 using gematria. He comes from a lineaje that is arranged by him to come from David and from Jesus, and from Muhammad. I have said it all. Only if Jesus had off-spring he could have sangrial, royal blood, making Jesus a liar...

Two Jewish researchers, Joel Gallis and Dr. Robert Wolf, asserted with utter certainty in May 2007, long before Barack Hussein Obama had won his first primary and when it appeared that Hillary Clinton was a sure thing, that he would be the next president of the United States.

More recently, in August 2008, the scholars reported that Obama's name "intersects" with a passage in the apocalyptic book of Daniel, Chapter 7, and specifically Daniel 7:25, which speaks of the last "king" who would oppress God's people under the rubric of bringing about "change" to the world.

I personally don't think much of bible codes

The scholars, using the clues of the book of Daniel, say that Obama will rein as "King" for three and a half years. In their May broadcast, they ascribe special significance to the date of April 8, 2009, the day before the festival of Passover (Pesach), when the once-in-28-years "Blessing of the Sun" is to be recited. They believe that between now and that date there will be dramatic developments that involve Iran.

IMO Obama must the puppet working for the TPTB, TPTB who are the zionists (England)

complete article israelinsider.ning.com...

timetabel 5/10/2010: 3 months from now, there will be a partial solution, but the oil will not be able to be outted from that locarion. This is a total loss. only a long concrete plate will be able to stop the leaks.

The seafloor did collapse as you said earlier it would on GLP
The 3 months period is almost up, what is your vision on this now and when will we see the outcome?

There is a new stage which will open. Oil will see new frontiers, inland.

may 11: Keep your eyes open, because he will be ready by 2012, when the Olympics spell ZioN, or 2012 London.

You were corect in this

look at this threat
www.abovetopsecret.com...

England is the epicenter of power from the Rothschilds, the Zionist One World Government, the Zionist Queen who rules upon large parts of the world. Her family owns most international food corporations, and who rules food, rules the world.

The Royal Family of England has special powers that will be used, when necessary. Search for them and you will see. They are the real Power behind the scenes. They are TPTB.

www.asis.com...

The liar is not someone from england

Everybody in power conspires to bring the liar, but at the end, he will have his own power, and will destroy his supporters, even. The US, Britain and the Vatican will be hated by him, though they diligently work towards his rise to power.

IMO the liar could be the Prince of Wales, but the english do not hate him.

Excellent information. I already said who the liar is. Maitreya is the False Prophet. Who is the anti-Christ? I will get to that soon. With the naysayers, it's difficult to continue posting more information. However, I put the three on ignore and I will get back to posting info.

What causes most tremors is an angry Sun. And we will see more of that in the coming years.

Has this any link to the large sunspot which is now occuring?

When the stones get near the Sun, it will respond unlike anything we are accostumed to.

I am only allowed to speak 3 months ahead, about the subject, and one month has already passed. If you notice, I only speak of 3 months in advance, and I say things will change, and I stop at that.

But allow me to explain what's going on. There is a soft bottom in the area explored by BP. They didn't research the area thoroughly, and now the spill is creating less pressure in the deposits, so the soft ocean floor is caving in. As pressure drops, there will be more and more cracks, thus more oil and gas will be spilled.

But you also tell about things to happen in 2011 and 2012 and beyond.
Or is that something else what you extrapolate from the psalms?

Psalms can be prophetic, as well.

[edit on 30-7-2010 by DutchBigBoy]

There are several places where oil and gas are coming through the sea floor.


I will be surveying the whole area of the Horizon Deepwater oil well, to show you spots where oil and gas are coming from and how things will go. I will check for cracks.

So far,

1. there is one place 7.43 miles southeast from the original well, and oil and gas is being released through a mountain of ash. There is molten rock on the side, meaning there was a volcano.

2. There is fractures on the sea floor very near the oil well, therfore, it will be extremely difficult for BP or anyone else to stop the leak. 10 meters from the tube there are cracks on the floor. Can someone check that up for me? Is there someone who has great vision to confirm what I say here, please? This might take months to be confirmed.

[edit on 31-7-2010 by Wide Vision 2010]

Originally posted by Wide Vision 2010 I have never said anything about followers. Tell me where I said such an abominability.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

"I am fed up of GLP mistreatment, and that's the reason for my migrating to ATS. Let's hope they understand that and appreciate the following that is coming to post in this thread."

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Wide Vision 2010 : his list of errors

1. He predicted that a war or an attack that would start a war would occur between late June and late July.

2. He predicted that the BP oil well leak would not be stopped anytime this year, and it was stopped over two weeks ago.

3. He says that America is Babylon “because a lot of other people think so” (www.abovetopsecret.com... ).

4. On May 10th, he predicted that three months later, oil would “continue to pour out”, but in less than three months, the oil stopped pouring out.

5. On May 10th, he predicted that a “partial solution” would arrive in three months, but the partial solution arrived on July 15th when the capped the well, only two months after he said it would take three months.

6. He said that a 27 year war began on 2001, but said that it would end in 2018, only 17 years later.

7. He said that “The conflict that will start the war, will be unmistakeable between the end of June and beginnings of August, 2010,” but August arrives tomorrow and this “conflict” is not yet visible.

8. He stated that he never said anything about having "followers", yet at www.abovetopsecret.com... he said that he was expecting a "following that is coming to post in [his] thread."

omg... yet another dud thread i'm on the verge of giving u[p on this site, it's got a tonne of interesting reads but the biggest problem is only 20% of the users here are serious

the other 80% is wannabes and fakes and frauds!

and whats worst is everyone still replies to it follows it and believes in it..

thread after thread of utter bull# and lies...

#ing idiots

Originally posted by Unity_99

If he is actually making predictions himself, how could anyone think someone could be 100% accurate? That is not what predictions are about. No one could have that kind of accuracy, in fact I would be very concerned if he did. I would call him an insider. Alot of what he's talking about is whats in the wind and already occurring.

That so true. Most of this stuff is already started, already a trend. Its in the news. Israel is pushing so hard for war, all the different players in the mid east slowing picking sides, wikileaks.

The USA is falling to pieces, economically, border problems, wars, federal reserve, corrupt politicians, services, jobs, infrastructure.......

Even the glamor and fashion industry is keeping people's minds off the important issues going on, trying to make women think the latest pair of shoes or the whitest teeth are what matters.

The pressure in the Gulf of Mexico is still rising, methane still rising :
www.tampabay.com...
Yeah, the article is 10 days old now, but still.

The more people that wake up to the orchestration of Armageddon, the harder it will be for TPTB to get it done, in the time they have planned.