They Want the President Dead?

reply to post by peggy m


Great analysis and response.

I so agree with the part about this being exactly the kind of thing that will give them excuses to strip even more of our rights and freedoms...this kind of extreme talk. And it's why I said in the OP that this kind of talk is dangerous...to them and by extrapolation to us all.

When I shhh'd them that was exactly what was running through my head...you're trusting everyone here when you say these kinds of things...trusting that they agree and will not report you...THINK it but don't say it.

I remember some of the discussions about the situation with Obama when he was running and elected. About the extra security details...the extra vigilance. They're hyperaware there is no doubt that for him more than any president before him this is a real and present danger.

And as for the part about how much hatred built up against one man so very fast...there's a lot of value in that too. It's not been tempered at all. Whether he's the victim of the cumulative effect of the past three decades or the intersection of a few very bad situations exacerbated by the fact that he is black or whatever the reason is, it does seem that there is a disproportionate level of hate and discontent today, and even criticism and blame that started on virtually day one of his administration against all logic, when he couldn't possibly even have had the time yet to make a single difference. There's something inherently wrong there too. Things that are so very broken take time to fix.

(And oh, by the way, I didn't vote for either party either. I neither blindly support nor criticize anyone. And your grandma was a wise woman who stuck it out with you. Maybe he'll have the wisdom and the strength to stick it out too and we'll finally see some results that people can't argue with. Against all odds, it seems.)

reply to post by g146541

Uh huh. Sure could. It is best kept quiet among those you really trust, isn't it?

I mean there is no way I'm letting anyone know who these people are, should anyone ask, and if I even could. I don't know their names or where they live. I guess the only way anyone could get their names is to get them from the doctors. Highly unlikely but you never know.

I considered long and hard about posting this story at all, trust me. But I thought it was worth discussing because it says so much and conceptually covers so many things, many of which we've already touched on here.

reply to post by ~Lucidity

Obama was not my choice for president. The other choice was no better either.

I'm 63 and can tell you that older people loose some of there inhabititions and speek what's on their minds.

I can also tell you that if our president were to be assinated it would be very bad for our country as I'm sure you know. And you are in the heart of the south when you're in Atlanta. You could hear this same kind of talk all over the south. I'm about 5 hours south of Atlanta.

Don't fret too much over the old peoples comments. And since Ike was president I have heard the same talk about all our presidents.

By the way, I have some property in LaGrange and ride with a local motorcycle group when I visit there. I have and ride a 1971 HD Sportster.
It is slightly raked as I put a 1978 low rider front end on it.

I will be up that way after my arm heals from surgery I had last Thursday.

To all who don't know, LaGrange is about 50 miles southwest of Atlanta.

Back to the old folks......one of their favorite pastimes is shocking younger people with their actions. The problem is that I'm hearing younger people saying the same thing and it isn't for shock value. They fully believe it would be the way to get our country back. WRONG.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


I really understand your shock when you experienced this. I remember my shock when Bush was in office and people where in the streets with signs advocating his death. (Not to even mention the mock documentary of Bush's assassination.)
I found a small rundown of some of those photos here www.binscorner.com...

I think that if now people were in the streets holding signs stating death threats to President Obama with his effigy hang from a rope, the race card would be played very quickly. I personally feel it is wrong to make death threats to any of our elected officials, no matter race or political party. At this point I don't understand why it was OK to see death threats against a white republican and so shocking when it is a mixed race democrat. I often wonder is it shocking because of his mixed race, or because he is a democrat?

(As a note, I'm not accusing you Lucidity as being OK with any death threat. I'm just speaking to general reactions that I have seen this past year regarding people being upset with President Obama's current term)

After hearing, heck even getting a movie about it during the Bush years I really could care less. Now that the political control has switched poles [a play on words get it?] of course you will hear this kinda of talk out of people. I find Obama to be a crap magnet, but him dying would put us in worse straits. Can you say president Biden?

It is laughable to me in that when one looks at the source of this story,
we have the following attributes :

1. The South
2. Old People
3. Fox News

With Obama categorically heralding from the non white secondary citizen class as well as completely distorting their paradigm of superiority. The responses depicted here are spot on with their life long caste based southern societal programming.

[Cherokee Indians owned Black Slaves, research it for yourself.]

Remember it wasn't all that long ago, that when one had a problem with a "Negra" in the south, you simply drove to their home at night, dragged them out and lynched them !

But as I have said time and time again, this is exactly Obama's role which is to create fear in the hearts of those that subscribe to FEAR.

For with Obama as President or not, the Fear based agenda of the NWO marches on.

I think I trust the old folks. I think I would try to understand why they are so angry, if I didn't know already.
Some of you are really pathetic. Rather than understand why they are so angry, to the point of wanting someone dead, you assume the problem is in their head because they are not buying the fairy tale.
And you are.
The U.S. society truly does not value the old people, though there are many that do. We should take care of our family as they age, and we should LISTEN to them. Maybe you should ask WHY they feel that way. You might just learn something, instead of scoffing like they are all victims of some mass hallucination.

Originally posted by dizziedame
Back to the old folks......one of their favorite pastimes is shocking younger people with their actions. The problem is that I'm hearing younger people saying the same thing and it isn't for shock value. They fully believe it would be the way to get our country back. WRONG.

Yeah...I wondered if they were doing exactly that too...trying to shock us. Well they succeeded! And heck who can blame them. Thing is, as peggy m said, it's getting more dangerous to do that these days...particularly this kind of talk. I don't know what might have happened if the wrong person had heard this...I mean I can't imagine them hauling away people with IVs and walkers for questioning or detainment, but hell you never know.

I've not yet heard anyone else say anything like this out loud, though I do suspect some are thinking it. that would be even more concerning, you're right. Most of what I've heard before this is people expressing concern that it will happen.

[Cool ride. Hope you're up and at it again soon. Nothing like good pld wind therapy to clear the cobwebs. We get to LaGrange quite often on the way to Alabama...great fishing there. I don't a ride at the moment (every time a friend has an accident I sort of hesitate), but I will again soon ]

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reply to post by Stewie

I agree with you. There is a vast pool of wisdom there, which some posters here have touched on. They didn't really say why in this case, other than that he was "destroying the country" when I asked why. I didn't really sense they were in much of a mood for discussing it there in the doc's office waiting room. Seemed more like they just wanted to vent and bond and move on.

reply to post by nh_ee

Yep. I hesitated posting this for a lot of those reasons you listed. It's almost like you can't make this stuff up. But what I wrote is exactly how and where it happened, and it's why I asked if anyone in other areas of the country had experienced anything like this.



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These older people remember what America was. And what it stood for. They see what this country is being transformed into, and they don't like it. The younger generations don't get it for the most part.

reply to post by OneisOne

No. I remember the Bush stuff vividly, and it was equally as nuts to me. But this seems like a deeper layer of the same...at a different level of crazy somehow. It's come on a lot faster, with rumblings like this about assassination already in the mill when he was just running for president. No doubt that neither man has been very popular.

It makes me wonder about things like is race really an added factor or whether this is simply a sign of the culmination of years of frustration with the Bush era on top of what he is perceived to be doing or not doing that is making people get more vocal so much quicker than they did with Bush, relatively speaking.

For example, he didn't start the wars, which were a pretty big source of the hatred you mention toward Bush, he inherited them. He didn't destroy the Constitution. Bush did that with the Patriot Act and more, and yet people are hating on Obama as if he did it. Something's pretty wrong here. And I can't put my finger on exactly what it is.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


You are right, people did move against President Obama very quickly. I think it is because of 'perceived' campaign promises. I feel many people expected him to wrap up the wars in the middle-east, close Guantanamo Bay and fix the economy rather quickly. Especially considering he has a Democratic Congress to help those things along. My mother is a hard core Blue Dog-type Democrat that liked President Obama in the beginning, but now can not even stand to hear him speak. She feels betrayed by his promises of 'change' and 'yes we can', because the way she sees it he has done nothing of the sort. My sister is a more Liberal Democrat and has just started turning away from President Obama over the past 4-5 months. And to me that was shocking. They both see him as very inept as a president. My families observations, not mine. I never liked him, actually I didn't like any of the choses I had that election year.

reply to post by OneisOne

Yeah...they expected a lot. The let down was that much greater? I guess to those of us who expected...well...not much, the let down wasn't as great.

Well around here it is not the least bit uncommon to hear men and women in their later 50s + saying words like "coon" in casual conversation about politics. Seems to me there is something in those generations that kind of blinds them to the obvious bias the comes with even trying to say something nice and hinging it on some kind of racial slur. It is like even the complimentary statements are condescending to put it mildly. Then again, they come from a generation where killing dark people was pretty ok in this area.

To be fair, they never said any of those words, so it was impossible to tell for sure if racism was the case.

I cant even count how many black and white and hispanics that I have talked to that voted for Obama and now wished they hadnt. Most of them just got caught up in 1) the first black president, and 2) his rethoric of change from the last few regimes.

While I havent heard anyone threaten him with death, there are more than a few that support impeachment, which is what should be done with this man.

I cant wait until I am an old fart that can sit around a room and say whatever I want. I mean, whats the worst that can happen...death? heck, if you make it to 80 you are on borrowed time everyday anyway.


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Wait. Impeaching Obama puts the VP in charge. Dang, we are screwed with him or without him.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity Also, should things like this be reported? What would even happen if they were.
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Am I incorrect in assuming that 'Reporting ' these folks actually crossed your mind ? Thanks

reply to post by dazbog


No. It never crossed my mind to report them. I was, however, concerned that someone might. Hence my shhh'ing and saying it was "dangerous."

I touched on this in a couple of replies to other posters, about that part, and about my hesitation in posting this for that very reason too.

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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
To be fair, they never said any of those words, so it was impossible to tell for sure if racism was the case.

Don't get me wrong, I was not trying to say that you had implied that. I was just relating the casual nature in which people of that generation will talk in such demeaning ways of this president. It was one thing to hear someone outright call Bush stupid or something but I hear people relating Obama to a time when it would have been ok to deal with his "type" in a different manner than most.

I was just pointing out that generation is vocal in an odd way here too. Not as much killing talk but still, it is hard to tell that any of them understand that he is actually a human.