New fireball UFO -my video

I just filmed this orange glowing ball over our garden about 20 minutes ago. Again, as with the time I photographed about 7 of these objects in the sky, there was no sound, and the object flew in a straight line. (my vid does jump sometimes, sorry, I was trying to track the object over the houses).

The ones I photographed (look back over my posts to find it), also flew in a dead straight line, and all the lights went off at once, before they reached the town. Perhaps they didn't want to be seen?

I believe these objects are piloted as they always fly so straight, Chinese Lanterns (which these are often mistaken for and debunked for) would be buffeted by the wind, and move in a much more erratic way.

This one seemed to have a very clear flightpath, and it was almost like I could sense it was being directed, not just floating willy nilly in the air.

I also experienced what sounded like gunshots one night, followed by a loud rumble which suddenly stopped. There is another old thread about something simlar on ATS somewhere, which I replied to.

It would be interesting to hear from pilots who may have experienced these lights while flying, as they fly high enough to pose an issue to low flying aircraft & helicopters.

These are regularly sighted in my area, Mansfield, England.

Please forgive my commentry lol, and my Englishness

It isn't much, but in the light of more of these types of UFOs, I thought I'd do my bit.

Vid - www.youtube.com...




[edit on 24-7-2010 by The Chez]

Oh, come on man. Just because it flys straight, you think it isn't a chinese latern?

I sincerely hope this is a joke.
Just watch the video again. You can see the candle flickering inside. You'd think if it was aliens, they'd have perfected a smooth power source that DIDN'T make their lights flicker all the time.

Originally posted by RobCav
Oh, come on man. Just because it flys straight, you think it isn't a chinese latern?

I sincerely hope this is a joke.
Just watch the video again. You can see the candle flickering inside. You'd think if it was aliens, they'd have perfected a smooth power source that DIDN'T make their lights flicker all the time.

Why are you so quick to dismiss this? I've seen other videos of these stupid chinese lanterns, which fyi cost about £30 a piece, and the ones I've seen look nothing like them.

You imagine aliens to be totaly squeaky clean beings, what's to say their craft are not powered simlar to a rocket, which certainly would show up as a burning light in the sky during takeoff & landing.

I would not waste mine or anyone elses time posting jokes on ATS.

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Because you can see the light flickering inside the latern! Trust me. I was just watching some chinese laterns not 20 minutes ago, in the garden with some friends. They moved in exactly the same way as the one in your video does, and the light source flickered in exactly the same way as the one in your video does.

I'm not saying you'd waste your time, it just seems that you're adamant that this isn't a chinese latern.

I can garuntee you that there'll be more people who say the same as me.

Edit 2 (First edit didn't post). And £30 for a chinese latern? You must've been looking at chinese rocketships, not chinese laterns.

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[edit on 24/7/10 by RobCav]

Originally posted by RobCav
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Because you can see the light flickering inside the latern! Trust me. I was just watching some chinese laterns not 20 minutes ago, in the garden with some friends. They moved in exactly the same way as the one in your video does, and the light source flickered in exactly the same way as the one in your video does.

I'm not saying you'd waste your time, it just seems that you're adamant that this isn't a chinese latern.

I can garuntee you that there'll be more people who say the same as me.

There are also a lot of people on here who are begining to see other angles of these lights. Perhaps there are a handfull of UFO's that look like this, and TPTB are pushing the sale of lanterns to cover it up? After all these lanterns are pretty new, UFO lights are not! When you're trying to hide something, where better than in plain sight, with the added bonus of causing widespread doubt?

When the real alien lights appear, we'll all be 'oh it's a chinese lantern' and their secret will be safe.

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The Chez.....

Here you go!



Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
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The Chez.....

Here you go!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

THANK YOU! I've been awake over 24 hours, youtube linking was a little above my capabilities tonight lol.

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The Chez.....

THANK YOU! I've been awake over 24 hours, youtube linking was a little above my capabilities tonight lol.

You are very welcome!

I will have a look at your video in a few minutes & try to offer some measure of useful commentary.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

While zoomed in, the camera is out of focus, the shapes seen are possibly the result of the out of focus, blurring effect, probably not an accurate depiction of the unknown objects true form.

I personally witnessed a bright orange UFO right in front of my house at high noon under clear blue sunny skies, and it was easy to see that it was not a balloon, hot air or otherwise. The best way to discern whether an object in the sky is a strange unexplained UFO, or a balloon, is to examine its flight characteristics.

A real UFO moves in wildly unpredictable ways, with unbelievable, bursts of speed with similar changes in direction, the one I saw moved at speeds that, to this day, I cannot sufficiently describe. If an object tends to move with speeds and directions that would apply to a wind carried object, that is most likely what has been observed. The bright orange color is associated with true UFO sightings, but at night the Chinese Lantern Balloons look similar to many videos, including this one.

Bottom line, if it moves across the sky in a more or less straight path at a wind borne speed, it should be treated as an object of Earthbound origins. One additional thing to consider is that the wind direction changes with altitude, so a Chinese Lantern will be seen to change direction as it rises or descends. This is how hot air balloonists "steer" the craft.

Originally posted by The Chez
There are also a lot of people on here who are begining to see other angles of these lights. Perhaps there are a handfull of UFO's that look like this, and TPTB are pushing the sale of lanterns to cover it up? After all these lanterns are pretty new, UFO lights are not! When you're trying to hide something, where better than in plain sight, with the added bonus of causing widespread doubt?

When the real alien lights appear, we'll all be 'oh it's a chinese lantern' and their secret will be safe.

[edit on 24-7-2010 by The Chez]

These laterns have been used in China for thousands of years!
So the TPTB are forcing these laterns, particularly upon England, so that we don't see these 'new' UFO's?

I think you're trying to make something huge out of something very little.

If you truly believe that THIS footage, is footage from a UFO, then I urge you to search for more clips of people flying chinese laterns so you can compare.

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30 quid a piece? I don't know where you bought that lantern from mate but you need to ask for your money back. You can get them for next to nothing.

shop.ebay.co.uk...

EDIT: My link should give you an idea of just how easy and cheaply they are to buy, but also, it should give you an idea of how popular they are.



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The Chez.....

I am terribly sorry to always sound like a "downer" on here.....

However based on your video, your commentary therein & your posts, I cannot see anything that would exclude one of those ubiquitous chinese lanterns.

Unfortunately.....

- Colour

- Flickering

- Flight behaviour

- etc.....

..... all point in that direction.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by RobCav

Originally posted by The Chez
There are also a lot of people on here who are begining to see other angles of these lights. Perhaps there are a handfull of UFO's that look like this, and TPTB are pushing the sale of lanterns to cover it up? After all these lanterns are pretty new, UFO lights are not! When you're trying to hide something, where better than in plain sight, with the added bonus of causing widespread doubt?

When the real alien lights appear, we'll all be 'oh it's a chinese lantern' and their secret will be safe.

[edit on 24-7-2010 by The Chez]

These laterns have been used in China for thousands of years!
So the TPTB are forcing these laterns, particularly upon England, so that we don't see these 'new' UFO's?

I think you're trying to make something huge out of something very little.

If you truly believe that THIS footage, is footage from a UFO, then I urge you to search for more clips of people flying chinese laterns so you can compare.

While I agree this could be, and possibly is, a balloon, I am also very willing to believe in my theory that the lanterns are being used to cover up real UFO sightings.

They might have been used in CHINA for thousands of years, hence where TPTB got their idea for a cover up from. A bit like how Mugabe wants to take out the diamond market by flooding it with diamonds, if you fill the skies with UFO's, then the 10% of genuine sightings will simply be dismissed. No value, no intregue, no suspicion, an entire generation of people who will dismiss all lights in the sky as paper lanterns.

So yeah, I think we should still discuss these lights, balloons or not.

Also, the lack of warnings over flying these is concerning. In the UK, most things deemed fun alre also smothered in Health & Safety red tape, saying you need this & that licence to do whatever it is you're doing. I would have thought anything on fire, and flying would certainly have been singled out by the government for the same stringent regulation, or even a ban, but they are freely available with little such red tape. Why, because perhaps the government WANT and NEED lanterns in the sky?

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Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
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The Chez.....

I am terribly sorry to always sound like a "downer" on here.....

However based on your video, your commentary therein & your posts, I cannot see anything that would exclude one of those ubiquitous chinese lanterns.

Unfortunately.....

- Colour

- Flickering

- Flight behaviour

- etc.....

..... all point in that direction.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Yes, they do, and thanks for pointing that out without accusing me of staging this myself, I was out feeding my rabbit when I spotted it. I have no interest in buying, owning, flying or playing with silly paper lanterns lol, my interest lies in why there are so many of them all of a sudden. After all, the enjoyment anyone could draw from letting a paper balloon fly away is pretty short lived lol.

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I'm not ruling out the possibilties, but I feel your theory is just a bit far-fetched.

The thing is, I personally don't feel that a UFO would look like this. Why would the light flickering, colour, shape, etc. point so directly at UFO's. As I said before, if some race out there has perfected intergalactic travel, then why haven't they developed a smooth power source that stops lights flickering?

And why is the lack of warnings worrying?
Just because it's something which is on fire, doesn't mean it's dangerous, and should be ruled out. Why are we allowed to launch fireworks? If anything they're more dangerous.
Whilst the fire is lit inside the latern, it will continue to rise until it burns out. The materials they use to make them are also flame retardant.

If they were to reach the ground / a wooded area / housing area, they would be burnt out, and therefore wouldn't cause a fire.

Chinese laterns are a fad, simple as. I don't think that the government planted them here in order to cover something up.

Edit; And just to reply to the above post, I'm not accusing you of staging anything, I'm just a bit skeptical as to why you're so adamant this is a UFO. In your OP you didn't even seem to consider the fact that it could be a chinese latern.

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Originally posted by RobCav
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In your OP you didn't even seem to consider the fact that it could be a chinese latern.

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And you're not considering it might not be, quits

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Because your video is so insanely similar to many other 'sightings' which just turn out to be chinese laterns.
It's not that I don't want to believe, or consider, it's just I find it so hard to believe that this is something different, when it displays so many similar traits. Read the posts above this from other people, even they say it's most likely to be a lantern, and they're far more respected / well known ATSers than I am.

Edit; I also like how you seem to disregard the rest of my reply. Seems almost like you've been debunked.

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Hi Chez.

Just watched your vid..first thing, NEVER apologise for a British accent, or your regional accent!

You don't have a 'funny' voice either.

Thanks for posting, can't say what it is one way or the other, nobody on this site can.

It could be a craft from elsewhere, or it could be a candle in a paper balloon...i know, i know..you don't want to hear that..i understand, i really do.

(BTW, they flog the damned things in toy shops for a fiver!)

Thanks anyway.

Originally posted by RING0
A real UFO moves in wildly unpredictable ways, with unbelievable, bursts of speed with similar changes in direction, the one I saw moved at speeds that, to this day, I cannot sufficiently describe.

That's why videos are helpful, to record what people can't sufficiently describe. Since 1947, people have described incredible speeds, but the only video I've seen of such speeds are meteors. I don't know of a single video capturing such incredible speeds, and some of those radar reports turn out to be cases of malfunctioning radar, if it's not a meteor.

If an object tends to move with speeds and directions that would apply to a wind carried object, that is most likely what has been observed. The bright orange color is associated with true UFO sightings, but at night the Chinese Lantern Balloons look similar to many videos, including this one.

And, it does look like there's some flickering of the light, just as one might expect to see with a Chinese lantern.

And they cost a lot less than 30 quid!

Originally posted by RobCav
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Because your video is so insanely similar to many other 'sightings' which just turn out to be chinese laterns.
It's not that I don't want to believe, or consider, it's just I find it so hard to believe that this is something different, when it displays so many similar traits. Read the posts above this from other people, even they say it's most likely to be a lantern, and they're far more respected / well known ATSers than I am.

Edit; I also like how you seem to disregard the rest of my reply. Seems almost like you've been debunked.

[edit on 24/7/10 by RobCav]

I didn't disregard it at all, I read it through and was formulating a reply to the bits you mentioned about UFO behavour.

I agree with what you're saying on this, but do we really know what kind of craft our alien visitors might arrive in? Unless you've had the pleasure of asking them.