How can America be a Christian Nation and a Free Country at the same time?

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Patriotic God fearing Americans often tout that "America is the land of the free and the epitome of freedom" yet that it is also "a Christian nation" or at least based on Christian ethics and values.

Though there is debate over whether the Founding Fathers were Christians or Deists, America is still seen by many as being founded on Christian principles and ideals, which are ingrained in our culture, ethics and morals.

Yet the slightest cursory glance at the Bible and Christian faith reveals that it is inherently fascist in nature. The Bible teaches that if you do whatever you want or live your life however you want, you are living in sin and rebellion against God. Throughout the Bible, the message is that if you don't obey God and follow his commandments, you will be punished and damned. The Christian message is that freedom is evil, while obedience and giving your life and will to God is good. Likewise, in fascist Nazi Germany, anyone who didn't obey was shot or imprisoned. Dissension was not allowed. Fear of punishment was the motivator. Therefore, Christianity is essentially a "fascist religion".

Christianity and Fascism share the following core attributes:

a) Obey or be punished.
b) No independent thoughts. Must think with the hive.
c) No tolerance for dissension or free speech.
d) Your God or dictator is to be feared, for fear keeps you in line and protects authority.
e) The use of fear and guilt as psychological control mechanisms.
f) The view that the individual is weak and powerless, and his/her life is without purpose, unless aligned to serve a "higher power" (e.g. God, tyrant or dictator).

Now this isn't to say that Jesus himself was a fascist. Assuming he existed (which is not a proven fact), he could very well have been a well meaning person spreading a good spiritual message to help people. It's what the Church and elite power structure DID with his name and the religion around him that they established that turned Christianity into a fundamentalist religion and a fascist form of control over others.

So anyway, how can you believe in religious fascism and a "land of the free" at the same time?! How can you deem freedom as the highest value yet preach a religion where freedom is considered evil and obedience to God is the only good? How can you claim the right of free speech yet support a religion that doesn't allow dissension? You can't. It's a total contradiction. Yet they preach it nonetheless. It's another example of Orwellian "double think". Therefore, living with the ideals of freedom and fascism at the same time is a Catch-22.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. When you look deeper, the contradictions become even more numerous.

For example, how can you support the American value of individualism and at the same time the Christian belief that the individual is nothing unless he/she submits to the Christian God and obeys him? If you truly believed in individual free will, you cannot endorse the punishment of individuals who freely choose not to surrender to the "hive mentality" of the Christian Church. There's no way around it if you think about it. (but then again you are not meant to think about it, only to obey all that you are told)

Furthermore, as the Apostle Paul said in his Epistles (Romans 6), we are "slaves to sin" before accepting Christ. But once you accept Christ and start following God's commandments, you are "set free" from sin and become "slaves to righteousness" as Paul put it. In other words, when you are free, you are "slaves to sin", but when you submit your will to God and give up your freedom, then you are "set free from sin"! How can you be "set free" by submitting to fascism?! What could be more ridiculous than that?! Golly. The mind control here couldn't be more obvious.

Also, how can you preach the "love of God" and the "fear of God" at the same time? You can't love and fear something at the same time. Love and fear are totally different vibrations of energy, as the Schuman Cavity in science reveals, that are not compatible. Fear operates on a lower dense vibration while love is on a higher faster more dynamic frequency.

Moreover, these same "religious patriots" also declare Capitalism to be based on the Christian values and principles of hard work and virtuous labor. Yet Capitalism teaches that greed and the accumulation of wealth is a GOOD thing, and encourages self-interest as a primary motivator of the free enterprise system. But on the other hand, the Bible teaches that greed is a BAD thing and leads to sin and destruction, which is taught in many examples and parables in the Bible. As Jesus said, "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Though Bible verses can be interpreted in different ways, there is no question that greed is taught to be a bad thing in the Bible. So again we have two mutually exclusive values. Yet these religious patriots don't see it or reconcile it. They are under mass mind control too, and are not as free as they think they are.

You gotta remember that religion was set up to contain, not to free. And authority is set up to control people, not to serve them. This is why fascist religions like Christianity and Islam constantly seek to convert and dominate others, both in their homeland and abroad, for that is the inherent nature of fascism and tyranny. It's all about control and conquest, not just of lives, but of minds as well.

Religion limits and closes your mind into a rigid belief system that EDITS OUT any new information that doesn't fit into it. It restricts you from seeing reality and others the way they are, removing objectivity and clarity of thought. Yet you are sold the opposite, that religion will "free you". If that isn't mind control and brainwashing, then I don't know what is.

Learn to free your mind, and you will recognize anything in disguise that tries to enslave and control you, and see through their lies.

For more on how Christianity and other fascist religions are used as mass mind control, listen to David Icke's dissertation on it here:



[edit on 24-7-2010 by WWu777]

reply to post by WWu777

From the viewpoint of, say, Oliver Cromwell and the Pilgrim Fathers, "freedom" would have meant "having no human authority interfere in the relationship between us and God- no Pope, no King".

So for them, there would have been no contradiction at all between "freedom" and "christianity".

I would assume that the people mentioned in your first paragraph are defining freedom in much the same way. It may not be your definition of freedom, but there's no reason why they shouldn't use the word in their own sense.