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Originally posted by __rich__
Again, Ag subsidies really don't play a part in the reasons why red states receive more Fed. welfare than Blue states.
From the Tax Foundation:
"Research Areas
Federal Taxes Paid vs. Spending Received by State
States send federal taxes to Washington and receive federal spending in return. However, some states benefit more from federal taxing and spending policies than others. Some "beneficiary" states receive a positive return from Uncle Sam, making other states "donors" who pick up the tab. The most important factor determining whether a state is a net beneficiary is per capita income. States with wealthier residents pay higher federal taxes per capita thanks to the progressive structure of the income tax. Other factors include whether states have powerful Members of Congress, the number of federal employees present in a state, and the number of residents receiving Social Security, Medicare and other federal entitlements."
www.taxfoundation.org...
Nothing about Ag subsidies to Corporations.
Originally posted by __rich__
Projection is your forte, I see, Ko-Dan.
Even a cursory look at a Federal Budget outlay reveals expenditures on Agriculture are smaller than the other social entitlements, across the Union.
But, as usual , per your hypocrisy, you want others to provide sources
I provided multiple links to the actual analyses by the Tax Foundation. They never mentioned Ag subsidies. But they mentioned other factors. Especially income levels.
The breakdown of Fed expenditures in TN was already posted, and showed less was spent on Ag subsidies than social welfare. The Federal Budget spends less on Agriculture than social entitlements.
You are the exact type of person who would advocate secession while at the same time holding out your hand to greedily take your share of federal welfare.
Originally posted by __rich__
What is really interesting is your defense of hypocrisy.
You can think up every excuse for them taking Federal handouts while at the same time talking about secession.
Then you backtrack and say "well, states actually don't get money, the big Ag corporations do."
Originally posted by VirginiaRisesYetAgain
reply to post by __rich__
All this arguing about agriculture funding is superfluous. What's granted by the feds is probably by majority wasted pork-barrel type expenditures anyway in reality.
I have no doubt that Tennessee could survive on its own, and I also don't doubt that people would bring them supplies in support from other states, even if it's outlawed. People living up in their portion of the Appalachians already live vrtiually independent from everyone else, and they haven't minded it so far, so why should they want to join everyone else now?
Originally posted by __rich__
However, talk about secession from the Union doesn't strike me as Patriotic.
We're all in this together, and running away from a problem doesn't seem likie a good way to fix it.
Originally posted by whatukno
I think that any state that wants to secede from the union should do so and should NEVER be allowed to return. They should be declared an Enemy state and no commerce should be done with any state that has left the union.
Any and all federal buildings or military bases should be razed to the ground in a state that wants to secede, all federal roads will have to be severed, and the power grid connecting that state with the union destroyed.
Then the Union can put up checkpoints at the borders to those states and have shoot to kill orders for anyone trying to enter the United States from that state.
Sounds about fair to me.
Originally posted by whatukno
I think that any state that wants to secede from the union should do so and should NEVER be allowed to return. They should be declared an Enemy state and no commerce should be done with any state that has left the union.
Any and all federal buildings or military bases should be razed to the ground in a state that wants to secede, all federal roads will have to be severed, and the power grid connecting that state with the union destroyed.
Then the Union can put up checkpoints at the borders to those states and have shoot to kill orders for anyone trying to enter the United States from that state.
Sounds about fair to me.
Originally posted by SoulofBlack
I do wish that like Europe, the states were all their own separate entities.