People from the Gulf of Mexico...PLEASE SPEAK UP

Originally posted by crazydaisy
reply to post by Blanca Rose

 

I would think of there are millions of dead fish washing up on shore it would be good to stay clear of the water. Thank you for answering my questions.

I'm in south Louisiana.

Many if not most of the fish are steering clear of the plumes but there are lots caught up in it and dieing.

Ranchers will begin to evacuate cattle as soon as they know if the storm will land east of them. This would cause flooding, salt, and oil intrusion and any cattle exposed to this will not be legal to slaughter.

The cap is giving us more hope now since we don't see so much oil spewing into the water. It makes cleanup efforts seem worthwhile with light at the end of the tunnel.

Another issue is the moratorium however. Deep sea rigs are shut from drilling and they are setting up contracts elsewhere around the world. Many people here are losing jobs and many are facing loss of jobs real soon. It is a domino effect and the economy here is really starting to take a hit and it is going to get a lot worse quickly.

I suppose most people think that the moratorium is only temporary and will only last 6 months but you should realize that once these rigs all leave most won't come back any time soon. And the jobs effected are many beyond just the energy companies. The effect on Louisiana will be devastating and the rest of the U.S. will be feeling it before long. Please understand this.


[edit on 23-7-2010 by csimon]

reply to post by StealthyKat


Yes it was very real for people and family killed on 9/11 but thats 4000 people against 7bn.

it's like a movie and they want maximium impact and allowed the oil to hit land but look at the sums.

750 boats end to end used in the clean up operations could en-circle an area of 10 sq KM and 1m gallons of oil a day would only cover 1 sq km.

i've seen things close up but that does not equate to effecting the whole surface of the earth unless it comes in the form of yet more taxes.

The day after 9/11 i nick names George Bush, Chicken # bush and took the bait hook line and sinker but this won't happen a second time.

Not sure what LieBuster is even talking about and the reports of sick workers and mass evacs are a bunch of bull. I came home a month ago from a tour in Afgahnistan and took my 2 sons fishing in Melbourne, Fla ( my exwife and daughter could not make the tripwith us). We spent 9 days there and decided to drive to Tampa and take the coast all the way home. I live in McAllen, Tx. so we drove the entire way up to the Mexico border. We stopped at many places and visisted with friends, family and those we met along the way. I can say that reports of workers getting sick and dying are bull. From a military standpoint there are no plans of evacs along the gulf due to the oil. There is to much fear mongering and over the top claims being made,

On a personal note I would like to say the the enviromental and economic impact are very great. While I feel they will cleanup this spill jusy like they have all others, to see the suffering of the animals is beyond words and the hardship to everyone along the coast who depends on the gulf industry is equaly heart breaking.

reply to post by Birddog26


You are probably right about an evacuation not in store for any time soon. However a trip up the coast is not enough to verifiy whether workers or people there are getting sick.

reply to post by crazydaisy


I do have enough friends and family along the coast to know that if anything of this nature was happening they would be shouting it from the roof tops in such a fashion that the whole world would know. Many of them are involved in rescue of animals and wildlife along the coast.

Originally posted by Birddog26
reply to post by crazydaisy

 

I do have enough friends and family along the coast to know that if anything of this nature was happening they would be shouting it from the roof tops in such a fashion that the whole world would know. Many of them are involved in rescue of animals and wildlife along the coast.

I live in New Orleans and I agree with you!

I thought I'd share these local new stories with you all, after tropical depression Bonnie.

I was surprised read that some oil was pushed onto the beaches, and also that some may have been pushed into marsh land areas. We had little to no wind, and not much rain at all, so thank goodness this storm wasn't any worse.

Oil on beach after Bonnie in Mississippi

HARRISON COUNTY, MS (WLOX) - Cleanup crews will be out on Mississippi beaches first thing Monday morning, cleaning up what Bonnie brought to shore.

Oh, and also from the article, people are still going into the water at the beach.

Lacy said, "We've had people in the water and we've talked to some
of those people and actually they have not complained. And some of this dryer stuff they didn't even notice it. The beach is still clean. The beach is
open and we're not seeing a big impact from this.

So, oil is on the beach from the storm, but no advisories to stay out of the water!

Here is a link for the article stating oil may have been pushed into the Mississippi Sound.

Oil pushed into Mississippi Sound?

Retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the government's point man for the oil disaster, said he had crews checking Sunday to see if boom was still protecting sensitive marshlands or whether Bonnie had pushed it ashore in some areas.

reply to post by Blanca Rose


Blanca thanks for the update. I am glad (pleased, gratefull) to see that there have no further problems so far. Take care.

reply to post by StealthyKat


Stealth, You and I probably know that there is nothing like a p!ssed off mom from the south. You would never quiet one, or a few thousands of them.at the voice they would raise.

I'm wondering when Wikileaks will get on the oil spill.

They'd be logical for whistleblowers, employees and contractors...

Originally posted by crazydaisyYou are probably right about an evacuation not in store for any time soon. However a trip up the coast is not enough to verifiy whether workers or people there are getting sick.

i do not live in the gulf, but i'd like to comment on the alleged lack of 'reports' of dying workers.

i saw the video of a private pilot making a 5 hr 'tour' of the gulf, and i saw the plane COVERED with oil/corexit after it landed. THE STUFF IS IN THE AIR! .. and people are breathing it daily .. oil, corexit, volatile organics, methane, and God only knows what else. if one is downwind of the gulf, they're ingesting the most toxic brew of poisons one can imagine. this is not fear mongering, and its not BS.

the only reason people arent hearing more reports of sick workers is because they're being squashed. people are obviously in near-total denial.

MSNBC: EPA "Legend" Sr Analyst - Feds Involved in Massive Cover-Up of Corexit Toxicity

this TOP EPA analyst/whistleblower is going to rock some boats. Hugh Kaufman is probably the highest gov official yet to 'tell it like it is. he says ..

bp should NOT have used dispersants because of critical toxicity
gov felt citizens couldnt 'handle' the truth about the toxicity
oil has not *disappeared* .. still at bottom because of cold temps
evidence of damage includes mammals like dolphins hemoraging, workers hemoraging, etc .. like exxon valdez had
we can only monitor the situation .. nothing else can be done except to minimize the damage already done
says gulf is poisoned

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by LieBuster
reply to post by StealthyKat

 

750 boats end to end used in the clean up operations could en-circle an area of 10 sq KM and 1m gallons of oil a day would only cover 1 sq km.

you keep saying this over and over as if it isnt common knowledge that the vast majority of the spill is under water, suspended in the water column by corexitt.

I mean, i agree that this isnt the end of the world, but you seem to be denying reality completely.

Originally posted by Birddog26


On a personal note I would like to say the the enviromental and economic impact are very great. While I feel they will cleanup this spill jusy like they have all others, to see the suffering of the animals is beyond words and the hardship to everyone along the coast who depends on the gulf industry is equaly heart breaking.

So, as a resident who seems to rely upon the tourism industry (?), do you feel that the President shouldnt have told people to visit the Gulf?

A lot of folks in this forum (who dont live in the Gulf) seem to think it was terrible for Obama to encourage people to visit the Gulf region and contribute to the economy.

Whats your take?

reply to post by DClairvoyant

try checking out local tv stations and newspapers
Pensacola, Florida
Mobile, Alabama
Orange Beach, Alabama
not to mention Louisiana and Missisippi newspapers and tv stations.
I live on the gulf but outside of seeing a tarball that someone else
picked up on the beach ( it had a sticky oily film that will adhere to
your hands and be hard to wash off ) and knowing that some have gone
in the water and seeing an article that many workers have visited
emergency rooms with various complaints..I wondered why the
article did not give much information????? It's like any other place here,
rumors abound, business and mayhem go on as usual. They may
reopen certain areas for fishing. Remember hearing stories after
hurricane Ivan struck but never knew if they were really true don't
think. It's like one day I feel numb and sorry for the poor creatures
who have to suffer ..and sorry for the fishermen and businesses etc
and the next day I'm relieved that some are going swimming and some
are still fishing...just check out whatever local source you can find.
You can even take a look at this local independent newspaper.
inweekly.net...
They had some good articles in the past but don't know if you can
access them here..I could not do it. Maybe you can.

I think it is a lot worse than msm even knows,hopefully the truth will come out.The way they used corexit should be illega and probaly is in most countrys. But I just wanted to say to the gulf coast people,my heart goes out to ALL of you, this has been heartbreaking for me to watch. I cant imagine how its been far yall. Peace and love to all.

The bit about Grand Isle police forcing people to leave the beach just after President Obama left is true. The workers were not working much either. They were told that the National Guard were on the way and were forced to leave. They took pics with camera phones on the way out of the cleanup crew just sitting around.

Originally posted by csimon
They took pics with camera phones on the way out of the cleanup crew just sitting around.

As has been stated numerous times, they work for ten or twenty minutes and rest for 40. Its hot. They have on lots of gear. They make 12.50 an hour.

the only reason people arent hearing more reports of sick workers is because they're being squashed

You don't really believe this do you?

Millions of people live in the area, are they all being squashed? Do you seriously believe that a story of this magnitude could be squashed?

It's a catastrophe. It's not the end of the world, sorry.

I took a little boat ride around Fourchon LA (next door to Grand Isle) and I have never seen so many porpoises frolicking in the water, following boats playing around, feeding, jumping out of the water it was awesome! according to a local fisherman, the porpoises are enjoying the extra shrimp available to them since shrimping has been outlawed this season.
On another good note, the shrimp will also be extra abundant when shrimping is allowed again, they are being allowed to recover.
Anyhow, some good news from down south!