Pope To Be Protected From Arrest On UK Visit

Pope To Be Protected From Arrest On UK Visit

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The Government has moved to prevent the possibility of an arrest warrant being issued against the Pope during his state visit this autumn.

Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and human rights lawyer Geoffrey Robertson QC were among those campaigners reported to be looking at the options for bringing a private prosecution in relation to the Pope's alleged cover-up of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

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It's pretty disgusting really. Millions of people are blatently aware of the scandals coming out of the Vatican and as always nothing is done... In fact the UK Gov. are making moves to ensure nothing is done.

As with all cases of elites vs. the system they own/run - how are we supposed to do anything? It makes me think nothing will ever change. In fact I don't think this, I know this.

I guess that's how conspiracies work

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He'll fall sooner or later. JUst by looking at him one can sense he is evil, no matter what his position is.

The British really are strangely obsessed with paedophiles aren't they?

Was it Sheffield where they accused half the city of fiddling with their kids?

I wonder if they would have arrested the Prophet Mohammed for his under age kiddie preclusions. Methinks not, in the befuddled British brain only Christians are capable of such wrongdoing.

Originally posted by Retseh
The British really are strangely obsessed with paedophiles aren't they?

Was it Sheffield where they accused half the city of fiddling with their kids?

I wonder if they would have arrested the Prophet Mohammed for his under age kiddie preclusions. Methinks not, in the befuddled British brain only Christians are capable of such wrongdoing.

Not much anyone can do about the Prophet Mohamed now is there?

In my opinion the Pope should be accountable for his actions just like any other. Unless the law say's : Middle class and poor only?

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Above poster beat me to it.



[edit on 23-7-2010 by Rising Against]

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Beat and14263 to it as well

But this is not a race

[edit on 23-7-2010 by Pockets]

Is any one actually surprised? I mean really actually surprised?

Imagine if the head of the Catholic church really did get arrested ... I think the Northern Ireland would get interesting again for a start.

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Seriously, what is your problem with the British? this isn't the first time you have slandered us.

FACT nonces are frowned upon in British society, everything is being done to protect children from these animals. Whether catholic, protestant, hindu, muslim, atheist or whatever.

I myself am protestant, but I don't think the pope should be arrested for the crimes commited by other people. The vatican should be pushed into taking steps so that this sort of stuff doesn't happen.


[edit on 23/7/10 by woogleuk]

The Pope sits on top of as the Public Figure Head of what in reality is the world’s largest empire and corporation.

The Banking and legal system all have its roots in Rome, and it is the single largest property owner on the planet.

Monarchs and Governments all derive their power from Rome.

The Vatican in fact enjoys treaties ensuring it and the Pope’s status with just about every nation on earth, that typically obligate the other nation to quite a bit, and the Vatican and the Pope to virtually nothing.

Even if you arrested the Pope it would do nothing to change this system. The International Banking Cartel would still be controlled by Rome, and the nations are controlled through the debt that leveraged them to the International Banking Cartel.

Rome would simply convene a College of Cardinals to appoint another Pope and life would continue on business as usual.

As usual the bulk of people are fixated on what is in reality the lesser and the least of Rome’s crimes, looking to extract a personal pound of flesh to appease them, as opposed to the true extent of Rome’s crimes and focusing on bringing down the entire religious based system of governance and banking that controls the world.

It is a pity that as usual people are fixated on just one of the little details as opposed to the big picture.

what about a few thousand people trying to citizens arrest the c"""".

this guy really get's my goat.

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In answer to your question, I believe that amongst it's many other transgressions, mostly against its own people, the British have a type of selective religious hatred.

Christianity, long since the founding religion of the western world is hated by your powers that be out of some type of misplaced self-loathing, while religions that spawn fanatical hatred (guess which one I'm thinking of) - get a pass, with stores selling Jihadi videos and hate preaching clerics still openly doing business.

Muslim clerics who espouse violence against children are simply refused entry:

www.express.co.uk...

So why not simply do the same to the Pope if you suspect him to be guilty of a similar violation?

Dual standards? You decide.

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I believe that amongst it's many other transgressions, mostly against its own people, the British have a type of selective religious hatred.

Errrr this doesn't just happen in Britain you know.

There is a whole world of hate out there sadly, not just within our borders.

What are you supposed to do to the head of the holy roman empire?

I mean really?

No arrest can be made because of some pretty old laws.

Is it legal to do that?

It doesn't say much for our justice system if we allow people to be protected from prosecution.

I hope there are demonstrations against his visit, I will be there if there are.

Not to excuse any possible actions of the Pope in regards to sheltering guilty priests, but, from an International standpoint:

The Pope is the head of the State of the Vatican. Literally a head of state, like the President.

So, we could compare this arrest threat to those who wish to arrest the President of the United States for war crimes (which might be an accurate charge)...Not going to happen. International law doesn't really allow for that.

Originally posted by MarkusMaximus
Not to excuse any possible actions of the Pope in regards to sheltering guilty priests, but, from an International standpoint:

The Pope is the head of the State of the Vatican. Literally a head of state, like the President.

So, we could compare this arrest threat to those who wish to arrest the President of the United States for war crimes (which might be an accurate charge)...Not going to happen. International law doesn't really allow for that.

I wouldn't compare the Pope to an American President, more like a tyrant dictator with delusions of grandeur.

Of course they are not carry out an arrest, he is protected under diplomatic immunity.

So they want to arrest him as a witness or as part of a cover up? It's not worth the paperwork or the bad press, he would never even be brought into the station.

It's not a conspiracy, it's international law. Perhaps they should file their complaint with the ICC assuming they are serious in wanting to see the prosecution of the Pope and not just out to draw publicity.

Although given the situation the ICC would mostly likely not pick it up, and the Pope does not have to attend.

In order to truly bring justice their time would be better spent going after those that committed these heinous acts.

is it when you look in a mirror and see an image that all that constituted what was thought to be what is then seen; illegal. in the context of his actions how is he at fault?