New UFO Footage from Northeast England 7-18-10

This so-called "jump" appears to be nothing more than one flare burning out as another ignites, as someone has already pointed out.

In the past Swan Hunter built Naval ships and part of the weaponry included "decoy launchers for chaff and infrared flare rounds." Though they no longer build ships they are still working on maritime engineering projects. Developing/commissioning flare launchers could be part of this work.

The camera was pointing towards Swan Hunter, the objects sure look like flares and their travel coincides with the wind direction of that night - maybe that is the solution.

or maybe this-

The cameraman was standing by the old mill. His height above sea level was around 70 metres at that point. The visible horizon at that vantage point will be approximately 31 kilometres and the flares do appear to be rising from the horizon. If you draw a 31km line from the mill going through Jarrow/Swan Hunter it falls right on top of RAF Ouston/Albemarle Barracks. Check it out on Google Earth 55° 1'27.74"N 1°52'24.81"W


Of the two possibilities I'd favour night time activity at Albemarle.


[edit on 26-7-2010 by torsion]

Originally posted by SeenMyShare

If you pause the playback on your clip at 22 seconds, grab the slider and move it slowly from 23 to 24 seconds you'll see the light jump twice. Once down showing up within the "town?" lights and at 24 seconds back up and to the right.

pretty crazy if that is indeed the movement it made! need a frame by frame analysis taken from the original film cos youtube is pretty grainy.

Yes this is indeed getting better and better. Nice to know we have another witness statement. I am wondering if what he saw is what they chased to begin with as it was also single at the time.Seems like the times were right for that.

I know the first video I edited did seem to me like they were being spit out sort of, just really hard to tell even on full screen.

I cant catch the jump on the second video, or the two jumps I should say. If that was the case though, we should see it 4 times because I only posted the same fraps clip I took four times. So that should appear each time as it is all the same just ran together.

Interesting how the news is ignoring this. That is very odd. Im guessing mozzy is still waiting to hear? I assume you showed the footage? Seems like the STAR is a big paper over there, maybe you should go to them. I am guessing that paper is like our National Enquire but at least they might actually look into it. I don't like the fact it is way to quiet on all those fronts, ie., news, police,military, etc.

I was searching around on youtube last night and a lot yesterday and there are quite a few videos that have popped up from England. I just dont know the cities and their locations to each other. Sure seems something is going on though. They can't All be lanterns.

I like the fact that the folks here are trying to get to the bottom of this though from all kinds of angles. I hope we can come up with size and speed here eventually. That isn't my forte' but I will keep looking for annomolies on the footage. (ugh) I am seeing that footage in my dreams now!

reply to post by escrow
Exactly. There are missing frames in those couple of seconds that would show us the downward motion of said light, and the appearance of the one on the upper right. I suspect we'd see that it's not a true jump but two different lights.

Originally posted by SeenMyShare
reply to post by escrow

 

Exactly. There are missing frames in those couple of seconds that would show us the downward motion of said light, and the appearance of the one on the upper right. I suspect we'd see that it's not a true jump but two different lights.

How does one explain missing frames at that one key point if the rest of the video is all smooth? I only took a fraps shot, so nothing was altered. it will look just the same on the original video.

I guess I could say this is a clue something was done to the video itself, but for some reason I just don't "Feel" that. These guys seemed pretty excited as to what they were seeing and filming.

reply to post by yigsstarhouse


it happens cameras , non pro standard ones do all sorts of daft things while shooting. They are , in effect a *composite* image anyway so there are times when the camera's own memory can glitch.

The witnesses are now claiming there were others saw these lights, so it does seem that they are genuine about the footage.

my guess is that. We are seeing some, quite rare, atmospheric plasma phenomenon.

Originally posted by yigsstarhouse
Yes this is indeed getting better and better. Nice to know we have another witness statement. I am wondering if what he saw is what they chased to begin with as it was also single at the time.Seems like the times were right for that.

I'll keep looking for eyewitness statements. The more we find, and the more descriptions there are of sightings, we may get an explanation for them from people who may be able to tell us for example that is what flares do because of what the lights did according to the sightings and the video.

But alternatively, people may say that flares do not do that, or anything known to man does that!

What I'm trying to say is, is that the more eyewitness statements we find, together with the video, the more we can add depth and description for people to analyse and to fathom perhaps what the lights are.

Originally posted by yigsstarhouse
I know the first video I edited did seem to me like they were being spit out sort of, just really hard to tell even on full screen.

I agree. It did remind me of an aircraft popping flares, but as mozzy said, that's illegal in the UK. Of course, does not stop it happening, but I am not convinced it is aircraft flares.

Originally posted by yigsstarhouse
Interesting how the news is ignoring this. That is very odd. Im guessing mozzy is still waiting to hear?

mozzy did say one eyewitness was laughed at when he reported to the media what he had seen, which does not surprise me sadly.

The media does, it seem, like to mock witnessed events such as these by talking with barely veiled contempt and mockery and play 'The Twilight Zone' or 'X-Files' theme and talk with derision in their voices of little green men.

Originally posted by yigsstarhouse
I assume you showed the footage? Seems like the STAR is a big paper over there, maybe you should go to them. I am guessing that paper is like our National Enquire but at least they might actually look into it. I don't like the fact it is way to quiet on all those fronts, ie., news, police,military, etc.

Agreed. The biggest tabloids in the UK are The Sun, The Daily Star or The Mirror, Daily Mail.

Broadsheets: Daily Express, The Times, The Guardian, The Independent

Originally posted by yigsstarhouse
I was searching around on youtube last night and a lot yesterday and there are quite a few videos that have popped up from England. I just dont know the cities and their locations to each other. Sure seems something is going on though. They can't All be lanterns.

Could you list some of those locations? I agree, they can't all be lanterns!

Originally posted by yigsstarhouse
I like the fact that the folks here are trying to get to the bottom of this though from all kinds of angles. I hope we can come up with size and speed here eventually. That isn't my forte' but I will keep looking for annomolies on the footage. (ugh) I am seeing that footage in my dreams now!

The thread is going well, and the investigating and theories by all is very interesting indeed.

Keep up the good work! I'm very glad you posted this thread and video.


I have found a video of people testing 'laser flares' to see if they could replace incendiary hand flares, from the magazine Motor Boats Monthly, June 2009.

The part of the video to pay attention to is from 0:08 seconds, which begins with the description "Red rescue laser flare a distance of 0.25 miles" to 0:25 seconds.





The video is from the article here:

See video from MBM's test of laser flares

From the link:

See video from MBM's test of laser flares

Thu, 28 May 2009 Stewart Campbell / Motor Boats Monthly

In our June issue we put a couple of laser flares to the test to see whether they could replace incendiary hand flares. See how they did here

Anyone curious as to the efficacy of the laser flares we tested in MBM's June issue can now see the units in action in the below video.

We tested two of Greatland Laser's rescue flares - the Rescue Laser Flare Magnum and Green Rescue Laser Flare. In the video, they're labelled simply red and green.

The first test was conducted at a distance of a quarter of a mile, and the second at a mile and a quarter. As you can see in the video, the green flare performed magnificently over both distances.

Footage of the red flare at a mile and a quarter was not included in the video as it was too hard to pick up when editing the footage.

So in comparison of the flare between 0:08 and 0:25 and the lights in the video, what are everyone's thoughts?




[edit on 26-7-2010 by Regensturm]

The footage I'm looking at is consistent w. flares being dropped into a heavy wind. I'm only leaning toward flares because none of the objects ever change direction. If we could get a lock on where exactly this was filmed, we could better determine if there's a base or airport in the area, and if any exercises were being performed. Good footage tho.

[edit on 26-7-2010 by NightVision]

Originally posted by NightVision
If we could get a lock on where exactly this was filmed, we could better determine if there's a base or airport in the area, and if any exercises were being performed. Good footage tho.
[edit on 26-7-2010 by NightVision]

You need to read the thread, Nightvision, that has already been established.

Camera positioned at Cleadon Mill and pointing towards distant Albemarle barracks home of the 39th Regiment RA. Most likely night time training with parachute flares in use.

reply to post by torsion


Read the thread again. It has been clearly established, dropping flares over built up areas is Illegal.

reply to post by FireMoon


We're talking use of flares over a military base, not a residential area!

Click the link in my post. Lots or training going on, what with Afghanistan, and all!

reply to post by torsion


The base in Newcastle is in the built up area. I'd guess it's their admin bases and not a training site. it wouldn't matter if it was slap bang in the middle of Newcastle they wouldn't be dropping flares over it.

UFOs matching that sort of look and behaviour are being filmed all over the world. I think these videos if anything are of real UFOs as at the current time probably 99.9% of the population do not know what they are.

IT IS FLARES. How come when it comes to OH, A UFO SIGHTING. You can never make out the object, or objects due to the night, camera blurr, going to fast or some other thing going on so you cannot make out the pic. I for just ONCE, would like to see a pic or video where you are up close and personal and there is no photoshop, blurrs, dark and so forth, of a UFO that you can actually look at and study. HELLO, GIVE ME JUST ONE. FLARES,FLARES,FLARES

Originally posted by yigsstarhouse
How does one explain missing frames at that one key point if the rest of the video is all smooth? I only took a fraps shot, so nothing was altered. it will look just the same on the original video.

For the purposes of information only and not because I consider Wikipedia a reliable "news" source here is a Link to an article describing frame rate.
You tube does not present those videos at the original frame rate. I'm NOT saying that the video has been altered or misrepresented by the individual filming at all, ok?

Originally posted by FireMoon
reply to post by torsion

 

The base in Newcastle is in the built up area. I'd guess it's their admin bases and not a training site. it wouldn't matter if it was slap bang in the middle of Newcastle they wouldn't be dropping flares over it.

I don't know which base you are talking about, Firemoon. Clearly not the one I linked to.

Try the link on my earlier post again or go here on Google Earth.
55° 1'27.74"N 1°52'24.81"W

I'll say it again - Albemarle Barracks

It is about 30k away from where the cameraman was stood. If you are 70m above sea level the visible horizon will be 30k. The cameraman was at 70m and the flares appeared to be on the horizon.

Originally posted by yigsstarhouse
Seems there was a lot of action in Northeast England on the 18th. Thought you folks might want to check it out. Some have said flares, but I dont know, seems to be to many lights just blinking on and off, or coming and going. The guys talking in the background seem pretty excited too.
Anyhow Im not the professional debunker around here, just something I found that was pretty new and thought I'd throw it out here.

in case link doesn't work:
UFO over Northeast England

[edit on 22-7-2010 by yigsstarhouse]

I saw the exact same thing twice over a period of a couple of weeks a couple of years back. 1st time I saw them alone, second time with a mate and then got hold of my mum to tell her.

That was in the North West of England, East Manchester to be exact. They came from towards the city center, right over us, 7 miles out.

Now I put them down to being Chinese Lanterns or similar. I'm pretty sure that's what they were, especially as they came from the ground. They did come our way very fast though on a not particulalry windy night.

I dunno, whatever they were though, they were the same kind of thing as whatever is in this video. So, my guess is that we are looking at Chinese lanterns here.

I'd love to be proved wrong though!

reply to post by torsion


Posting the same link over and over wont make a blind bit of difference. You obviously haven't bothered to check out anything at all save for having already decided you know the answer and then found the first thing that seems to back it up and then just keep banging on about it.


What part of the sentence . It is illegal to release flares in an urban area do you not understand? It is their barracks in Newcastle NOT, a training base. Does that actually compute/ In other words, a collection of highly flammable buildings they sleep and eat in. NOT a training ground.

Oh, and you clarification for the horizon... That's if the land is flat, I've quote enough enough times on here myself. It isn't ,the land rises. I'm guessing but not as yet sure that, the horizon is the area of the golf course and Arthur's hill. otherwise I am guessing the skyline runs roughly from Smallburn to Hartford Bridge. Albemarle barracks is relatively small facility hemmed in by woodlands and farm land

[edit on 26-7-2010 by FireMoon]

Those favouring the Flares Theory would like to watch this video of actual military flares
exercises in Brazil, Does these images look similar to you? According to the source
these military flares released during military exercises in Minas Gerais Brazil. Watch the
video and make your opinion.



I'm not saying this is what appeared in Northeast England, a reasonable doubt exists
but if we are looking for images of something similar to be compared this video shows
how some military flares behave during certain kind of exercises. Standard military
flares follow a straight line according to the aiplane flying path, I've seen several
videos and I don't find any of them similar to the England one. But this video may
be a reference to understand what could have been the lights in the July 18 incident
but again it's just a theory, you decide. Watch the complete video here with a detailed
description of what these military flares are and how they work, a narration signaling
the lights (flares) explaining how they behave / look. This is the best video I have
found as a reference till now. Special thanks to brazilian researcher Claudeir Covo.


NOTE: Just as a comment, if you think british military wouldn't perform illegal exercises
or maneuvers, you are praying to the wrong saint.

reply to post by FireMoon


Albermarle Barracks is situated where R.A.F. Ouston used to be.

wikimapia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

It is indeed North West of Cleadon Mill and would be in the line of sight of the video, be it about 20 miles away.

It is in a pretty remote area and the use of flares would be allowed.