Pakistan knows where Osama is hiding: Hillary Clinton

reply to post by solidshot


Coz Pakistan is a goddamn "ticking" time bomb. What you refer to as "aid" is actually ransom money for the babysitter who houses the nukes.

And for the record it is the "billions" not "millions".


Heres Hillary giving aid(read scooby biscuits) to Pakistan to ensure that it stays a good doggy

Link: www.bbc.co.uk...






[edit on 20-7-2010 by Leonardo01]

reply to post by 33Levels

I think elements in the government do (know the whereabouts of bin Laden). I've said that before. But I think it is also important to know we have been getting with Pakistani cooperation a lot of the top leadership of Al Qaeda,"

When you go the source your source used that’s what she actually said. So what she is really saying is that she THINKS that some people in the ISI or Pakistani government know where he is and then starts to talk about Pakistani American cooperation. To me this sounds more like she is saying some people in the Pakistani government and intelligence might know where he is. She is not saying however that “Pakistan knows were Bin Laden is hiding” rather that some elements in Pakistan might know. Seems to me she is referring to maybe a few mid level civil servants and perhaps even a couple of members of parliament but we have known for quite some time that there are allot of Al’Qa’Ida and Taliban sympathisers within Pakistan so it is not surprising she says this. Personally I think bin laden is long dead, they are now hunting the symbol and not the man.

[edit on 20-7-2010 by kevinunknown]

When you go the source your source used that’s what she actually said. So what she is really saying is that she THINKS that some people in the ISI or Pakistani government know where he is and then starts to talk about Pakistani American cooperation. To me this sounds more like she is saying some people in the Pakistani government and intelligence might know where he is. She is not saying however that “Pakistan knows were Bin Laden is hiding” rather that some elements in Pakistan might know. Seems to me she is referring to maybe a few mid level civil servants and perhaps even a couple of members of parliament but we have known for quite some time that there are allot of Al’Qa’Ida and Taliban sympathisers within Pakistan so it is not surprising she says this. Personally I think bin laden is long dead, they are now hunting the symbol and not the man.

[edit on 20-7-2010 by kevinunknown]

Oh please, get real. She couldn't be more crystal clear than this and does not have to spell it out for you. Pakistan certainly knows where the current figurehead of the al-quaeda is even if it ain't Bin Laden.

reply to post by Leonardo01


Pakistan has a history of alliance to a number of Sunni terrorist organisations, that is true, however the current administration has drastically changed its stance on supporting these groups in accordance with all Pakistani administrations since 9/11. Elements within Pakistan probably know where he is and sympathise with his cause. If he was to be any were in Pakistan then he would most probably been in the lawless tribal areas on the border with Afghanistan and with current joint Pakistani American attacks in that rejoin i doubt he would stay long. Currently in Pakistan there is a major crack down on all terrorist organisations, it is no longer a safe place for terrorists. With that said it is more likely that he has field to Yemen and perhaps this was supported by elements within the ISI however without the knowledge of more senior Pakistani figures. Doesn’t really matter because he’s probably dead.

Here's an Osama timeline...doesn't seem like there's anything in there from 2010 yet though. Guess that's because he's just recently resurfaced?

Now this is total complete Bulls**t... Hilary knows as well as the world that Osama is dead... Jus another way of keeping the wool over our eyes and keeping the terror in us.

This interview with Benazir Bhutto saying that Osama had been murdered. Is she not creditable enough to believe (former president of Pakistan) she was going to invite USA & UK to do there full investigations.

www.youtube.com...

Now check this out! something else, the same interview, but when it was aired on national TV it completely deleted the part where Bhutto says Osama was murdered.

www.youtube.com...

Then Bhutto gets Murdered!

We know Osama is dead, Once again our minds are being brain washed to think about terror... When They are creating the Terror! Where has all the PEACE gone...

How interesting HILARY!!! Care to comment on what Benazir said? Bet you can't or do you need your advisors for HELP!

[edit on 20-7-2010 by Grand Master]

[edit on 20-7-2010 by Grand Master]

Mmmm... Hilary (Billary) Clinton? Is that the same Hilary Clinton that landed in Bosnia and had to sprint from the plane to the waiting car while under fire?

Is that the one?

'nuff said!

As a politician, she is used to spouting complete and utter lies. She knows they are lies and she knows that we know they are lies but she'll spout them anyway, because that is what is expected of her. It doesn't matter that we all think she's a certifiable sociopath, all that matters is that she lies, becuase at the end of the day, what the politicians say matters and what we think or say matters not!

Hilary handing out AID!

Ohh Pleaseeeee Hilary... With USA at financial crisis... and your handing out AID... Aid is needed more in gulf disaster, Aid is needed in building USA from prior disasters.

So please HILARY get your priorities right before handing out money.

Oh Hilary, U know none of that money will be spend on right things. With Zardari running the country to the highest corruption levels and lining his pocket with the money.
Corruption at its highest Hilary Level

lol i think hilary is just here to cause trouble

He ain't dead?

December 2001 Quoting an unnamed Taliban official, the Pakistan Observer reported that Bin Laden died of untreated lung complications and was buried in an unmarked grave in Tora Bora on December 15.[119] This report was picked up by Fox News in the United States on December 26.[120] Also on December 26, the Egyptian newspaper AlWafd - Daily carried a short obituary by a prominent official of the Afghan Taliban, who was allegedly present at the funeral, stating Bin Laden had been buried on or about December 13:[121] "(Osama bin Laden) suffered serious complications and died a natural, quiet death. He was buried in Tora Bora, a funeral attended by 30 Al Qaeda fighters, close members of his family and friends from the Taliban. By the Wahhabi tradition, no mark was left on the grave"

en.wikipedia.org...

www.rumormillnews.com...

I thought he died years ago,(after all,it sure ain't him in most of the videos)but a dead bogey man is no good is he?

Doubt hes still alive in Pak or Iran-more likeley in cold storage at langley,ready to be thawed and wheeled out for the press at a time of their choosing...

"We found him!" They shall squeal with delight.

reply to post by 33Levels


i agree. he IS dead- he died in December of 2001. odd how Hillary Clinton would use Pakistan as support for her statements, when Pakistan's president was one of the first to confirm that he WAS dead:

Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December [2001] and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.

source

another link

They don't ask Pakistan to catch him because next week he'll already be in north korea.

I heard he was in Venezuela...no, no, it was Cuba. No wait...he's on the Mexican border in Arizona with Hezbollah.

imo this is reallly blatant 'roll out the bogeyman' to cover other matters like economic crises, the spill, duration in Afghanistan, maybe even a punt towards future conflict. Shame the fake big nose Osama couldn't present it

reply to post by kevinunknown


I concur with you this and this is sort of my stand too. Hillary is only stating the obvious and I don't think she has any real information at all.It is quite irrelevant at this point whether Osama is actually alive or dead but what is however apparent that there are factions in the Pakistani military and the ISI who have close ties with terrorist factions and would know where the current figurehead of the Al-Qaeda is.

Pakistan must be kept under tight scrutiny at all times for all we need is to have one nuclear warhead missing and we would have a "broken arrow" situation on our hands.


[edit on 20-7-2010 by Leonardo01]

Originally posted by Leonardo01
reply to post by kevinunknown

 

I concur with you this and this is sort of my stand too. Hillary is only stating the obvious and I don't think she has any real information at all.It is quite irrelevant at this point whether Osama is actually alive or dead but what is however apparent that there are factions in the Pakistani military and the ISI who have close ties with terrorist factions and would know where the current figurehead of the Al-Qaeda is.

Pakistan must be kept under tight scrutiny at all times for all we need is to have one nuclear warhead missing and we would have a "broken arrow" situation on our hands.


[edit on 20-7-2010 by Leonardo01]

Don't forget to mention that CIA have the same connections to Al-Qaeda along side ISI. ISI and CIA have been working together with the Mujahideen since Russia invaded Afghanistan in the early 80s.

It was actually CIA who initiated to create Al-Qaeda by bringing in radicals from Saudi Arabia to fight along side the Mujahdeen.


The Only prof intelligence have of Osama Bin Laden's connections to 911 is through his speeches in Afghanistan prior to spring of 2001. It is mentioned in the PDB.

Osamas knowledge about 911 can also be interpreted as intelligence. That Osama knew that something big was going to happen in the US. But that does not mean he was in charge of 911. It might only mean that he had knowledge about the event.
There were groups within the Mujahideen that didn't support the 911 event.

Osama was the only person who really spoke out loud in public about the event prior to 911. That is what the PDB is all about. Personally i think Osama spoke out loud to get attention. To warn the west of what was going to happen. That is also what the PDB is all about.

[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

Originally posted by spy66

Originally posted by Leonardo01
reply to post by kevinunknown

 

I concur with you this and this is sort of my stand too. Hillary is only stating the obvious and I don't think she has any real information at all.It is quite irrelevant at this point whether Osama is actually alive or dead but what is however apparent that there are factions in the Pakistani military and the ISI who have close ties with terrorist factions and would know where the current figurehead of the Al-Qaeda is.

Pakistan must be kept under tight scrutiny at all times for all we need is to have one nuclear warhead missing and we would have a "broken arrow" situation on our hands.


[edit on 20-7-2010 by Leonardo01]

Don't forget to mention that CIA have the same connections to Al-Qaeda along side ISI. ISI and CIA have been working together with the Mujahideen since Russia invaded Afghanistan in the early 80s.

It was actually CIA who initiated to create Al-Qaeda by bringing in radicals from Saudi Arabia to fight along side the Mujahdeen.


The Only prof intelligence have of Osama Bin Laden's connections to 911 is through his speeches in Afghanistan prior to spring of 2001. It is mentioned in the PDB.

Osamas knowledge about 911 can also be interpreted as intelligence. That Osama knew that something big was going to happen in the US. But that does not mean he was in charge of 911. It might only mean that he had knowledge about the event.
There were groups within the Mujahideen that didn't support the 911 event.


[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

Both the CIA and the FBI have a hand in the creation of the Al-qaeda and the Taliban as well. At that time they were referred to as the "mujahideen" which is Arabic for freedom fighters.It was also in the interest of the United States to circumvent the Russian invasion and takeover of Afghanistan.

They succeeded but this led to the creation of the terrorist organizations that you see today.While the CIA did have a hand in the inception of the Muhjaideen they do not have any strong links now.The ISI however does and the transcripts of the lone terrorist caught in the Mumbai attack reveal that the militants were actually trained by a Pakistani colonel.



[edit on 21-7-2010 by Leonardo01]

reply to post by Leonardo01


I beg to differ. FBI was often restricted by CIA to investigate specific people involved all the way up to 911. That can only indicate that CIA is working both sides.

Originally posted by spy66
reply to post by Leonardo01

 

I beg to differ. FBI was often restricted by CIA to investigate specific people involved all the way up to 911. That can only indicate that CIA is working both sides.

Perhaps so. However there were many government agencies involved in this and the history of the Taliban goes to the 80 and even the late 70s where it was part of the U.S stratagem to raise insurgents to fight against the Russian Invasion. The CIA was the principal agency involved in this and the U.S government heavily aided this movement of radicals or jihadis in their so called "holy war" against the evil empire "USSR".

Between 1978 and 1992, the US government poured at least US$6 billion (some estimates range as high as $20 billion) worth of arms, training and funds to prop up the mujaheddin factions. Other Western governments, as well as oil-rich Saudi Arabia, kicked in as much again. Wealthy Arab fanatics, like Osama bin Laden, provided millions more.

Its easy to blame the CIA but the CIA is merely a tool.

[edit on 21-7-2010 by Leonardo01]

you'd have to work both sides to truly be an 'intelligence agency,' wouldn't you?

i imagine the line gets blurry right off the bat, but i don't know.
it doesn't surprise me that more and more i see that we are the source of our own problems, or so-called problems - terrorism being one of them.