I predicted Satan would come to light

For Satan is St. John (the author of the book Revelation) taking a far journey, who left his ill-will, and gave authority to his self, and to him his work, and commanded himself to watch.

Watch yourself not therefore, Satan: for you (Satan) know when the ANCIENT OF DAYS of your ill-will come, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly HE find HIM AND HIS DAYS sleeping. And what I say unto myself I say unto Satan, Watch.

Satan is not worried about what is in a book of his doing. Revelation contridicts the gospels. This is why Satan's children that are of the physical will tell you that the bible is inaccurate. So if any one will try to worry ppl, who Satan is amongst as also, with what is in Revelation as possiblely coming true, they will be told easily that the connections they are making are simply not true. Well it sure does take a father of lies to tell at least that much of a truth, that the connection can not be since that book was written by a very hard working Satan through a member of his physical children.

Which of you still buy Revelation's Christ over the Gospels no Christ? At least you see Jesus (the Father) Himself state there is no Christ in the gospels (recall the clear line point blank: "many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and shall decieve many."). Why go by some supposed angel who some fella named St. John claimed to have been visited by? You gonna trust a man's word over the Father's word?

Me - I trust the gospels only, not Revelation. AND HOW MANY TIMES WILL YOU LET 666 OR 616 CONFUSE YOU? Until you die? That writing is from the devil because it can NEVER be figured out because it wasnt meant to be figured out in how the devil intended it to never be figured out.

O, and I predicted Satan would come to light in this thread.

QUESTION IT! COMMENT ON IT! ADD TO IT! Don't let Satan pass go with his lie that got him far in journey.


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And the game don't stop. This is proof why everything in life wasn't meant to be taught, but for one to discover for themselves. Your opinion is noted.

I am confused, that is what satan must be sayin.

The beast is passionate, but in a dark sense, it reflect all that is good, in the presence of light, but once everyone is gone, he/she is back to cause distaste in that which otherwise brought health.

I thought "St. John" (The apostle) and John - the one who wrote Revelations were two different people...

You are a christian that doesnt beleive in the book of revelation, and then go on to accuse satan of writing it, thats a new one! Well he did write a book but none of it is in our bible. As far as revelation not being real or coming true, to my reckoning we are already half way through, if im correct the sixth seal is next. Oh by the way his book is called the quran!

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Would you mind putting the chapters and verses to your bible quotes as a reference ?
And what do you mean exactly by saying Satan will come to light ?
Whats your basis for claiming that the gospels are in contradiction with the book of Revelation ?
I believe this quote "many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and shall deceive many." is referring to the times leading up to God's eventual return to cleanse the world of sin and take those deemed righteous after the final judgment day .
This quote from what I'm told refers to false prophets performing seemingly great and miraculous miracles in order to deceive people into believing that Christ has returned to save humanity from their perils , basically Satan using his powers to deceive humanity into believing he is the Christ and setting up his own religion where he is worshiped by the masses as an affront to God who he despises .
By the way Jesus is not the "father" he is the son of God but has equal authority , as does the Holy spirit , which according to my understanding of the bible are 3 separate identities .
Cheers


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Are you that blind? How can I be a CHRISTIAN WHEN CHRISTIANS BELIEVE THERE IS A CHRIST?

The Father was called Jesus Christ, but not by Him His Self. He mentions clear He is not the Christ more than once. I buy His sayings only, not any Christian sayings.

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Matt 16:20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

He abides in the truth. So therefore when He charged that in that quote He is meaning He is not the Christ. That is why they should tell no man He was the Christ, because He is meaning He never was. Or else why tell no man you are Christ if you abide in truth? See? Someone abiding in the truth would not hide the truth, would they? Nope. And dont lie to yourselves either. Go by the Father's sayings only, not what those other ppl called Him even in the Gospels.

You will either abide in truth or you will not. It is noticeable in which of you will abide in truth put to you clear. It is also noticeable in which of you are still hung up on Revelation in how it is meant to make you dwell on it to keep you lead astraigh. If any religion will use Satan's work, I would suggest that you abandon them.

Satan's children will seek to keep ppl locked onto any book of his authorship. Trust that! Note them that try.

Since the Father is not doing the Christ thing, which would take Him to do, then you know that it means there was no SAVING from, say, eternal damnation to be done. Notice it is said that the same shall be saved of he that shall endure unto the end? The same saved only means they shall remain the exact same person with no changes. It has nothing to do with saved from hell, or else He would have mentioned a from what they are saved from.

So in short, only the devil and his angels are mentioned to be them that shall go into hell (everlasting fire, everlasting punishment). No one should feel damned to hell unless they know they are a devil. This is why Satan's children will still have an issue when hell is being mentioned, even when hell is clearly stated that it is not for anyone else but the devil and his angels (see Matt 25).

O, and hell is not until heaven and earth pass away. So I asure any of you that Satan's children would be telling the truth that there is no hell currently. And another thing, hell is not going to be a physical place because hell shall be what shall not have any flesh to burn. Nerves of the flesh would not allow anyone to continue to feel the heat causing pressure of hell. But one's spirit is what technically can keep on feeling heat causing pressurization. Heat shall cause a spirit to weep and wail. Pressurization shall cause a spirit to gnash. Gnashing of teeth is just an expression to imply there shall be hurtful pressurization. And you should be able to conclude that weeping or wailing is to imply there shall be hurful, extreme heating. That extreme heat shall not be by the physical heat sources we earthlings of flesh know of.

The only one that is in danger of eternal damnation is he that blasphemied against the Holy Ghost. The only one that did such a thing is the devil.


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Obviously, taken out of context. If its not a contradiction that someone "found" then its always something taken out of context. Both involve not reading the entire verse that it came from.

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I like your approach. I think from now on, I'm only going to believe the middle of the dictionary. Say from L to N. To hell with the rest of it! Oh, and by the way. The lyrics from Rocky are Gonna fly now.

Wouldn't be any fun without Satan....

Satan represents the application of free will.

No good if ya can't use it!

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There is a parable by the Father that mentioned the seed that fell by the wayside. It is better to stick with the seed that fell into good ground, like by Whose sayings are a better truth abiding source than any one else's in the gospels. That would be the Father's sayings.

It's like why not listen to the source itself in life? Any other on the wayside is grounds for Satan's playground.

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I didn't quote from the bible in the OP up top.

If Jesus is not the Father, then why did He say He and His Father are one (see John 10)? If you will abide in the truth, then you know better than to deny the Father's words.

See Matt 16:20 which aids that the Father is not the Christ, again, by His own words charged that the one making account heard. Two times in different ways by the source ITSELF don't lie. So why would anyone still deny? Satan's grasp that tight? To not buy the ones making account on what He said is to reject everything in the gospels.


Satan has come to light by many ways noticeable. One way is by the Father's words, the other way is by Satan's children.

The Father has greater witness than that of John. The Father even said that all that ever came before Him are theives and robbers. Notice that in Satan's Revelation that that version of Jesus in there is saying he comes as a thief? But the Father, in the book of John in chapter 10, states CLEAR, understandable warning about that thief crap. The Father is no thief nor is/will come as a thief.

Then, as if that isnt enough, take a look into Matt 24:43 where the Father CLEARLY tells on the thief in a way that expressess He is not one to come in what watch a thief would. But He makes clear He had known Satan's work which uses the thief approach as a lying theme about Him.


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Free will is shown clearly by Satan who is the example. For if there were no free will, then no one could blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, to become in danger of eternal damnation.

So with free will there are those who will be fruitful to the Father's grand scheme, and with free will there are those who will be unfruitful to the Father's grand scheme. No one for being fruitful wants to be in a grand scheme that includes those for being not fruitful. So basically, one can tell there is a wise seperation by the grand scheme. The ones who will freely determine to be of ill-will shall be put in a place far away from those who will freely determine to be fruitful.

I tell you, that no one can to be excluded from the Father's grand scheme which is told to His living creations doesn't support ill-will from the moment specific, living creations come to by the Father's grand scheme set up. You have to be determining to be of ill-will towards others, and determine to not hath understanding, which living creations are included with, toward the Father's advisory on blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, to be excluded by your own doing from the Father's grand scheme.

So basically, free will is no excuse to play stupid toward the Father's understandable advisory word on blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, just to try at being some kind of a continually ill-willed being toward others.



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Over the weekend I got these answers. Take them as you will........

“Who is God?” “God” is everything good that exists.

“Explain that to me.” Picture the earth as a fruit tree. It takes nutrients from the ground and brings it into itself so that it can produce fruit and grow larger. That fruit is then eaten and spread to produce new fruit trees. The new trees then grow up so that they can produce fruit themselves. The universe is fed just like the fruit tree but pure energy is what feeds the universe instead of soil. If the fruit is “pure” then it is eaten, if not it is left.

“Is that why there are black holes?” Think of black holes as a deposit box or returning energy. Returning the energy from where it came from to be used somewhere else. But you must be careful; there is more than one type of black hole.

“Explain that to me.” There are “Good” black holes and “evil” black holes and they come in many different types.

“Explain that to me.” The “black holes” in the center of each galaxy is a “Good” thing. Another form of a “black hole” is one who always wants, and tries to get those wants from others. An example is someone who asks to “borrow” money with no intent to pay back. They are in fact a “black hole” and should be avoided. Planets have gravity to hold “Good” in place and, have branched properties of a black hole. There are many different forms but these are just a few examples.

“Doesn’t that mean it also holds evil in place?” Everything is “Good” until the test is finished and decided if passed or failed.

“So we should never lend money?” I did not say that. Part of life is to learn these things. If I were to explain everything then it wouldn’t be your choice would it? These things are all parts that we all must learn.

“Why are we here?” To learn what “Good” and “Evil” is, and whether or not you are “pure.”

“Explain that to me.” “God” is everything good. All life starts as good but in order to create new “Good” it must be touched by “evil” to undergo the test. If the test is passed then you stay “Good” and remain part of “God”. If not you are born again and the process starts all over. It goes in a circle like this until it is realized that it is “Good.” Many never realize this because “evil” tries to hide the “Good.”

“Explain that to me.” That is part of the test and you must learn that on your own. I will say however if you follow your heart then you won’t be let down.

“Are any religions correct?” To answer that complete question would take to long to answer, however I will say that at one time my word was written down everywhere but over time “evil” has been changing my word, but it is all part of the test. I will also say that you don’t need any “Book” to understand “Good” and “Evil.”

“Why have you waited so long?” I have, and always will be here.

“So is the test finished then???” You will know the test is finished when you see me.

“How do we know if we are good or evil?” You will know when you believe what I am telling you.

“Explain that to me.” When you are born you ask questions. The questions you ask are to help you take the test.”

“Why are we here?” I already answered that.


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It does seem as if the words of the carpenter were lost while people attempted to worship him.

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I made no confusion. I am referring to who wrote Revelation, to be very clear. If you want to get into whether or not it's the same John mentioned in any book somewhere else, then that is for another topic besides this one.

I don't get this thread at all.

Satan was a concept created by men, the Bible was authored by men.

Powerful men. Men who are powerful because of Religion.

Originally posted by earthdude
It does seem as if the words of the carpenter were lost while people attempted to worship him.

In the Gospel a true worshipper of the Father will worship in spirit and in truth which is how saught to by the Father, and not do so any other way. The going to church thing to worship, is not saught by the Father. The public display is not saught. For instants, if I were to say something like this on here: "Father, I worship you!" before men, that would be not in spirit and in truth at all. So you are correct how the words were lost by ppl doing what is not saught by the Father. And we see how wise it is in how the Father saught to rather be worshipped.

Here is a quote:

John 4:23
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. --by the Father.

So beware of every preacher in every church who do not abide in the truth they claim to have studied to know in some bible school. Beware. Would not Satan, through his children, work hard by way of ministers? See?


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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
I don't get this thread at all.

Satan was a concept created by men, the Bible was authored by men.

Powerful men. Men who are powerful because of Religion.

I asure you Satan is not the devil's own chosen name, but the name "Satan" is used so that you know who its referring to period.

You say the bible, but I reject the bible, except for the Gospel books where an account is given on the Father's words I recieve is of truth, based on consistancy I find in the Father's sayings.

You reject the accounts because it is written by men. I understand where you are coming from. But when I read I am recieving truth that makes me personally validate the Father's words for myself from the accounts made by men. Understand that it is an in spirit and in truth thing upon reading over what is called accounts, which means to each their own understanding of what is noticeable of truth and is not deniable in spirit and in truth period.



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