U.S. Atheists Reportedly Using Hair Dryers to 'De-Baptize'

I completely agree with this

Parents are wrong to baptise their children before they are able to make their own choices

reply to post by harrytuttle


Agreed. Well put. It seems that these people are going the way of the Satanic Church or the Hellfire Club by not just not believing, but spending time mocking Christianity as well.

Hopefully behavior like this doesn't lead into more popular trends.

Originally posted by Pockets
I completely agree with this

Parents are wrong to baptise their children before they are able to make their own choices

So you disagree with any culture, opinions, mentorship, and customs that parents may want to pass on to their kids. Do you have kids of your own? I'm thinking not, and if you do, are you raising them in some plan generic malleable clay like existence so that they can mold themselves as they see fit?

I'm not sure what one would call this, but it wouldn't be called parenthood. ..

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Pockets
I completely agree with this

Parents are wrong to baptise their children before they are able to make their own choices

So you disagree with any culture, opinions, mentorship, and customs that parents may want to pass on to their kids. Do you have kids of your own? I'm thinking not, and if you do, are you raising them in some plan generic malleable clay like existence so that they can mold themselves as they see fit?

I'm not sure what one would call this, but it wouldn't be called parenthood. ..

Parents are responsible for their children. Period! Of course parents are going to teach them their beliefs and culture.

Adults are responsible for themselves. Take charge of your life - - and stop blaming your childhood.

Originally posted by C09JayLT
reply to post by undo

 

'Common atheist ideas'? There is only one 'common atheist idea.' That is that there is insufficient evidence to prove the existance of a deity. You cannot hold the 'common atheist idea' and not be an atheist. After that, any two atheists can be as different as any two other humans.

Just because there is insufficient evidence does not mean that it does not exist. There was a time when there was insufficient evidence about atoms, yet Rutherfords scaterring experiments proved otherwise. There was a time when there was insufficient evidence to prove general relativity...the eclipse of the sun and Einstein crosses and time dilation proved otherwise. You cant prove certain things. Certian things cannot be proven you just have to accept them. Dark matter is purported to exist but we cannot prove it.

This universe was engineered to exacting specifications to permit the formation of life o earth. The expansion rate of the universe is so precise taht a 1/10 millionth change in velocity in either direction would not allow life to form. An increase in such a minute amount and the density of the gases would not be sufficient to allow stars to form. A decrease in taht amount of speed and the universe would collapse back on itlself too quickly and not permit the formation of life.

Ask a fish to prove taht you made its fishbowl. We humans do not have the capacity to understand an omnipotent creator and you should just accept the fact taht we are the fish in the bowl and we cant prove who made the bowl, but we do know someone made the bowl because the signs of it being engineered are around.

We expecting to have proof is just a sign of human arrogance and the fact that we ought to be able to prove something that we do not have the capacity to understand. I mean seriously go ask a fish to prove that you made the bowl. Ask a fish to understand quantum mechanics. Do you think the fish will understand? No you just have to accept the fact that we can never be on the same level as an omnipotent god so therefore do not expect a proof.

de baptizing with a hair dryer?! you can tell this is fun, seems to come up from a melbrooks film... and the label reason end truth made me really laugh.

Originally posted by airspoon

U.S. Atheists Reportedly Using Hair Dryers to 'De-Baptize'

www.foxnews.com

American atheists lined up to be "de-baptized" in a ritual using a hair dryer, according to a report Friday on U.S. late-night news program "Nightline."

Leading atheist Edwin Kagin blasted his fellow non-believers with the hair dryer to symbolically dry up the holy water sprinkled on their heads in days past. The styling tool was emblazoned with a label reading "Reason and Truth."

Kagin believes parents are wrong to baptize their children before they are able to make their own choices, eve

(visit the link for the full news article)

and i think tha ANYONE who took this seriously, is on the wrong path. this will make laugh any christian with a sense of humor. if you don't have it, is a bigger problem than god yes/no discussion...

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONALThis universe was engineered to exacting specifications to permit the formation of life o earth. The expansion rate of the universe is so precise taht a 1/10 millionth change in velocity in either direction would not allow life to form. An increase in such a minute amount and the density of the gases would not be sufficient to allow stars to form. A decrease in taht amount of speed and the universe would collapse back on itlself too quickly and not permit the formation of life.

What if there are an infinite number of universes containing every possible velocity (and all other variables, for that matter)? Our universe appears perfect for the formation of us, but we can not see the other universes by virtue of the fact that species capable of understanding all of this can only arise in the universes which have the correct laws of physics. The idea that our environment must be designed because it fits us ignores the fact that we would not be here to observe it if it did not.

reply to post by Grumble


Hasnt god said that there are worlds beyond us. he has stated that there are other universes out there, these are called the heavens...in which every possibility is possible. Angels travel instantaneous across the universe via wormholes...

And of course we cannot see the other universes, but God has stated that they exist/

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reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


I talked to God yesterday, and he didn't say anything about that.

He did say, however, that the debaptising atheists earned passes to heaven for being so God damned funny. Won't they be surprised!

Originally posted by Grumble
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

I talked to God yesterday, and he didn't say anything about that.

He did say, however, that the debaptising atheists earned passes to heaven for being so God damned funny. Won't they be surprised!

If i slapped you, could you feel the pain? Can you prove the pain to every single human on earth unequivocally without a doubt?

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL


If you could do CT scans on patients being slapped, you could verify through the observed firings of neuron pathways that they were indeed feeling pain. You would have proof.

Originally posted by Grumble
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

If you could do CT scans on patients being slapped, you could verify through the observed firings of neuron pathways that they were indeed feeling pain. You would have proof.

Actually CT scans only detects different density materials and does not detect neural electrical activity.

Also a neuron firing doesn't mean that a person is feeling pain, they may be thinking, feeling pressure, feeling temperature change, feeling proprioception.

Also what one person feels as pain, another may not.

Also how does one person know pain if theyve never felt it before? how do you describe pain to a person who hasnt felt it.

Therefore what is true for you, you cant prove to the entire mankind even though, you know it to be 100% true

[edit on 23-7-2010 by THE_PROFESSIONAL]

I have no feeling one way or the other about this.

reply to post by GLOCKENSPIEL


lol-thanks that really clears that up I was beginning to worry about you

I agree when it comes to religion to me children should choose. I was given a choice. I quite like being able to be free about which religion to choose there are so many. You can pass culture and beliefs on to your kids without forcing them into a religion. like you can take certain religious beliefs and incorporate them into raising your children but spirituality is something one should choose not be forced into.

Also in light of the funniness that this article is.. Where can I get the atheist hair drier? I'd really like to go with an atheist hair style today. Do they sell atheist shampoo and conditioner? Atheist soap on a rope!!! The atheists could make a fortune on cleansing products.

Xiamara

I see nothing wrong with this. It's a SYMBOLIC gesture that points to a problem in this country. Children are being indoctrinated before they are intelligent enough to think rationally. Their minds are very open at that time, and if they repeat the same hogwash for years until they're grown up, it's VERY hard for them to come back to logic and rationality.





THOSE PEOPLE CAN VOTE!!! In my opinion, you should pass a minimum intelligence test before someone lets you vote. I mean seriously, someone claiming Harry Potter is "an enemy of god" shouldn't be allowed to vote...that's like allowing a 6 year old to vote.

I mean, for crying out loud, we still have people who believe in the whole 7-day creationism story...even if evolution is a SCIENTIFIC FACT.

It's about time more people come "out of the closet"...

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reply to post by Xtrozero

So you disagree with any culture, opinions, mentorship, and customs that parents may want to pass on to their kids.

No, but I am against parents breeding more cult members

Originally posted by Pockets


No, but I am against parents breeding more cult members

I agree 100%, but I don't see religion as a cult even though cults can be religious based. They can also be scientific based too and as bad or worst as anything else out there...hehe

reply to post by Xtrozero

So you disagree with any culture, opinions, mentorship, and customs that parents may want to pass on to their kids. Do you have kids of your own? I'm thinking not, and if you do, are you raising them in some plan generic malleable clay like existence so that they can mold themselves as they see fit?

I'm not sure what one would call this, but it wouldn't be called parenthood. ..

I disagree. I don't believe that a parents job is to indoctrinate their children but to help them learn how to learn. Teach them facts, encourage them to study all belief systems, not just yours. You can't help but pass on your morals/values and hopefully those will be good ones.

As atheists, my wife and I raised our daughters without expressing any disdain for others and their beliefs. They were taught in school about religions and as adults, they are well adjusted people able to interact well with people of diverse ethnicity, race and religion.

I, on the other hand, was indoctrinated in the Catholic religion from my earliest years and it took a number of years to fully escape that programming. As it was in the USA, I also had to overcome the prevalent prejudice against blacks and other non-whites. I'm just lucky that my parents weren't baptists or one of the other extreme denominations because the fight to enlightenment would have been harder or maybe even impossible.